Re: [dwm] [OT] Reputable online computer shops in Germany?

2009-05-10 Thread Preben Randhol
On Sat, 9 May 2009 23:22:38 +0200
Preben Randhol  wrote:


> What I can say is that dwm is a perfect match for the Eee family!

Forgot to mention that the mousepad is really nice in the Eees. I don't
like mousepads normally, but this I can live with if you don't have
space for a mouse. Like on a plane.


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Re: [dwm] [OT] Reputable online computer shops in Germany?

2009-05-10 Thread Preben Randhol
On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:03:47 +0200
Adam F  wrote:

> Its like everyone just gave up on the SSDs for now.  There is no
> way I need more than ~60, and 30 would probably be fine.  

Has to do with price. SSDs are expensive and besides OSes are not
optimized for this medium yet. With a 901 you have 16 or 20 Gb
depending on if you get the Linux version. Then addingin a 32 Gb SD
card should give you 52 Gb. Note, have not tested 32 Gb SD card in the
card reader, but I guess you can find out if it works if you google a
bit.

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Re: [dwm] [OT] Reputable online computer shops in Germany?

2009-05-10 Thread Adam F
>Alternate, K&M Elektronik and notebooksbilliger.de ...

thanks, this was just what i was looking for.

>I am considering buying a netbook in the very near future, too. You might
>share your criteria and the results of your comparison -- I at least would
>be interested in that.

my requirements are quite similar to yours, but with weight, and
battery life being at the top of the list, noise is not as critical.
After reading over the old subnotebook threads on this list and
spending some hours yesterday looking at stuff online I am kind of
underwhelmed by the current selections and prices.  The closest I see
to what I am looking for is probably the 901 eee pc, although after
reading Preben's comment I think I want to go to a shop to compare in
person the keyboard issue. I find it kind of strange the HDD options
seem to jump from 12 to 160 GB with nothing in between.  Its like
everyone just gave up on the SSDs for now.  There is no way I need
more than ~60, and 30 would probably be fine.  It also seems like once
you go to the 10.2" size a lot of the netbooks have almost exactly the
same specs; asus, lenovo, msi, etc, atleast at the ~300 euro price
range, so really one needs to physically compare them, imo. In
summary, there seems to be less possibility than I hoped of getting
exactly what I want. I will probably wait a while before buying
anything. Also this site was mentioned on of the other threads and is
pretty informative: www.umpcportal.com

cheers,
adam.

>



Re: [dwm] [OT] Reputable online computer shops in Germany?

2009-05-09 Thread Preben Randhol
On Sat, 9 May 2009 19:30:12 +0200
[email protected] wrote:

> My requirements are pretty simple in my opinion, but I get the
> impression they seem not to be very common ... Instead current offers
> are bloated with stuff I am only using once per year or not at all.

I have an Asus Eee 1000H and my wife has an Eee 901. Both running Linux
(XP ditched)
 
> - silent (very silent pls) 

901 is silent (well there is a fan you can slightly hear if the machine
get really hot). I'm "allergic" to computer noise, but I don't find the
fan noise from the 1000H problematic. If you are pushing the
computer for a long time so it really gets hot, you can hear the fan
well.

> - light (up to 1.2kg)

1000H is 250 g more, but that should not be a problem. 901 feels almost
too light :-)

> - above 3(.5) hours of battery life (text input)  

I have now 6 hours battery life with the 1000H running dwm on Ubuntu
9.04. My wife has about 5.5-6h running xfce4 Xubuntu 9.04, but this PC
is not power optimized like my 1000H though.
 
> - usable keyboard (best seen so far is the one of HP mini, fell in

The keyboard of 1000H is very good. The 901's is small and needs getting
used to. My fingers are too big for it I think. Try the keyboards in a
shop!

> - 8.9 inch display or bigger

8.9" - 901
10" -1000H

> - as small dimensions as possible   

The 1000H is slightly bigger, but still very small.

> - more than 8 GB internal drive (I think 16 to 32 GB would be perfect.
>   unlike most of them having 100GB+ ...) 

640kb should be enough for everyone? Well it depends on your needs. For
me I wanted more space so I can install all the software I want and
need. On my wifes Eee I have had to remove things in order to stay
within the 4Gb (of the primary SSD) secondary is 12Gb.

I don't find the SSD to be practically any faster. In fact I find the
901 to be more sluggish than the 1000H, but it could be due to the CPU
also. You need to change the scheduler at least to get the 901 more
responsive. At the moment there is no loss going for a HDD IMHO.

For me I would choose the 1000H over the 901 for usability. The 901 is
great too, my wife has written two papers on it without a problem, but
for me the keyboard is a bit troublesome.

What I can say is that dwm is a perfect match for the Eee family!

HTH

Preben


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Preben Randhol
http://wee-free-lore.blogspot.com/



Re: [dwm] [OT] Reputable online computer shops in Germany?

2009-05-09 Thread stanio
Hello, 

* Adam  [2009-05-09 11:50]:
> Hello, I am considering getting an eee pc or something similar, and am
> trying to compare prices.

I am considering buying a netbook in the very near future, too. You might
share your criteria and the results of your comparison -- I at least would
be interested in that. 

My requirements are pretty simple in my opinion, but I get the impression
they seem not to be very common ... Instead current offers are bloated with
stuff I am only using once per year or not at all.

- silent (very silent pls) 
- light (up to 1.2kg)
- above 3(.5) hours of battery life (text input)  
- usable keyboard (best seen so far is the one of HP mini, fell in love
  with it, actually; but lenovo's one is not that bad, too)
- 8.9 inch display or bigger
- as small dimensions as possible   
- more than 8 GB internal drive (I think 16 to 32 GB would be perfect.
  unlike most of them having 100GB+ ...) 

The problem with deciding whether some requirement is satisfied is not that
simple: e.g.  reviews on battery life are based on Win XP or SomeLinux+KDE
or whatever, and if they say 2.5 hours how much does it mean for me with
debian+dwm or without X at all?

If someone has experience with these things, pls share.

> I currently live in germany but the only
> store i have bought from here before is "bora computer" which is ok,
> but I am looking for a few more data points. I am wondering if there
> are some good online shops dwm users in germany can recommend.  For
> laptops and also general things (ram, drives, etc) would be
> helpful...maybe comparable to newegg.com in the u.s. if you are
> familiar. Amazon.de seems more expensive that the .com version for
> some reason. One I found is notebook.de --- are they ok? Any
> recommendations?

I cannot recommend anything, but for more data points you can just type in
any search engine 'preisvergleich eee pc' or 'preisvergleich netbook' or
'preisvergleich computer zubehoer' and examine the top 10-15 search results
for what online shops they offer.

In the past, I used to visit http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/ because I
liked their advanced search and comparison, but now they don't offer
(anymore?) the currently for me most interesting netbooks.

Hope this helps. 

-- 
 cheers
 stanio_



[dwm] [OT] Reputable online computer shops in Germany?

2009-05-09 Thread Adam
Hello, I am considering getting an eee pc or something similar, and am
trying to compare prices. I currently live in germany but the only
store i have bought from here before is "bora computer" which is ok,
but I am looking for a few more data points. I am wondering if there
are some good online shops dwm users in germany can recommend.  For
laptops and also general things (ram, drives, etc) would be
helpful...maybe comparable to newegg.com in the u.s. if you are
familiar. Amazon.de seems more expensive that the .com version for
some reason. One I found is notebook.de --- are they ok? Any
recommendations?

thanks for the help,
-adam.