Re: [DX-CHAT] Lat/Long for QTH
At 10:24 PM 7/13/03 -0400, you wrote: Anybody know a web site that I can the exact Lat. and Long. for my QTH ?? http://zipinfo.com/search/zipcode.htm Urb, W2DEC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
Hi Larry, I use http://www.topozone.com quite a bit. After I've located my general area, I usually select the features 1:25000 and LARGE at the top of the map. At the bottom you can choose to display UTM coordinates, decimal degrees or deg/min/sec. I usually use the latter. At the bottom of the page you can read the latitude and longitude to the second as you move the cursor around. You just have to find your exact QTH on the map and put the cursor on it. I often use this for hilltopping microwave operations when I need a 6-character grid square or even a 12-character grid square. It's just a matter of finding the hilltop on the map. The topo elevation contours make that simple. For anyone planning a bombing run, my home QTH is at 40 deg 06 min 19 sec N, 88 deg 11 min 45 sec W. :-) 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Larry, K4WLS wrote: Many thanks Jack, TopoZone gave me the correct Lat/Long. The Lat/Long list in RAC, QRZ.COM, etc was not exactly correct. Needed it for W6EL Prop and my GeoClock Gray-Line Program. TKS AGN (WO's come through) :-) :-) Larry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
I think a lot of those just use the zip, which can cover a large area (not that propagation is that sensitive to small changes in location). As I recall, Buckmaster was a bit closer than the others when I checked a previous QTH. You can edit the listing at QRZ to put in the correct lat/long. I used the the Xastir APRS program with terraserver photographic maps, zooming way in to actually pinpoint the corner of my house where the antenna is located. Way more precision than I needed. Bob, N7XY On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 01:50:17AM -0400, Larry, K4WLS wrote: Many thanks Jack, TopoZone gave me the correct Lat/Long. The Lat/Long list in RAC, QRZ.COM, etc was not exactly correct. Needed it for W6EL Prop and my GeoClock Gray-Line Program. TKS AGN (WO's come through) :-) :-) Larry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
Good Luck on that Zack. I went there and found a High school where it has not been since one year before I graduated in 1957, and the 30 year old neighborhood where I live isn't shown on the map.. At 10:47 AM 7/14/2003 -0500, Zack Widup wrote: Hi Larry, I use http://www.topozone.com quite a bit. After I've located my general area, I usually select the features 1:25000 and LARGE at the top of the map. At the bottom you can choose to display UTM coordinates, decimal degrees or deg/min/sec. I usually use the latter. At the bottom of the page you can read the latitude and longitude to the second as you move the cursor around. You just have to find your exact QTH on the map and put the cursor on it. I often use this for hilltopping microwave operations when I need a 6-character grid square or even a 12-character grid square. It's just a matter of finding the hilltop on the map. The topo elevation contours make that simple. For anyone planning a bombing run, my home QTH is at 40 deg 06 min 19 sec N, 88 deg 11 min 45 sec W. :-) 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Larry, K4WLS wrote: Many thanks Jack, TopoZone gave me the correct Lat/Long. The Lat/Long list in RAC, QRZ.COM, etc was not exactly correct. Needed it for W6EL Prop and my GeoClock Gray-Line Program. TKS AGN (WO's come through) :-) :-) Larry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Outbound mail checked by Norton Anti-Virus 2003
Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
Hi Mike, You must live in an area where they haven't done a survey in a long time! Most of the topo data at that site was done around 1999. Where do you live? Zack W9SZ On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) Watson wrote: Good Luck on that Zack. I went there and found a High school where it has not been since one year before I graduated in 1957, and the 30 year old neighborhood where I live isn't shown on the map.. At 10:47 AM 7/14/2003 -0500, Zack Widup wrote: Hi Larry, I use http://www.topozone.com quite a bit. After I've located my general area, I usually select the features 1:25000 and LARGE at the top of the map. At the bottom you can choose to display UTM coordinates, decimal degrees or deg/min/sec. I usually use the latter. At the bottom of the page you can read the latitude and longitude to the second as you move the cursor around. You just have to find your exact QTH on the map and put the cursor on it. I often use this for hilltopping microwave operations when I need a 6-character grid square or even a 12-character grid square. It's just a matter of finding the hilltop on the map. The topo elevation contours make that simple. For anyone planning a bombing run, my home QTH is at 40 deg 06 min 19 sec N, 88 deg 11 min 45 sec W. :-) 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
If you have Delorme Street Atlas, it will nail it down to within about 100 feet. At 03:40 PM 7/14/2003 +, Paul Playford wrote: I believe the Lat/Long in QRZ.COM etc is that of your post office, and it would be close enough for most purposes. Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Outbound mail checked by Norton Anti-Virus 2003
Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
With so many map enthusiasts raising their heads to answer this question, now might be a good time to mention a New Yahoo Group for Map Enthusiasts - 'Radio Map Users'. Though primarily created for users of the Global Overlay Mapping system, this group also discusses any other aspects of Maps and Map Making that are of interest to Radio Amateurs, SWLs, or professionals working in the Radio or Mapping industry. Share your hints and tips, compare mapping programs and resources, tell members about new maps you have noticed. If you are interested in Radio and Maps, you are very welcome to visit or join. Please pass this message on to anyone whom you think would also be interested in joining. Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-map-users 73s Tim EI8IC - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2003 16:47 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long Hi Larry, I use http://www.topozone.com quite a bit. After I've located my general area, I usually select the features 1:25000 and LARGE at the top of the map. At the bottom you can choose to display UTM coordinates, decimal degrees or deg/min/sec. I usually use the latter. At the bottom of the page you can read the latitude and longitude to the second as you move the cursor around. You just have to find your exact QTH on the map and put the cursor on it. I often use this for hilltopping microwave operations when I need a 6-character grid square or even a 12-character grid square. It's just a matter of finding the hilltop on the map. The topo elevation contours make that simple. For anyone planning a bombing run, my home QTH is at 40 deg 06 min 19 sec N, 88 deg 11 min 45 sec W. :-) 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Larry, K4WLS wrote: Many thanks Jack, TopoZone gave me the correct Lat/Long. The Lat/Long list in RAC, QRZ.COM, etc was not exactly correct. Needed it for W6EL Prop and my GeoClock Gray-Line Program. TKS AGN (WO's come through) :-) :-) Larry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?
Well Spoken!! Tho I have managed to make the honor roll, some that I need, have not nearly been accessible over the years, as Mt. Athos. And, still are not! Ray K5RPC - Original Message - From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX Chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX? Urb, as always, raises some good points, and I find myself pretty much in agreement with his sentiments. However, I don't think that the issue is what is DX? so much as it is what is a DXCC entity? There IS a difference. In other words, if Mt. Athos, SMOM, 4U1UN, 4U1ITU, M-V Island, and so on are removed from the DXCC or WAE or whatever lists... they're still DX, just not additional counters in our specialized little game here. Now, whether or not these, shall we say, unusual entities should have been given their separate recognition (for whatever reason based on the DXCC rules at the time of recognition) is academic; they have the recognition. That other, similar potential entities (such as 4U1VIC and 4U1WB) have not received similar recognition (again, for whatever reason based on the rules at the time recognition was applied for) is also academic; they ain't gonna get it, and won't unless the existing rules are modified. Should they be? That, as they say, is the rub. In other words, the system is as fair as possible considering time, changing politics, and changing rules. But it is not and never will be 100% fair. To get a little more specific for a moment: I do not know if the Powers That Be on SV/A would prefer not having separate recognition for Mt. Athos from Greece for DXCC purposes; but considering that, despite the importance of the SV/A counter in our game to us, it is at best a distraction to them that they could do without. And I think we all forget to some degree sometimes that Monk Apollo is there for many other purposes than giving us all a new DXCC band/mode entity. To that extent, I would agree with Urb that we have sometimes been spoiled by the 20/30/40K QSO DXpeditions of late. Nevertheless, Mt. Athos is a DXCC entity, and so long as it remains so, activity from there will be coveted. And many won't be fortunate enough to work it. So it goes; it is simply something that we will have to learn to accept. Otherwise, we run the risk that the Powers That Be will simply revoke Monk Apollo's permission to operate from SV/A, and will not permit anyone else to do so... and we will all be worse off for it. (Just consider that at least one low-level bureaucrat has allegedly written the ARRL to have Navassa Desecheo removed from the list so that they won't have to deal with all of the amateurs asking for permission to land operate from there -- nice to know it's ok for the illegal fishermen, drug dealers, pirates, and so on to land there but those of us who follow the rules and ask nicely first get the proverbial bureaucratic shaft, but I digress...) Remember too that even if you could make a case for removing SV/A and some of the other oddballs from the list, under the current rules, the entity does NOT move to the Deleted list but disappears for all time as if it never were -- the one portion of the update I did not and do not agree with. You can just imagine the outcry from all of those losing that counter for all time -- I'd bet it would surpass the current grumbling from a few of those of us who haven't worked or confirmed it yet. Finally, to address Urb's last question, taking into consideration that despite the alleged waning interest in and number of licensed / active amateurs in the world today... DX is probably easier for most of us to work and confirm today than it was or would have been 50 years ago. So yes, some of us are a little spoiled. (But I'll tell you, I was amazed at how much fun it was, my first ventures onto 17 and 12 meters, to work some of the common DX entities for the first times on these bands -- and without benefit of linear, beam, net, or cluster either.) So, whaddya think about trying to shift our focus from arguing about the merits of whether or not a particular entity should or should not be on the list to trying to help get those less active entities QRV? 73, ron wn3vaw AJ: Did you ever hear of Evel Kneival? Lev: I never saw Star Wars -- Armageddon - Original Message - From: Urb LeJeune [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] What is DX? I totally accept the fact that I'm an old fart and that the condition colors (and reduces) my thinking process. Having said that I fail to understand some of the thinking express during the recent new country/ Mt. Athos threads. There is a danger in any discussion that the definitions of key terms may not be universally shared. To wit, what do we mean by DX? To be sure, at one time DX was defined by distance, this is still
[DX-CHAT] Ref: QTH Lat/Long
Many thanks all the input folks - this was interesting. Using the TopoZone web site provided by Jack, I got right down to the neighborhood and street in Belmont, NC where I live. The map showed Belmont Jr. High instead of Belmont High School so the map was as recent as 23 years. Clicking the mouse on the exact location of my house on my street gave me: 35.239 N, and 81.047 W I do live in an old section of town where the streets and geography have not changed in at least 63 years. If you live in a new sub-section or housing area, TopoZone may not work for you, since TopZone is based on the latest USCGS maps. Using the ZipInfo web site provided by Urb, I just entered my Zip Code of 28012 and got: 35.234 N, and 81.041W I do live close to the post office. If your QTH is within reasonable distance to your post office, the ZipInfo web site is much easier and faster to use. In my case the difference is negligble and sure won't make any difference in my sunrise/sunset times for my GeoClock program or propagation predictions by W6EL. Many thanks again all - you guys/gals are great !!Larry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
