Re: [dwm] [OT] Personal Website and CSS
Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: I would really like to throw away X11. So that you have a universal hardware-implementable rendering language and system (buffer management etc.) and an event layer on top of it. So if you want to browse a hyperlinked document you compile it to the rendering language and run an event manager, which handles things like scrolling, on top of it. So you have a data pipe (model), renderer/compiler (view) and event manager (controller). If you are willing to accept Javascript as your universal rendering language and the web browser as its implementation, GWT though it needs much more engineering over the next year or two is actually pretty good. -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] [OT] Personal Website and CSS
Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: What I really like about it is that rendered documents (which used to be PostScript or PDF) are now the same as ordinary applications except that applications handle input and may modify their window contents. NeWS sort of worked that way, except its virtual machine was, of course, PostScript. NeWS got beat out by XWindows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?
hiro wrote: Dwm is arranging windows dynamically, listens to multiple X events and, as far as I know, provides a status bar. It's doing quite some stuff in my view... Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously absorbed the concept of Simplicity as a Virtue. -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?
hiro wrote: Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously absorbed the concept of Simplicity as a Virtue. I don't understand a word, sorry. And yeah, I understand what simplicity is about.. I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't. I mean there is a world of open source operating system users out there who think the bloat of Linux is the normal state of affairs. I probably should have used the English impersonal if one has not previously ... etc. instead of the American generic if you have not On the Internet no solipsism goes unpunished! :) -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] What happened here?
andrew wrote: Tagmasks? Why are we forcing the user to do this in binary? /I considered re-using stdin as well, but in any case having customization features will lead to more code, esp. more only-once executed code, that's why I don't like either way much... And it doesn't keeps the novices away. / - Anselm Garbe, mailing list, 2006 http://lists.suckless.org/dwm/0607/0023.html -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer
bill lam wrote: I'm happy to report that fm can now display japanese and chinese for locale utf-8. And I'm happy to report that the OpenBSD crew informed me I can include SIGWINCH (which has a bad aroma in OpenBSD due to linked list fu) by adding the switch -D_BSD_SOURCE to the Makefile. Up and running, thanks. Nice work. -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer
Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote: I tried it after vifm but what I really wanted was a very minimal filesystem viewer with vim-like commands, that's why I wrote fm. Cute, from screenshot and description, fm reminds me of FULIST on z/VM. But it doesn't build on OpenBSD: $ gmake CC=gcc ctags fm.c fs.c ui.c cmd.c fm.h gcc -g -Wall -pedantic -ansi $(pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0) -c -o fm.o fm.c fm.c: In function `set_sighandlers': fm.c:60: error: `SIGWINCH' undeclared (first use in this function) fm.c:60: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once fm.c:60: error: for each function it appears in.) fm.c: In function `unset_sighandlers': fm.c:73: error: `SIGWINCH' undeclared (first use in this function) gmake: *** [fm.o] Error 1 which is kind of weird because even if I specifically #include sys/signal.h in which `SIGWINCH' is declared it doesn't find it. Haven't had time yet to dig in deep. -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer
Ian Daniher wrote: What's wrong with midnight commander? It's an oldy but a goody. Using it for at least 15 years (and Norton Commander on MS-DOS before that). I use mc every day. It's my most important file tool. I even keep older (and simpler) revs of MC around so I can compile it on weird operating systems. Midnight Commander forever!! -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer
markus schnalke wrote: [2008-12-27 11:48] Ian Daniher it.dani...@gmail.com What's wrong with midnight commander? It's an oldy but a goody. This too, but worst is its usability. The keystrokes are a real mess. Unless you know them all from doing them over and over again :) My IDE for Java web app development is: OpenBSD:dwm:mxt:mc:jedit Of course I've written a lot of scripts and mc F2 menu entries and even an m4 mode for jedit. In the mainframe world, there's a development env / filer called ISPF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISPF. It's old-style terminal oriented, so it's all nested number menus. You can nest down easy in one entry, e.g., entering 1.7.2.5.6 gets you to feature 6 of feature 5 of feature 2, etc ... All the ISPF hacks know the whole tree, and can tell you, Oh, you want to do so-and-so? That's just 2.9.4.5 and then when you're done, a 1.4.4.4.1 ... So I get where 'fm' is coming from, because I've been there! PS The 'suckless' philosophy is my favorite programmer's riff in the last ten years. Keep up the good work. Living in dwm on OpenBSD, programming is fun again. -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer
Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote: At this moment I don't have OpenBSD installed to try it. But I removed the -ansi and -pedantic flags from the published code because they are too strict for the casual user and they can cause too much trouble. CFLAGS = -O2 -Wall $$(pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0) LDFLAGS = -s -lncurses $$(pkg-config --libs glib-2.0) Same problem even with. This is something easy, I'm sure. I just haven't put more than a few minutes into it yet. When I get some time I'll look into it. -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards.
[dwm] I like the new monocole layout
Just started using dwm again. I like the new monocole layout. Thanks. -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
[dwm] I blogged about dwm
I blogged about dwm -- http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_myblogshow=dwm.htmlItemid=29 -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead
