Re: Vedr. [DX-CHAT] 1B1AB
Go on Rag, say something provocative for a change :-) Dave G0OIL ragnar otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northern Cypros is occupied territory. It is not recognised as Turkish, in the same way as Jerusalem is not recognised as Israeli, by the international community. 73 rag la5he --- Charles Harpole skrev: Hello DXers, What is the possible DXCC status of Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus (TRNC)? I worked 1B1AB and his web page on qrz.com in interesting. I did not even know of a TRNC. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ A place for moms to take a break! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: Vedr. [DX-CHAT] 1B1AB
ragnar otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northern Cypros is occupied territory. Do not feed the troll.^ John k5mo Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] 1b1ab
Posted by Soyer 1B1AB into NL13289's blog: This is one subject that puzzles me for many years, I am sure DXCC panel must have a good reason before they include any entity to DXCC list. Can anyone explain why Mount Athos (The peninsula of Holy Mountain Athos) in DXCC list, those who live there are monks living the monastic life. For children and women forbidden, only some men can pay visit to monastery with very special permission there is no residence other then monks yet it has a DXCC entity, same time has no prefix of they own announcement by any SV amateur SV/A MOUNT ATHOS good enough for DXCC !. Since monks never gone become amateur radio operator why have DXCC entity? YET HERE IS. TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS (TRNC) WITHOUT DXCC ENTITY. The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) was formed on 15th November 1983. It is a parliamentary democracy under the President. It covers an area of 3.355 sq km and has a population of just over 256,000, predominantly Turkish-speaking though English widely used in the main cities and resorts. The currency is Turkish Lira, traffic drive on the right, laws are base on to English and Turkish code of laws, amateur radio prefix is 1B. Because of the commercial importance of its geographical situation in the Mediterranan,the island of Cyprus has, throughout history, been subject to colonisation. It was accupied consecutively by Egyptians, Hittites, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Persians, Romanians, Byzantines, Lusignians, Venetians and, finally in 1571, Turks. In 1878 the island was rented to Britain and in 1923, as part of the Peace Treaty of Lausanne, Turkey accepted the annexation of the island to Britain who, 1925. pronounced it a Crown Colony. Greek Cypriots in Cyprus started agitating for the cessation of British governance in 1931. As a result of continuing violence, a Republic of Cyprus was created in August 1960; Britain, Greece and Turkey were guarantors of its independence. From the outset, however, the Greek-dominated administration aspired to unite the whole island with neighbouring Greece, with the subsequent forced removal of Turkish Cypriots. In 1974, after years of increasing oppression and violation of human rights of the Turkish population, the Turkish Government exercised its rights under the 1960 Treaty to despatch a military force to Cyprus to protect Turkish Cypriots. The subsequent conflict resulted in a military stalemate, and in November 1983 the division of the island was formalised by the creation of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Attempts to reconcile differences and reunite island as a federation of two states have been made ever since, the latest initiative being the UN Annan Plan for reunification In an island-wide referendum, however, 76% of Greek Cypriots rejected the Plan, while it was approved by 65% of Turkish Cypriots. Efforts to find a solution continues, without any encouragement from Greek part of the island, still 76% of Greek Cypriots opposing unity of North and South Cyprus. 73s de 1B1AB Soyer Ecesoy NL13289's blog: http://www.nl13289.com/ (7th item down - To DXCC or not DXCC) Similarly, in an attempt to find out more abt 1B1AB, i too had an open discussion in my blog some months ago, which laterly became nothing more than a SV-1B1 hate feast.. Colin MM0NDX _ Can you see your house from the sky? Try Live Search Maps http://maps.live.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 1b1ab
--- C McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YET HERE IS. TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS (TRNC) WITHOUT DXCC ENTITY. Read the DXCC Criteria at: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/rules.html#sii TRNC must meet one of the following criteria to qualify as a political entity, and presumably it does not (c) doesn't apply in this case; a) The entity is a UN Member State. b) The entity has been assigned a callsign prefix bloc by the ITU. (The exceptions to this rule are international organizations, such as the UN and ICAO. These Entities are classified under Special Areas, 3.a); and Ineligible Areas, 4.b).) A provisional prefix bloc assignment may be made by the Secretary General of ITU. Should such provisional assignments not be ratified later by the full ITU, the Entity will be removed from the DXCC List. c) The Entity contains a permanent population, is administered by a local government, and is located at least 800 km from its parent. To satisfy the permanent population and administered by a local government criteria of this sub-section, an Entity must be listed on either (a) the U.S. Department of State's list of Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty as having a local Administrative Center, or (b) the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/0, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] 1b1ab
Simply put, Mt. Athos became a separate entity under the old rules of separate administration which were removed many years ago. However, once added to the DXCC list an entity cannot be removed so long as it continues to meet the criteria under which it was accepted. TRNC is not accepted because it is a rebellious state - simply put, it is in rebellion against the legitimate and internationally recognized government. This is the same reason that amateur operations by 4O4 and 4N4 calls were not recognized for the last several years in T9/E7, that operations from Karen State in Myanmar were not recognized several years ago and operations by rebels Cambodia were not recognized before that. amateur radio prefix is 1B. 1B is not an official prefix (ITU does not issue the 1AA-1ZZ call block). If TRNC were to obtain an official callsign block and amateurs in TRNC were to have a national society recognized by IARU, TRNC would then become a candidate for addition to the DXCC list. However, until the state of rebellion status is resolved, I doubt that TRNC will achieve recognition sufficient to obtain either. As far as I can determine, TRNC is not recognized by any nation except Turkey and the status of TRNC is one of the issues that has effected the entry of Turkey into the EU. I find it odd that Turkey can endorse rebellion for ethnic Turks in TRNC and suppress it ruthlessly for ethnic Kurds in their quest for a Kurdish national identity. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C McGowan Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:13 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] 1b1ab Posted by Soyer 1B1AB into NL13289's blog: This is one subject that puzzles me for many years, I am sure DXCC panel must have a good reason before they include any entity to DXCC list. Can anyone explain why Mount Athos (The peninsula of Holy Mountain Athos) in DXCC list, those who live there are monks living the monastic life. For children and women forbidden, only some men can pay visit to monastery with very special permission there is no residence other then monks yet it has a DXCC entity, same time has no prefix of they own announcement by any SV amateur SV/A MOUNT ATHOS good enough for DXCC !. Since monks never gone become amateur radio operator why have DXCC entity? YET HERE IS. TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS (TRNC) WITHOUT DXCC ENTITY. The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) was formed on 15th November 1983. It is a parliamentary democracy under the President. It covers an area of 3.355 sq km and has a population of just over 256,000, predominantly Turkish-speaking though English widely used in the main cities and resorts. The currency is Turkish Lira, traffic drive on the right, laws are base on to English and Turkish code of laws, amateur radio prefix is 1B. Because of the commercial importance of its geographical situation in the Mediterranan,the island of Cyprus has, throughout history, been subject to colonisation. It was accupied consecutively by Egyptians, Hittites, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Persians, Romanians, Byzantines, Lusignians, Venetians and, finally in 1571, Turks. In 1878 the island was rented to Britain and in 1923, as part of the Peace Treaty of Lausanne, Turkey accepted the annexation of the island to Britain who, 1925. pronounced it a Crown Colony. Greek Cypriots in Cyprus started agitating for the cessation of British governance in 1931. As a result of continuing violence, a Republic of Cyprus was created in August 1960; Britain, Greece and Turkey were guarantors of its independence. From the outset, however, the Greek-dominated administration aspired to unite the whole island with neighbouring Greece, with the subsequent forced removal of Turkish Cypriots. In 1974, after years of increasing oppression and violation of human rights of the Turkish population, the Turkish Government exercised its rights under the 1960 Treaty to despatch a military force to Cyprus to protect Turkish Cypriots. The subsequent conflict resulted in a military stalemate, and in November 1983 the division of the island was formalised by the creation of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Attempts to reconcile differences and reunite island as a federation of two states have been made ever since, the latest initiative being the UN Annan Plan for reunification In an island-wide referendum, however, 76% of Greek Cypriots rejected the Plan, while it was approved by 65% of Turkish Cypriots. Efforts to find a solution continues, without any encouragement from Greek part of the island, still 76% of Greek Cypriots opposing unity of North and South Cyprus. 73s de 1B1AB Soyer Ecesoy NL13289's blog: http://www.nl13289.com/ (7th
