Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-03-03 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 10:47:29AM +0100, Nicolas Martyanoff wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:39 +0100
 Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I
  encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from
  time to time, and to report bugs.
  
  The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different
  views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so
  I'm aware of this already.
  
  http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png
  
  Kind regards,
 
 I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed.
 The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really
 ergonomic.
 
 A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more
 applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf
 research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is
 really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor,
 doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm
 old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok
 though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen,
 for each couple of application.
 
 The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually
 toggle between the screens.
 
 Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the
 whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by
 enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not
 possible anymore.
 
 I really hope this is gonna change :(
 

Well, in my opinion you use tagging in a different way than me.
I mainly use unrelated programs on different views, so the
initial idea as presented in hg tip atm fits very well.

Also, I regularly view more than a single tag on a specific
screen, so you might consider using different tags for the same
application (e.g. having the pdf viewer in a 'doc' tag, and the
editor in an 'ed' tag) - with both tags remaining to different
views.

Kind regards,
-- 
 Anselm R. Garbe  http://www.suckless.org/  GPG key: 0D73F361



Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-03-01 Thread Nicolas Martyanoff
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:39 +0100
Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I
 encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from
 time to time, and to report bugs.
 
 The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different
 views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so
 I'm aware of this already.
 
 http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png
 
 Kind regards,

I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed.
The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really
ergonomic.

A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more
applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf
research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is
really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor,
doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm
old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok
though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen,
for each couple of application.

The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually
toggle between the screens.

Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the
whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by
enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not
possible anymore.

I really hope this is gonna change :(

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Martyanoff
   http://codemore.org
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-03-01 Thread hiro
On 3/1/08, Nicolas Martyanoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:39 +0100

 Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I
   encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from
   time to time, and to report bugs.
  
   The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different
   views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so
   I'm aware of this already.
  
   http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png
  
   Kind regards,


 I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed.
  The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really
  ergonomic.

  A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more
  applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf
  research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is
  really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor,
  doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm
  old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok
  though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen,
  for each couple of application.

  The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually
  toggle between the screens.

  Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the
  whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by
  enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not
  possible anymore.

  I really hope this is gonna change :(

  Regards,


  --
  Nicolas Martyanoff
http://codemore.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Try xmonad, it's usable for the things i'm doing

-- 
hiro



Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-03-01 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 3/1/08, Nicolas Martyanoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen,
 for each couple of application.

not true

you can bind multiple commands for the same key

mod-2:  setlayout(doc)
mod-2:  togglescreen()
mod-2:  setlayout(doc2)
mod-2:  togglescreen()

oslt



Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-03-01 Thread Nicolas Martyanoff
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:33:03 -0500
hiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed.
   The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really
   ergonomic.
 
   A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more
   applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a
  pdf research paper. With the new system, navigating between the
  tags is really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows
  (editor, doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was
  restaured. With dwm old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2
  foreach screen which was ok though less practical. Now I have to
  remember two tag, on per screen, for each couple of application.
 
   The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually
   toggle between the screens.
 
   Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the
   whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode,
  the by enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful),
  it's not possible anymore.
 
   I really hope this is gonna change :(
 
   Regards,
 
 Try xmonad, it's usable for the things i'm doing

I personnally have nothing against xmonad, but I have years of
experience in C programming, none in haskell, and I like to be able to
tweak my wm; I think I'm gonna write my own wm :/


-- 
Nicolas Martyanoff
   http://codemore.org
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-02-29 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 06:32:32AM -0500, hiro wrote:
 doesn't compile, see attachment.

Well make sure to note that config.def.h has changed somewhat.

Kind regards,
-- 
 Anselm R. Garbe  http://www.suckless.org/  GPG key: 0D73F361



Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful

2008-02-29 Thread hiro
doesn't compile, see attachment.
On 2/28/08, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I
  encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from
  time to time, and to report bugs.

  The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different
  views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so
  I'm aware of this already.

  http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png

  Kind regards,

 --
   Anselm R. Garbe  http://www.suckless.org/  GPG key: 0D73F361




-- 
hiro


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