Re: [dwm] [OT] Personal Website and CSS

2009-02-19 Thread Jack Woehr

Matthias-Christian Ott wrote:

I would really like to throw away X11. So that you have a universal
hardware-implementable rendering language and system (buffer management
etc.) and an event layer on top of it. So if you want to browse a
hyperlinked document you compile it to the rendering language and run
an event manager, which handles things like scrolling, on top of it. So
you have a data pipe (model), renderer/compiler (view) and event manager
(controller).
  
If you  are willing to accept Javascript as your universal rendering 
language

and the web browser as its implementation, GWT though it needs much more
engineering over the next year or two is actually pretty good.

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Re: [dwm] [OT] Personal Website and CSS

2009-02-19 Thread Jack Woehr

Matthias-Christian Ott wrote:

What I really like about it is that rendered documents (which used to
be PostScript or PDF) are now the same as ordinary applications except
that applications handle input and may modify their window contents.
  

NeWS sort of worked that way, except its virtual machine was,
of course, PostScript. NeWS got beat out by XWindows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS

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Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread Jack Woehr

hiro wrote:

Dwm is arranging windows dynamically, listens to multiple X events
and, as far as I know, provides a status bar.
It's doing quite some stuff in my view...
  

Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously
absorbed the concept of Simplicity as a Virtue.

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Re: [dwm] Re: What happened here?

2009-01-25 Thread Jack Woehr

hiro wrote:

Dwm is also philosophically transformational if you've not previously
absorbed the concept of Simplicity as a Virtue.



I don't understand a word, sorry.
And yeah, I understand what simplicity is about..

I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't. I mean there is a world
of open source operating system users out there who think
the bloat of Linux is the normal state of affairs. I probably should
have used the English impersonal if one has not previously ... etc.
instead of the American generic if you have not 

On the Internet no solipsism goes unpunished! :)

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Re: [dwm] What happened here?

2009-01-19 Thread Jack Woehr

andrew wrote:

Tagmasks? Why are we forcing the user to do this in binary?
  

/I considered re-using stdin as well, but in any case having
customization features will lead to more code, esp. more
only-once executed code, that's why I don't like either way
much... And it doesn't keeps the novices away. /
- Anselm Garbe, mailing list, 2006 
http://lists.suckless.org/dwm/0607/0023.html


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Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer

2008-12-29 Thread Jack Woehr

bill lam wrote:
I'm happy to report that fm can now display japanese and chinese for 
locale utf-8.
And I'm happy to report that the OpenBSD crew informed me I can include 
SIGWINCH
(which has a bad aroma in OpenBSD due to linked list fu) by adding the 
switch

-D_BSD_SOURCE to the Makefile. Up and running, thanks. Nice work.

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Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer

2008-12-27 Thread Jack Woehr

Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote:

I tried it after vifm but what I really wanted was a very minimal
filesystem viewer with vim-like commands, that's why I wrote fm.
  


Cute, from screenshot and description, fm reminds me of FULIST on z/VM.

But it doesn't build on OpenBSD:

   $ gmake CC=gcc
   ctags fm.c fs.c ui.c cmd.c fm.h
   gcc -g -Wall -pedantic -ansi $(pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0)   -c -o
   fm.o fm.c
   fm.c: In function `set_sighandlers':
   fm.c:60: error: `SIGWINCH' undeclared (first use in this function)
   fm.c:60: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
   fm.c:60: error: for each function it appears in.)
   fm.c: In function `unset_sighandlers':
   fm.c:73: error: `SIGWINCH' undeclared (first use in this function)
   gmake: *** [fm.o] Error 1

which is kind of weird because even if I specifically #include 
sys/signal.h

in which `SIGWINCH' is declared it doesn't find it. Haven't had time yet
to dig in deep.

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Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer

2008-12-27 Thread Jack Woehr

Ian Daniher wrote:
What's wrong with midnight commander? It's an oldy but a goody. 


Using it for at least 15 years (and Norton Commander on MS-DOS before
that). I use mc every day. It's my most important file tool. I even keep 
older
(and simpler) revs of MC around so I can compile it on weird  operating 
systems.


Midnight Commander forever!!

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Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer

2008-12-27 Thread Jack Woehr

markus schnalke wrote:

[2008-12-27 11:48] Ian Daniher it.dani...@gmail.com
  
What's wrong with midnight commander? It's an oldy but a goody. 



This too, but worst is its usability. The keystrokes are a real mess.
  

Unless you know them all from doing them over and over again :)

My IDE for Java web app development is:

   OpenBSD:dwm:mxt:mc:jedit

Of course I've written a lot of scripts and mc F2 menu entries
and even an m4 mode for jedit.

In the mainframe world, there's a development env / filer called
ISPF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISPF. It's old-style terminal 
oriented, so it's all nested number

menus. You can nest down easy in one entry, e.g., entering
1.7.2.5.6 gets you to feature 6 of feature 5 of feature 2, etc ...

All the ISPF hacks know the whole tree, and can tell you,
Oh, you want to do so-and-so? That's just 2.9.4.5 and then when
you're done, a 1.4.4.4.1 ...

So I get where 'fm' is coming from, because I've been there!

PS The 'suckless' philosophy is my favorite programmer's riff
in the last ten years. Keep up the good work. Living in dwm
on OpenBSD, programming is fun again.

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Re: [dwm] [Offtopic] minimalistic filesystem ncurses viewer

2008-12-27 Thread Jack Woehr

Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote:

At this moment I don't have OpenBSD installed to try it. But I removed
the -ansi and -pedantic flags from the published code because they are
too strict for the casual user and they can cause too much trouble.

CFLAGS = -O2 -Wall $$(pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0)
LDFLAGS = -s -lncurses $$(pkg-config --libs glib-2.0)

Same problem even with. This is something easy, I'm sure. I just haven't
put more than a few minutes into it yet. When I get some time I'll look
into it.

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[dwm] I like the new monocole layout

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Woehr

Just started using dwm again. I like the new monocole layout. Thanks.

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[dwm] I blogged about dwm

2008-10-18 Thread Jack Woehr
I blogged about dwm -- 
http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_myblogshow=dwm.htmlItemid=29


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