Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-10 Thread Benjamin Conner
ok.  I didn't think i'd actually need to learn C.  Thanks very much
everyone.

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Nico Golde  wrote:

> Hi,
> * Kurt H Maier  [2009-05-09 19:36]:
> > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Nico Golde  wrote:
> > > * Matthias-Christian Ott  [2009-05-08 21:43]:
> > >> Learn C. Use man.
> > >
> > > The award for the most useless comment in this thread goes
> > > to... you ;)
> >
> > He's going to need to do exactly that if he's going to get anywhere
> > with dwm.  Nothing useless about that advice.
>
> That's simply not true, I know quite some non-C coders who
> happily use dwm. Editing a header file and applying common
> sense to it should work out pretty well, no need to learn C
> unless you want to patch dwm functionality which a lot of
> people don't want or they are using patches by others.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-10 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* Kurt H Maier  [2009-05-09 19:36]:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Nico Golde  wrote:
> > * Matthias-Christian Ott  [2009-05-08 21:43]:
> >> Learn C. Use man.
> >
> > The award for the most useless comment in this thread goes
> > to... you ;)
> 
> He's going to need to do exactly that if he's going to get anywhere
> with dwm.  Nothing useless about that advice.

That's simply not true, I know quite some non-C coders who
happily use dwm. Editing a header file and applying common 
sense to it should work out pretty well, no need to learn C 
unless you want to patch dwm functionality which a lot of 
people don't want or they are using patches by others.

Cheers
Nico
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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-09 Thread Benjamin Conner
I agree with Leandro.  I mean, it seems like it's pretty simple, at least
what I want to do.  Anyway, thanks for the help.

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Leandro Chescotta <
leandro.chesco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i dont think so, i never reaad the man page and i dont know to program in C
> a lot, so i think the only thing he needs are time to spare trying and
> examples to try and figure it out how to do the things he want
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Nico Golde  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > * Matthias-Christian Ott  [2009-05-08 21:43]:
>> >> Learn C. Use man.
>> >
>> > The award for the most useless comment in this thread goes
>> > to... you ;)
>>
>> He's going to need to do exactly that if he's going to get anywhere
>> with dwm.  Nothing useless about that advice.
>>
>> # Kurt H Maier
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-09 Thread Leandro Chescotta
i dont think so, i never reaad the man page and i dont know to program in C
a lot, so i think the only thing he needs are time to spare trying and
examples to try and figure it out how to do the things he want


On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Kurt H Maier  wrote:

> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Nico Golde  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > * Matthias-Christian Ott  [2009-05-08 21:43]:
> >> Learn C. Use man.
> >
> > The award for the most useless comment in this thread goes
> > to... you ;)
>
> He's going to need to do exactly that if he's going to get anywhere
> with dwm.  Nothing useless about that advice.
>
> # Kurt H Maier
>
>


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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-09 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Nico Golde  wrote:
> Hi,
> * Matthias-Christian Ott  [2009-05-08 21:43]:
>> Learn C. Use man.
>
> The award for the most useless comment in this thread goes
> to... you ;)

He's going to need to do exactly that if he's going to get anywhere
with dwm.  Nothing useless about that advice.

# Kurt H Maier



Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-09 Thread Nico Golde
Hi,
* Matthias-Christian Ott  [2009-05-08 21:43]:
> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:14:39PM -0400, Benjamin Conner wrote:
[...] 
> > how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts,
> > and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well
> > :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> > but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it to
> > the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if anyone
> > can help.
> 
> Learn C. Use man.

The award for the most useless comment in this thread goes 
to... you ;)

Cheers
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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Thayer Williams
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Benjamin Conner  wrote:
> Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't know
> how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts,
> and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well
> :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?

I think most of your questions have been answered, but I'll just offer
a couple more suggestions for getting started:

suckless.org -- first place to start, there's a lot of good info here
xbindkeys -- great utility for general purpose keyboard shortcuts
xfontsel -- a utility to get the proper syntax needed for choosing
different fonts (I highly recommend the terminus and dina fonts)
xinitrc -- perfect for loading dwm and any other apps you wanted
started automatically

Google those terms and you'll be up and running in no time.

Cheers



Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Benjamin Conner
leandro:
Thanks.  I will try the xinitrc for autostarting stuff.
Kurt:
I have sued both of them.  WAY too heavy.  I have been using JWM for a
window manager.  But on this comp with a big monitor, I thought I'd try
DWM.  It's light for a slow comp, and it seems very minimal, and I really
like that look and feel.

Niki:
I like DWM.  I have tried WMII and awesome but I like the sort of extreme
ligh ways of DWM.

So... If I have problems, I will come back.  Thanks everyone!

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Leandro Chescotta  wrote:

>  I found wmii to be very easy to use, it was my first tiling wm, but
> awesome is very popular too, but dwm is far more easy that it seems to be at
> first
>
>
>
> *De:* Niki Yoshiuchi [mailto:aplu...@gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* viernes, 08 de mayo de 2009 04:52 p.m.
> *Para:* dwm mail list
> *Asunto:* Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!
>
>
>
> More seriously, perhaps an easier to install/configure tiling window
> manager is in order.  Xmonad, awesome, wmii, etc. etc.
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Benjamin Conner 
> wrote:
> > Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't
> know
> > how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard
> shortcuts,
> > and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it
> well
> > :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> > but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it
> to
> > the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if
> anyone
> > can help.
> >
> > Tommy.
>
> Have you considered using maybe GNOME or KDE?
>
> # Kurt H Maier
>
>
>
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RE: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Leandro Chescotta
I found wmii to be very easy to use, it was my first tiling wm, but awesome is 
very popular too, but dwm is far more easy that it seems to be at first

De: Niki Yoshiuchi [mailto:aplu...@gmail.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 08 de mayo de 2009 04:52 p.m.
Para: dwm mail list
Asunto: Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

More seriously, perhaps an easier to install/configure tiling window manager is 
in order.  Xmonad, awesome, wmii, etc. etc.
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Kurt H Maier 
mailto:karmaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Benjamin Conner 
mailto:tommydabo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't know
> how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts,
> and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well
> :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it to
> the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if anyone
> can help.
>
> Tommy.
Have you considered using maybe GNOME or KDE?

# Kurt H Maier



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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
More seriously, perhaps an easier to install/configure tiling window manager
is in order.  Xmonad, awesome, wmii, etc. etc.

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Kurt H Maier  wrote:

> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Benjamin Conner 
> wrote:
> > Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't
> know
> > how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard
> shortcuts,
> > and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it
> well
> > :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> > but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it
> to
> > the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if
> anyone
> > can help.
> >
> > Tommy.
>
> Have you considered using maybe GNOME or KDE?
>
> # Kurt H Maier
>
>


Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Leonardo Taccari
Hello Benjamin!

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:14:39PM -0400, Benjamin Conner wrote:
> Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't know
> how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts,
> and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well
> :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it to
> the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if anyone
> can help.
It's not very hard.

I'm sure that this page will help you a lot:

 http://dwm.suckless.org/customisation/

but if you don't understand something or you've some issues configuring
dwm please share you're config.h and we'll try to help you.


Enjoy dwm and good luck for the customisation (the hardest thing usually
is to choose the right colors and font)! :-)


Ciao, Leonardo
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Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Benjamin Conner  wrote:
> Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't know
> how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts,
> and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well
> :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it to
> the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if anyone
> can help.
>
> Tommy.

Have you considered using maybe GNOME or KDE?

# Kurt H Maier



Re: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:14:39PM -0400, Benjamin Conner wrote:
> Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't know

Actually it's just one mailing list.

> how to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts,
> and some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well
> :P)  Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff
> but nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it to
> the message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if anyone
> can help.

Learn C. Use man.
 
> Tommy.

Regards,
Matthias-Christian



RE: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

2009-05-08 Thread Leandro Chescotta
I found the best way to autostart applications to be the ~/.xinitc file, an 
example…

…
AUTOSTARTED_APP_1 &
AUTOSTARTED_APP_2 &
Exec YOUR_WM

And for dwm configuration, it is very descriptive, you change your config.h to 
fit your needs, that are, your font, your colors, your keybindings, and a 
couple of options regarding the behavior of the wm, and believe me, the only 
way to understand it, is by experimentation, change some color, and recompile 
it, change something and recompile it, be prepared to break it, and fix it at 
beginning…

Hope it helps you ☺

De: Benjamin Conner [mailto:tommydabo...@gmail.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 08 de mayo de 2009 04:15 p.m.
Para: dwm@suckless.org
Asunto: [dwm] HELP! I don't understand config.h or how dwm works!

Hey, I'm new to the mailing lists.  The subject says it all.  I don't know how 
to setup DWM.  I want some autostart programs, some keyboard shortcuts, and 
some basic stuff so I can use it. (and once I can use it, to use it well :P)  
Can anyone give me some basic help to using DWM?  I found some stuff but 
nothing helps for me.  I can post my config.h too.  I will attach it to the 
message.  Debian Sid. DWM 5.5.  Thanks.  I really appreaciate if anyone can 
help.

Tommy.


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