Re: [dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-18 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:10:13PM +0200, Sander van Dijk wrote:
> On 6/17/07, Philipp Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >If i use dwms MOD+shift+Q i dont really exit dwm... just a blank
> >screen. but i dont return to gdm.
> 
> Yes, you do really exit dwm.
> That doesn't necessarily mean that your X session is over though (if
> it was, you would go back to gdm). Apparently something (not dwm) is
> keeping your session from finishing, you just need to figure out what.

I assume Philipp feeds dwm with input using some shell-based
loop in .xsession. If so, consider the archives for examples how
to change the feed constructs that they exit properly if dwm
exits. The example given in README does not take care of such
cornercases for simplicity reasons. But other fifo-based ones
do.

Regards,
-- 
 Anselm R. Garbe >< http://www.suckless.org/ >< GPG key: 0D73F361



Re: [dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-17 Thread Sander van Dijk

On 6/17/07, Philipp Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If i use dwms MOD+shift+Q i dont really exit dwm... just a blank
screen. but i dont return to gdm.


Yes, you do really exit dwm.
That doesn't necessarily mean that your X session is over though (if
it was, you would go back to gdm). Apparently something (not dwm) is
keeping your session from finishing, you just need to figure out what.

Greetings, Sander.


Re: [dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-17 Thread James Turner
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:39:18PM +0200, Philipp K??hler wrote:
> If i use dwms MOD+shift+Q i dont really exit dwm... just a blank
> screen. but i dont return to gdm.
> 
> right now i use MOD+shift+Q to quit dwm and then i use Ctrl-Alt-BS to
> restart X and get into gdm. is there a easier/better method?!
> 
> thx a lot
> 
> On 6/12/07, Christian Garbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:14:14AM +0800, anhnmncb wrote:
> >
> >> what's the difference between dwm's quit using Alt-Shift-Q by
> >> default and Xorg's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS, which one is better for
> >> quit?
> >
> >The former quits the dwm process while the latter kills the whole X
> >server.  Depending on your setup, these can be two very different
> >things.
> >
> >For example, when you are modifing dwm, you could run it in an endless
> >loop, so that you can just do a compile, kill dwm and the freshly
> >recompiled dwm will restart _without_ killing your whole X session.
> >(Personally, I prefer the dwm restart patch for this situation.)
> >
> >If you run dwm from your .Xsession and quitting dwm also ends your X
> >session, then both variants are nearly identical.  Although a "proper"
> >shutdown of your X session might be favored to just killing the X
> >server.
> >
> >Redards,
> >Christian
> >--
> >Christian.Garbs.http://www.cgarbs.de
> >
> >Wird "Neuling" jetzt eigentlich standartm??ssig "Newbee" geschrieben?

You can try my solution here:
http://www.suckless.org/pipermail/dwm/2007-June/002768.html.  I dont use
a display manager like gdm, but my xsession does shutdown cleanly as it
should when I a-shift-q to quit dwm.

-- 
James Turner
BSD Group Consulting
http://www.bsdgroup.org



Re: [dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-17 Thread Philipp Köhler

If i use dwms MOD+shift+Q i dont really exit dwm... just a blank
screen. but i dont return to gdm.

right now i use MOD+shift+Q to quit dwm and then i use Ctrl-Alt-BS to
restart X and get into gdm. is there a easier/better method?!

thx a lot

On 6/12/07, Christian Garbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:14:14AM +0800, anhnmncb wrote:

> what's the difference between dwm's quit using Alt-Shift-Q by
> default and Xorg's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS, which one is better for
> quit?

The former quits the dwm process while the latter kills the whole X
server.  Depending on your setup, these can be two very different
things.

For example, when you are modifing dwm, you could run it in an endless
loop, so that you can just do a compile, kill dwm and the freshly
recompiled dwm will restart _without_ killing your whole X session.
(Personally, I prefer the dwm restart patch for this situation.)

If you run dwm from your .Xsession and quitting dwm also ends your X
session, then both variants are nearly identical.  Although a "proper"
shutdown of your X session might be favored to just killing the X
server.

Redards,
Christian
--
Christian.Garbs.http://www.cgarbs.de

Wird "Neuling" jetzt eigentlich standartmässig "Newbee" geschrieben?





Re: [dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Garbs
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:14:14AM +0800, anhnmncb wrote:

> what's the difference between dwm's quit using Alt-Shift-Q by
> default and Xorg's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS, which one is better for
> quit?

The former quits the dwm process while the latter kills the whole X
server.  Depending on your setup, these can be two very different
things.

For example, when you are modifing dwm, you could run it in an endless
loop, so that you can just do a compile, kill dwm and the freshly
recompiled dwm will restart _without_ killing your whole X session.
(Personally, I prefer the dwm restart patch for this situation.)

If you run dwm from your .Xsession and quitting dwm also ends your X
session, then both variants are nearly identical.  Although a "proper"
shutdown of your X session might be favored to just killing the X
server.

Redards,
Christian
-- 
Christian.Garbs.http://www.cgarbs.de

Wird "Neuling" jetzt eigentlich standartmässig "Newbee" geschrieben?




Re: [dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-10 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
anhnmncb:
> Hello, list!
>   what's the difference between dwm's quit using Alt-Shift-Q by
> default and Xorg's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS, which one is better

Depending on your .xinitrc , and on dwm, mod-shift-q should give it a
chance to clean up some resources and processes properly.  dwm's exit
strategy would be preferred, I think.

> for quit? And how to set dwm's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS?
>   I know how to disable Xorg's key-binding, it is an option in
> xorg.conf.

-- Don



[dwm] about dwm's quit and Xorg's quit

2007-06-10 Thread anhnmncb
Hello, list!
  what's the difference between dwm's quit using Alt-Shift-Q by
default and Xorg's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS, which one is better
for quit? And how to set dwm's quit using Ctrl-Alt-BS?
  I know how to disable Xorg's key-binding, it is an option in
xorg.conf.

Thanks for any hints.