Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread Jack Woehr

hiro wrote:

Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously
absorbed the concept of "Simplicity as a Virtue".



I don't understand a word, sorry.
And yeah, I understand what simplicity is about..

I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't. I mean there is a world
of open source operating system users out there who think
the bloat of Linux is the normal state of affairs. I probably should
have used the English impersonal "if one has not previously ..." etc.
instead of the American generic "if you have not ...".

On the Internet no solipsism goes unpunished! :)

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Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread hiro
> Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously
> absorbed the concept of "Simplicity as a Virtue".

I don't understand a word, sorry.
And yeah, I understand what simplicity is about...



Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread Jack Woehr

hiro wrote:

Dwm is arranging windows dynamically, listens to multiple X events
and, as far as I know, provides a status bar.
It's doing quite some stuff in my view...
  

Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously
absorbed the concept of "Simplicity as a Virtue".

--
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http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get
http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.




Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread hiro
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Christian Garbs  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:42:32PM +0100, hiro wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Yoshi Rokuko  
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:37:58AM +0100, hiro wrote:
>
>> >> Still, dwm somehow seems very much not unix alike for me.
>
>> > what do you mean, or what would be a more nix'isch WM?
>
>> Could be, that X doesn't allow it to be more unixy, and like I said,
>> if you don't want to change the configuration, you could say dwm is
>> just a simple window manager.
>
>> But as the task for most people on this list is configuring it like
>> crazy, I don't think one should consider dwm unixy in this use case,
>> it's not flexible enough.
>
> In my understanding, the unix way is "do just one thing and do it
> good".  A single program does not need to be flexible, but instead you
> are flexible by stacking simple programs together as you like (shell
> scripts, pipes etc.)
>

I agree and I was specifically thinking about the possibility of
splitting dwm's functionality into multiple single programs.
A simple library for hiding X could be an other great way...

And right, flexibility is rather just an effect of well behaving,
simple apps used together.

> dwm arranges the windows on the screen, nothing more, nothing less.
> No program icons, no desktop environment, no notification services.

Dwm is arranging windows dynamically, listens to multiple X events
and, as far as I know, provides a status bar.
It's doing quite some stuff in my view...



Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread Christian Garbs
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:42:32PM +0100, hiro wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Yoshi Rokuko  
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:37:58AM +0100, hiro wrote:

> >> Still, dwm somehow seems very much not unix alike for me.

> > what do you mean, or what would be a more nix'isch WM?

> Could be, that X doesn't allow it to be more unixy, and like I said,
> if you don't want to change the configuration, you could say dwm is
> just a simple window manager.
 
> But as the task for most people on this list is configuring it like
> crazy, I don't think one should consider dwm unixy in this use case,
> it's not flexible enough.

In my understanding, the unix way is "do just one thing and do it
good".  A single program does not need to be flexible, but instead you
are flexible by stacking simple programs together as you like (shell
scripts, pipes etc.)

dwm arranges the windows on the screen, nothing more, nothing less.
No program icons, no desktop environment, no notification services.

Regards
Christian
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