Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 10:47:29AM +0100, Nicolas Martyanoff wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:39 +0100 Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from time to time, and to report bugs. The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so I'm aware of this already. http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png Kind regards, I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed. The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really ergonomic. A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor, doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen, for each couple of application. The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually toggle between the screens. Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not possible anymore. I really hope this is gonna change :( Well, in my opinion you use tagging in a different way than me. I mainly use unrelated programs on different views, so the initial idea as presented in hg tip atm fits very well. Also, I regularly view more than a single tag on a specific screen, so you might consider using different tags for the same application (e.g. having the pdf viewer in a 'doc' tag, and the editor in an 'ed' tag) - with both tags remaining to different views. Kind regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361
Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:39 +0100 Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from time to time, and to report bugs. The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so I'm aware of this already. http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png Kind regards, I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed. The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really ergonomic. A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor, doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen, for each couple of application. The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually toggle between the screens. Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not possible anymore. I really hope this is gonna change :( Regards, -- Nicolas Martyanoff http://codemore.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
On 3/1/08, Nicolas Martyanoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:39 +0100 Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from time to time, and to report bugs. The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so I'm aware of this already. http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png Kind regards, I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed. The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really ergonomic. A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor, doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen, for each couple of application. The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually toggle between the screens. Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not possible anymore. I really hope this is gonna change :( Regards, -- Nicolas Martyanoff http://codemore.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try xmonad, it's usable for the things i'm doing -- hiro
Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
On 3/1/08, Nicolas Martyanoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen, for each couple of application. not true you can bind multiple commands for the same key mod-2: setlayout(doc) mod-2: togglescreen() mod-2: setlayout(doc2) mod-2: togglescreen() oslt
Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:33:03 -0500 hiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the last hg version, and I am a bit disappointed. The idea to divide up the tags between the screens isn't really ergonomic. A dual (or more) screen, is particulary useful to have two or more applications on a single view, for example a coding window and a pdf research paper. With the new system, navigating between the tags is really tedious; with wmii, I knew that my coding windows (editor, doc...) were on tag '2'. A simple alt-2 and it was restaured. With dwm old xinerama system, I had to press alt-2 foreach screen which was ok though less practical. Now I have to remember two tag, on per screen, for each couple of application. The only advantage of this system is to remove the need to manually toggle between the screens. Furthermore, if it was possible before to use a window covering the whole display (blender for example) by switching to float mode, the by enabling the same tag on each screen (yes it was painful), it's not possible anymore. I really hope this is gonna change :( Regards, Try xmonad, it's usable for the things i'm doing I personnally have nothing against xmonad, but I have years of experience in C programming, none in haskell, and I like to be able to tweak my wm; I think I'm gonna write my own wm :/ -- Nicolas Martyanoff http://codemore.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 06:32:32AM -0500, hiro wrote: doesn't compile, see attachment. Well make sure to note that config.def.h has changed somewhat. Kind regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361
Re: [dwm] xinerama, things get more and more useful
doesn't compile, see attachment. On 2/28/08, Anselm R. Garbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are kind a lot of caveats in current hg tip, but I encourage early adaptors to give it a try and to update from time to time, and to report bugs. The worst caveat atm is that the focus handling among different views (screens) might need mouse assistance in some cases, so I'm aware of this already. http://www.suckless.org/shots/dwm-xinerama-new.png Kind regards, -- Anselm R. Garbe http://www.suckless.org/ GPG key: 0D73F361 -- hiro 2log Description: Binary data