T his reminds me:
Why are new hams using QSL instead of OVER ?
The Q-code was made for telegraphy to save time and avoid language
confusion. !
73
RAG Ragnar Otterstad LA5HE JW5HE OZ8RO
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Well, for one thing, QSL means received and understood whereas OVER means
back over to you which are not the same thing.
Regardless, use of the Q signals has crept into voice communications for
longer than almost any of us have been alive. And... when communicating on
voice with someone who
It appears to me that the use of Over, Standby, Please, Sorry,
etc. fall right in line with the Incident Command System (ICS) and
National Incident Managament System (NIMS) adopted by emergency
comunications personnel in the USA. These systems urge the use of common,
plain wording in message
Many if not most of new hams are graduates of the CB ranks.
While I'm glad that they discovered ham radio, I'm also
irked that they brought their vocabulary and procedures
with them.
Things like Got a copy?, I'll be on the side,
How much power are you throwing?, you've got Bill here,
and many
Bob,
You describe the problem very well. The only thing is, it's kind of like an
accent. You can pick it up going in, and you tend to lose it going out.
Habits are hard to break, but so long as we don't pick up on it ourselves, I
think in time it will begin to fade. If we don't acknowledge
The Z signals are military, and are/were not intended for use in commercial
services.
The Q signals are of course used in commercial services, and also in the
military.
Both sets of signals are periodically updated in ACP-131, at this link
- http://www.jcs.mil/j6/cceb/acps/ACP131F.pdf
73,
At 11:08 AM 6/3/2008, David Yarnes wrote:
You describe the problem very well. The only thing is, it's kind of
like an accent. You can pick it up going in, and you tend to lose
it going out. Habits are hard to break, but so long as we don't
pick up on it ourselves, I think in time it will
There are two distinct systems involved here.
The Q signals have always been as listed; some operators twisted their
meanings just like slang; this still continues. In past years the military
and commercial high speed operations used Z signals in their procedure; no Q
signals.
The
- Original Message -
From: Norm Gertz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: 6/3/2008 2:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio Procedure-on phone
In past years the military and commercial high speed operations used Z signals
in their procedure; no Q signals.
Norm,
Here,
The Q signal list referred to by Hans is quite extensive--more so than
probably ever used by amateurs. In fact, some don't correspond to the ones we
use. The QN's are a case in point. That sequence is used by amateurs for net
operation. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see QRRR on the list,
My 2c worth. Looks like everybody got different trigger points or words
that trigger people.
One guy on our 2 meter repeater gets triggered by multiple 73 ( like:
73s )
Lou KE1F / ZF2XY
Peter Dougherty wrote:
At 11:08 AM 6/3/2008, David Yarnes wrote:
You describe the problem very
I simply do not understand all the hoopla over using q signals on phone.
Almost every DX expedition uses QRZ
after completing a contact and individual DX ops do the same. That QSL and
QRM, QSB are used daily by experienced ops. My Elmer taught them to me. 73
Russ W4UBC
At 06:17 PM 6/3/2008, RUSSELL KELLAM JR wrote:
I simply do not understand all the hoopla over using q signals on phone.
Russ, it's called excess boredom.
73,
Mike, W5UC
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