Re: [dwm] ii best practices

2008-04-02 Thread pancake
i think scrollz already have this. Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 03:24:44PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: I want to start using ii for irc. What discouraged me from doing so was a proper input method. Currently I know 2 methods to effectively

Re: [dwm] ii best practices

2008-04-02 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think scrollz already have this. But scrollz is an ununix irc client. Regards Matthias-Christian

Re: [dwm] ii best practices

2008-04-02 Thread pancake
pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think scrollz already have this. But scrollz is an ununix irc client. but scrollz is composed by two programs - a terminal control with the described functionality - an irc client that uses the terminal control tool imho the terminal control is what you

Re: [dwm] ntile layout for dwm hg tip

2008-04-02 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Nibble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, And I can say that for xinerama we will probably need to adapt it to support also vertical tiling. Using horitzontal it's mostly a waste of space on big screens. Yes, I think you are right. Furthermore, horizontal tiling (Anselm's notation)

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Sander van Dijk
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread hiro
it would be hilariously great. i've tried it, but never saw the point of this not-so-revolutionary concept.

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 4/2/08, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple \o/ tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor for the column

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:23:39PM +0200, Sander van Dijk wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor for the column layout? I haven't

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Marc Andre Tanner
Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor for the column layout? Could we please stop rewriting

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread hiro
I am still eager to sea a really acme-like *interface* additionally to only it's layout. But i assume this is not your ambition.

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Sander van Dijk
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:23:39PM +0200, Sander van Dijk wrote: If you're serious though, what exactly do you mean? wmii-3/acme like (as in: dynamic amount of columns, and three modes per column)? Exactly. Hm,

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:53:10PM +0200, Sander van Dijk wrote: On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:23:39PM +0200, Sander van Dijk wrote: If you're serious though, what exactly do you mean? wmii-3/acme like (as in: dynamic

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 03:37:49PM +0200, Marc Andre Tanner wrote: Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout

[dwm] setmfact improvements

2008-04-02 Thread Peter Hartlich
Hi, Attached are two small patches to setmfact. The first one removes some redundancy, saving 5 LOC; the second one reintroduces the MFACT define that was present (as MWFACT) before, so that you can do setmfact(NULL) to restore your initial master factor. Taken together, they add 1 LOC.

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have exactly in mind from a user perspective: Initially there is 1 column, a new client is inserted below the currently selected window in the column, similiar to the stack in tiled layout. Each window can be moved left- or rightwards

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Fabio Scotoni
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor for the column layout? I would

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 04:37:47PM +0200, Matthias Kirschner wrote: * Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-02 16:11:54 +0200]: Initially there is 1 column, a new client is inserted below the currently selected window in the column, similiar to the stack in tiled layout. If I open

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 04:27:34PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have exactly in mind from a user perspective: Initially there is 1 column, a new client is inserted below the

[dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Michael
Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time Please, don't do it, personaly, I use this feature very much. Don't you think that eliminating it will approach dwm to workspace model?

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Ross Mohn
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:59:24PM +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor for the

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Marc Andre Tanner dixit (2008-04-02, 15:37): Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time and celebrating the revival of the column layout of wmii again in dwm 5.0? What about getting rid of all the tiled layout flavors in favor for the

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread John Grahor
I never display multiple tags at a time. The idea, though very elegant, doesn't work for me. I usually work by adding terminals, etc to a single tag until there are too many to be useful then throw one or more over to another tag and keep going. For me a column layout would be appealing,

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 07:43:06PM +0400, Michael wrote: Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags at a time Please, don't do it, personaly, I use this feature very much. Don't you think that eliminating it will approach dwm to workspace

Re: [dwm] dwm Digest, Vol 22, Issue 5

2008-04-02 Thread John Grahor
I really like this, though I seem to be in a minority. Also looks like you need way more state to implement this. I wonder, Anselm, if you looked at my optimal tile patch. It adds more rows and columns as needed, is fairly simple, and doesn't require more state. On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, [EMAIL

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Michael
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 06:04:26PM +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: Well if it is not possible to view several tags at a time, two tagall/dropall functions could be considered to apply/drop a certain tag to all visible clients for convenience reasons. But then after switching to another tag, I

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Richard Pöttler
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:59:24PM +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags I never used it, but it is more because most of the time I don't think about it, and simply apply the same tag to two windows and switch to this one, instead of

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 08:27:11PM +0400, Michael wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 06:04:26PM +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: Well if it is not possible to view several tags at a time, two tagall/dropall functions could be considered to apply/drop a certain tag to all visible clients for

[dwm] simplify grabbuttons()

2008-04-02 Thread Johannes Hofmann
Hello, below is a patch that shortens grabbuttons() a bit. Cheers, Johannes PS: I really appreciate the attitude to reconsider everything from time to time - even though I'm quite satisfied with current dwm. diff --git a/dwm.c b/dwm.c --- a/dwm.c +++ b/dwm.c @@ -805,36 +805,18 @@ void

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:59:24PM +0200, Anselm R. Garbe wrote: What about getting rid of supporting the selection of multiple tags In my estimation, without multiple tagging, there's no reason to use dwm -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread voltaic
I agree. For me, the major distinction between DWM and the other window managers has been the use of tags instead of workspaces. I also don't like the idea of moving windows around columns. I think the zoom function is a sufficient mode of manipulating windows (between master/slave areas). I feel

Re: [dwm] simplify grabbuttons()

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 07:01:11PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: below is a patch that shortens grabbuttons() a bit. Of course this will make it to hg tip ;) Kind regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361

[dwm] there won't be a radical change

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 12:15:21PM -0400, John Grahor wrote: I really like this, though I seem to be in a minority. Also looks like you need way more state to implement this. I wonder, Anselm, if you looked at my optimal tile patch. It adds more rows and columns as needed, is fairly

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread andrew
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have exactly in mind from a user perspective: ... snip several command explanations ... So the whole layout concept consists of basically 4 keys with 3 kinds of modifiers. 4x3 = 12 (TWELVE!) combos to

Re: [dwm] A rather radical thought

2008-04-02 Thread Damjan Vrencur
On Wednesday 02 of April 2008 19:47:30 voltaic wrote: I agree. For me, the major distinction between DWM and the other window managers has been the use of tags instead of workspaces. I also don't like the idea of moving windows around columns. I think the zoom function is a sufficient mode of

[dwm] again, don't expect the change I discussed about happen

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
See subject, this is related to the column layout discussion ;) -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361

Re: [dwm] experimental patch: escher

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 11:42:57AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: More refactoring: - remove boilerplate code by creating a macro to generate layout functions - replace tileh/tilev with the version that do nmaster It's interesting now that removing nmaster support doesn't really buy that

Re: [dwm] setmfact improvements

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 04:23:40PM +0200, Peter Hartlich wrote: Attached are two small patches to setmfact. The first one removes some redundancy, saving 5 LOC; the second one reintroduces the MFACT define that was present (as MWFACT) before, so that you can do setmfact(NULL) to restore your

[dwm] final testing call for dwm-4.9

2008-04-02 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
Hi there, I kindly ask you to give hg tip a try. If there are no bugs, it will be dwm-4.9 tomorrow evening. Kind regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361

Re: [dwm] ntile layout for dwm hg tip

2008-04-02 Thread Nibble
You could simplify the code by introducing to two global variables that indicate whether the master or tiled area is horizontal. So switching to |= would simply set tileh = True and leave masterh unchanged and switchting to -|= would set tileh = True and masterh = True. So you could simple