[DX-CHAT] KH8SI ON 30M

2006-07-30 Thread N4BAA - Jose Castillo
Absoutley ZERO reason to start working JA stations on 30M at 0630 ... They have to know they can work them all day long.AND THEN to QSX the entire 30M band is a bit much...I would like to know who the OP is tonight. Jose - N4BAA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems

[DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
It was frustrating and sad to listen to the KH8SI and 4O3T pileups this weekend (mostly SSB). When the DX station says, The station with 7 in the call, ending in Germany why do unrelated calls from all over the country continue to call? When the DX station comes back to a full callsign, why

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Osten B Magnusson
Jim! from all over the country Not exactly... from all over the world would be more correct. This problem started (or should I say got worse) when the DX-clusters started to show up on Internet. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Charlie, W0YG
Maybe they started there with the advent of clusters but it has been going on for ages over here. Some just seem to want to call all the time regardless. 73, Charlie, W0YG.. - Original Message - From: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Tom Anderson
Jim: I and the other ops in C9 earlier this month and part of June had the same problem, its nothing particular to KH8SI. If I was calling for say USA or by the numbers only, ops in one country especially would keep coming back, no matter what I said. If I asked the offending station if

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread WC7N
I will tell you why Jim.. This morning on 30 meters the op would get a partial call, say WK7 and would sent that back and then come back to a completely different call, like JA1ABC or something like that. People now know that so they just keep calling on top of the other station. It appears

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Dan Zimmerman N3OX
The DX just has to be strict about who gets to get through. The pileup should be held up until WK7 gets to get through, or the DX says the whiskey kilo seven please and is met with silence. Yeah, QSO rate may plummet, but that's just what has to happen to keep the pileup in line. I'm in favor

[DX-CHAT] 4O3T operation

2006-07-30 Thread Linda Sumner
Ok, guys, here's the word straight from the horse's mouth. The operation here in Montenegro at 4O3T is a mix of very experienced ops and really anyone who wants to come down and help get the new country on. This is deliberate on the organizers' part. How are new people going to learn if they

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Barry
Perhaps a little extreme, but I believe the only solution is for the DX peds to start blacklisting the offenders. Post them on the 'net and when they send for their card, send a little note saying sorry. 73, Barry Charlie, W0YG wrote: Maybe they started there with the advent of clusters but

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Dan Zimmerman N3OX
I think long-term blacklisting is too harsh. I don't think that the people who are calling out of turn are necessarily doing it because they're bad people. I think it's because they know it increases, rather than decreases their chance of getting through. I'm OK with short-term blacklisting

[DX-CHAT] Out of turn callers

2006-07-30 Thread Chuck Degard
Come on guys. This is supposed to be hobby. The blacklist thing is nonsense. You open yourselves up to potential lawsuits. Who can say for sure that the "bad" caller is using his real call. So, ifyou want to blacklist someone, just use their call. Just look at the spots and

Re: [DX-CHAT] 4O3T operation

2006-07-30 Thread Kenneth Sobel
I disagree with Linda. When the dx op calls a partial call, then s/he must keep trying until s/he works the station. This is the only way to control the pileup. The pileup needs to understand that continuing to call out of turn will only slow down the qso rate because no other station than the

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Charlie, W0YG
I totally agree with what Dan says BUT it just doesn't work that way. I have made plenty of DXpeditions, none to a place I had to stay in a tent in 100+degree weather or wear a jacket so heavy I could barely move. When you say the CV station only, many guys still call. OK, you say again, the

RE: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
Why do they do it? Two reasons: (1) Some don't know better. They were never shown the ropes, or they've learned by observing, and unfortunately, they've observed bad examples. (2) It works. I've been in too many pileups, over the years, where the DX has said the Alpha Whiskey or the W N 3

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Jerry Keller
If the DX announces he's listening in a range of frequencies, I think in many instances those who can't find the frequency the DX is listening on right now simply announce their callsign over and over, listening briefly in between to see if the DX has heard it. After all, the DX is supposedly

Re: [DX-CHAT] 4O3T operation

2006-07-30 Thread Mac McDaniel
I agree with Ken. The 4O3T operator on 10 meters the other day called N0O, I went back to him right away with my call again. Guess what? In the time that it took me to give my call again, he was giving somebody else a 59. I think they need to be more persistent. As you can imagine the smile

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
A few made a good point, it is up to the DX station to control the pileup. I didn't want to go down that path. But a couple of points to keep in mind: - We (the callers) are the many, they (the DXpedition operators) are the few. They are the ones who have invested the time and money in

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Joe Stepansky
At 12:26 PM 7/30/2006 -0400, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: I'm OK with short-term blacklisting though. A quick KQ3XX come back tomorrow, no contact today is likely fairly effective. As a KQ3 type, I'm going to assume (with good humor) that wasn't directed toward me. HI!! But it's not all (or

Re: [DX-CHAT] KH8SI

2006-07-30 Thread Peter Dougherty
At 05:43 PM 07/30/2006, nick cominos wrote: After reading a variety of opinions I felt compelled to add to the mix. While I have never been on the operating end of a DXpedition, the mere idea of allowing the entire ham population to call indiscriminately is atrocious. I disagree. Opening it

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Peter Dougherty
At 05:56 PM 07/30/2006, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Just because WX9QRO calls overtop of everyone, and in frustration and/or desperation, the DX operator works him to get him out of the way does NOT make it right, and does NOT mean that we have to follow that example. To that end it would be

[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Bencher

2006-07-30 Thread WC7N
Help guys... I have a nice plastic cover over my Bencher with my call engraved in it... Have had it for more years than I would like to admit to... My son, new general class ham,W5LSU, asked where I got it and I have gone through the ads in QST and did a Google and I can't find it. Can you

Re: [DX-CHAT] KH8SI

2006-07-30 Thread WC7N
Ok guys I have already seen some chatter about the next group... Like watch your DX Bulleting Who has the straight poop. Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: harris_ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat List dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re:

[DX-CHAT] Logging Programs

2006-07-30 Thread KA5EJX
Is it ok if I ask about a good logging program on here? If so, I have an old DOS version of HYPERLOG, and I just did a websearch for hyperlog and looks as if they have gone by the wayside. I'd like to find a very good program that has these features: will convert all my Hyperlog data, track IOTA

Re: [DX-CHAT] Out of turn callers

2006-07-30 Thread WC7N
Come on Zack, you are up to your ears in that IL cow stuff. Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Degard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Out of turn callers On Sun, 30 Jul 2006,

[DX-CHAT] KH8SI

2006-07-30 Thread Al Baker
Listening to Paul, work the gang on 17 meters. What a delight to hear his staying with a partial call until the entire call makes it into the log.He stays cool...works simplex till the pile-up builds, then moves the pile up 5 til it gets too busy then 5 to 10. Always the same professional

[DX-CHAT] AD1C 2006 DXCC totals (band condx)

2006-07-30 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
I can easily keep track of DXCC entities worked since the start of the year. My goal this year was to work DXCC on CW, SSB and Digital (mostly RTTY). I've accomplished this, but just barely on RTTY (104 worked). Out of curiosity, I just checked my band totals: 80m: 42 40m: 93 30m: 59 20m: 128

Re: [DX-CHAT] Logging Programs

2006-07-30 Thread Peter Dougherty
At 08:01 PM 07/30/2006, KA5EJX wrote: Is it ok if I ask about a good logging program on here? I will assume there is a website dedicated to comparing various DX logging programs? Hi Rod, What you consider a good logger others would disagree, and it depends on your level of activity and

Re: [DX-CHAT] Logging Programs

2006-07-30 Thread N4BAA - Jose Castillo
FWIW, I have tried DXBase and DX4Win and have thus settled in with DXLAB SUITE by AA6YQ. Can't beat the cost, it does everything the other two big names do, is fully customizable, and has features the others don'tI do agree with Peter, need to assess you desires and go from

Re: [DX-CHAT] Logging Programs

2006-07-30 Thread Gerry
Rod, I use Logger32 fro day to day logging. Love it! www.logger32.net I use N1MM for contesting. The best! http://pages.cthome.net/n1mm/ Both free! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX ARRL DXCC Card Checker VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-6520 ve6lb (at) rac.ca www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ - Original Message -

Re: [DX-CHAT] [working DX

2006-07-30 Thread harris_ruben
At 8:43 PM -0400 7/30/06, Peter Dougherty wrote: At 07:03 PM 07/30/2006, you wrote: Maybe. I have a Hy-Gain DB-1217 at 60' on 17, my favorite band, an Explorer-14 at 50', plus an AL 1500 behind it. I worked The Montenegro easiest on 40 CW with 100W to a rotatable dipole, and I can barely

Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?

2006-07-30 Thread Dan Zimmerman N3OX
Joe, Didn't mean to single out your prefix! I did a qrz.com search on KQ3XX just in case ;-) My favorite (and this happened a bit on 6m today when it was open to the Carribean) is this, and I'll be the lid this time... that's safe. DX: 6 Yankee One Victor QRZed? DX: Kilo Quebec Three

Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid splits...

2006-07-30 Thread Peter Dougherty
At 11:46 PM 07/30/2006, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: On the subject of things that plague DXpeditions... what makes ops think it's OK to drift the pileup from 5 up to 35 up during the course of the evening??!?! Let me clarify this - that's a CW pileup, NOT PHONE! I really do feel sorry for the

[DX-CHAT] I take it all back

2006-07-30 Thread harris_ruben
You CAN work new DX with nothing. Here I am, at my Summer home, and I hear KH8SI (55) on my 17M sort-of-inverted-vee that went up yesterday, and I picked a quiet spot and... worked a new one on 100 w. The bands ARE open. It's just that no one is on them. N2ERN -- No trees were harmed in the

Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid splits...

2006-07-30 Thread Dan Zimmerman N3OX
Peter, I am, of course, referring to the current situation, but he's not the only time I've heard this. A certain DXpedition to the near-antarctic on 40m CW was a travesty some nights this way too. I know ops get caught up in the pileup, but sometimes you've just got to hit the split reset

Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid splits...

2006-07-30 Thread David Kozinn, K2DBK
Gee, only 35 up? As of the time I'm writing this (about 12:30 AM EDT), he's on 14.022 (and a pretty solid S8 on my G5RV) with guys calling him all the way up to 14.082. I guess that would be 60 wide, though it does't look or sound like anyone is calling him below around 14.042, so I guess he's got