[DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread petethepup
Well, it seems the order from on high for KP5 to QRT has been dismissed as one of those things. Those who worked them will get the card - myself included. But my inquiring mind still wants to know who took it upon them self to decide that KP5 should be cut short. Rich, N8UX.

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
I have to wonder about that. Now keep in mind that following is simply the half-baked the musings of an idle imagination... so please don't start rumors that this IS what happened... But suppose that some amateur had a legit concern that the recent KP5 operation was, indeed, authorized and

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Norm Gertz
Not surprised.some bureaocrat/political appointee was mad that he was not consulted etc The sad part is that dope runners and others go ashore there all the time without getting caught. 73 Norm K1AA - Original Message - From: petethepup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Boris Knezovic T93Y
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: The Daily DX has had an exclusive on this story since it was published a couple of weeks ago. I assume that Bernie W3UR or the author will publish the information to the world shortly. In the mean time, speculation is just that. 73 - Jim AD1C (a Daily DX subscriber)

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
And now the thread has gone full circle, as we've come right back to where we started... The question remains, though, as to WHY this schmuck did what they did. 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Manthe Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Peter Penta
Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story. DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past. 73 Pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Notarius WN3VAW Sent:

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Another question: how does a random licensed amateur cause the operation to be prematurely terminated? A Freedom of Information Act query into the agency that implemented the termination might yield a clue or two. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
I agree. Not to punish the schmuck per se, but to make sure that this type of stunt doesn't happen again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary McClellan Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:03 PM Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Understanding what happened so we can minimize the probability that it will happen again seems like a reasonable course of action. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Penta Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:17 PM

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Charles Wooten NF4A
Peteperhaps you know something? NF4A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary McClellan Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 PM Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ? Peter, sorry - NO we don't. I want to know WHY what was

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Barry
The schmuck should be punished. It seems pretty obvious to me that it was someone else who was wanting to go, but didn't have the right connections to get approval. Then, in a selfish, sour grapes move, he saw to it that if he couldn't go, nobody would. The FOIA is a good idea and if/when the

[DX-CHAT] KP5 other DXpeditions

2006-03-14 Thread Charles Harpole
It is sad that a simple but clear statement of the recent KP5 operation can not just be published, apparently. Full disclosure will make everyone sit easier. However, after being somewhat involved in operations in XW, VU4, 9N, A5, and so on, I also know that sometimes nothing can be said

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread David Johnson
I'll bet there are at least 50 different theories about the guy that caused the problem.Here is mine. The guy needs KP5 for aall time new one, he is convinced that FWL has not given permission and the contacts will not count for DXCC. He is sure that these guys have ruined his chance for a

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Scott Manthe
I'm betting he needs something besides KP5 for the top of the honor roll and called his congressman to make sure no one passes him on the honor roll. That or he had an expedition planned and he doesn't want anyone stealing his thunder. Some hams are shallow and pathetic, so neither of these

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Tom Anderson
Fellow DXers: Having been a newspaper reporter covering law enforcement for 20+ years I can tell you whoever this is will spill the beans so to speak eventually. People just like to brag. I've written about 100's of cases where it wasn't necessarily good police work that solved it

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents

2006-03-14 Thread Scott Manthe
What nasty rhetoric? There is quite a bit of innuendo going back and forth, but no nasty rhetoric. I suppose if I had called my Congressman asking to shut down the operation, I might be sweating a little, but I don't think anyone considers anything that's been said here nasty rhetoric. Why

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents

2006-03-14 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
The issue at hand is not the documentation, but who was responsible for the shut down... and why. As far as the proper paperwork etc., all was explained in the release via the Daily DX several weeks ago. Yes, I know this hasn't been publicly dissemenated yet, but I'm sure all will be out

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Zack Widup
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Peter Penta wrote: Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story. DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past. 73 Pete You could say that about the JFK assassination, too. However, there are

RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?

2006-03-14 Thread Zack Widup
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Dave AA6YQ wrote: Another question: how does a random licensed amateur cause the operation to be prematurely terminated? A Freedom of Information Act query into the agency that implemented the termination might yield a clue or two. 73, Dave, AA6YQ I

Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents

2006-03-14 Thread Zack Widup
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote: Forgive me for asking a stupid question and throwing water on everyone's parade but has anyone published a copy of the documents, signed by FW, authorizing the KP5 operation...???... I have never seen ANY documents published showing that any given