On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:02:16AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
2008/7/29 Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
For the meantime the statement has been restored in the original place ;)
Yay!
Regards,
Christian, thus still elitist ;-)
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Hoi community,
the website ( http://www.suckless.org/dwm ) contains the following
words:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Please discuss about removing, or altering that.
The reason is, that I met people who thought, that the
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hoi community,
the website ( http://www.suckless.org/dwm ) contains the following
words:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Please discuss about removing, or altering that.
The reason
Greetings,
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
i wholeheartedly support these words.
Please discuss about removing, or altering that.
The reason is, that I met people who thought, that the dwm-/suckless-
community is arrogant. They
Mate Nagy dixit (2008-07-29, 09:58):
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
i wholeheartedly support these words.
Please discuss about removing, or altering that.
The reason is, that I met people who thought, that the dwm-/suckless-
Hi,
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It wasn't intended as offense, however.
I might restore this statement, if
[2008-07-29 09:44] Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It wasn't intended as
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It
Hello,
We are publishing a software for the masses: we make it available and
have a website for it, a mailing list, a wiki, and a mercurial
repository.
There is nothing elitist about that.
The fact that we have to modify the source to customise the product is
IMHO, you're staggeringly wrong,
Anselm R Garbe dixit (2008-07-29, 09:44):
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It wasn't intended as offense, however.
I might restore this statement, if a new user shows up proposing or
asking for a configuration file format.
How about adding a
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:44:46AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
Hi,
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It
On 7/29/08, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking
stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on purpose 2 years ago,
though. It wasn't intended
2008/7/29 Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 7/29/08, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking
stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was on
2008/7/29 Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:44:46AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
Hi,
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It
For the meantime the statement has been restored in the original place ;)
ow yeah ;)
2008/7/29 Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I see how it can be offensive, however there is a message there which
is important to the suckless philosophy/mission.
1.) dwm favours those who can appreciate (or even admire) the nice
code of it and not those who cry when some
[2008-07-29 11:35] Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/29/08, Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/29 markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking
stupid
questions.
Well, I removed this statement, now. It was
* markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080729 14:20]:
Hoi community,
the website ( http://www.suckless.org/dwm ) contains the following
words:
This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid
questions.
Please discuss about removing, or altering that.
The
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:27:24 +0200
markus schnalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[2008-07-29 11:35] Szabolcs Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
I disagree here in global for the simple reason, that you should never
kick people off, because _you_ think it doesnt suite to them!
You can tell them about
From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03) :
elite
1. A term used to describe skilled crackers or
hackers, or their deeds. In the last sense, compare to
elegant.
So, I think we can tell this community is elitist, and dunno why it
should be a
I approve of deliberate elitism, and the dwm/suckless community is
justifiably arrogant because they use better software than other
people.
I see no reason to redact statements just because some whiners think
everything on the internet should be a social-networking hugfest. If
they want a
Kurt H Maier dixit (2008-07-29, 07:36):
I approve of deliberate elitism, and the dwm/suckless community is
justifiably arrogant because they use better software than other
people.
I see no reason to redact statements just because some whiners think
everything on the internet should be a
I believe I need to make some releases very soon, to stop this thread ;)
--Anselm
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To sum up: I really cannot understand what's so cool in being a dick.
And a rather softish one, too.
This may come as a huge shock, but not everyone is motivated by a need
to look cool on the internet.
Being a non-dick
Well this little exchange has made my morning quite entertaining. :)
I would like to propose adding xft support and gnome systray support to dwm.
And also sound effects.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:41, Kurt H Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL
I would like to propose adding xft support and gnome systray support to dwm.
And also sound effects.
Neat idea. Also, someone could write a config editor that patched the
binary (like what Dehacked did to the old DOS DOOM).
M.
[2008-07-29 14:21] Anselm R Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe I need to make some releases very soon, to stop this thread ;)
I'm sorry it became a flamewar, that was not intended :-(
It's sad to read some of the things I read in this thread. It's sad,
but it's how it is.
Seems like the
And now it's all devolving into name calling.
I can't figure out why you typed this except as an attack vector.
Possibly. It could very easily be read that way. However,
I see no reason to redact statements just because some whiners think
everything on the internet should be a
[2008-07-29 10:22] Bill Puschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, and relax about the flamewar. Elitists love that sort of thing.
So, I'm not an elitist!
... but I'll continue using dwm though.
meillo
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I think we should be mindful of the words we use in public places,
being that the wiki or the mailing list.
After living in the UK for more than 10 years, I feel the word
'stupid' to be too strong a word in that context.
And please, let's lower the tone of these posts. Swearing is *not* a
way to
On 2008-07-29, Alexander Polakov wrote:
Who cares? suckless.org cares about code quality, not public relations.
I found out once that more elitist community is *always* more heplful
then polite and friendly one.
--
Alexander Polakov | http://rootshell.be/~polachok/
I agree. Don't ask us
On 7/29/08, Antony Jepson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I say keep the sentence on the dwm homepage. It makes a statement and a
clear one at that.
reading back the thread, the wording could be softer to offend less ppl
s/No novices asking stupid questions/No novices asking silly questions/
Personally I don't really care about the elitist clause; let the software do
the speaking. When I was new to suckless.org I liked what they had to say,
but all in all it was the code that got me hooked.
Sure, some people in the community are dicks at times. When I was new I got
flamed on IRC
First post!
I recommend this for advanced reading http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/
-lee
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Evan Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally I don't really care about the elitist clause; let the software
do the speaking. When I was new to suckless.org I liked what
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:41:09AM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote:
snip
Yes, we are participating in a simple wm project, and the fewer idiots
we have marching onto this mailing list and demanding ridiculous
feature-creep and handholding, the longer it will *remain* a simple wm
project. dwm's
It was a funny line to read when i first visited suckless.org.
Based on the amount of information on the whole site, i would say that
the aforementioned sentences were merely a joke at the time of their
writing.
As for all the previous posts, and not a specific one in particular,
just one
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