[DX-CHAT] If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country?
Editorial (New York Times) The Urgent Islands Published: August 29, 2010 If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country? That is a question about which the Republic of the Marshall Islands — a Micronesian nation of 29 low-lying coral atolls — is now seeking expert legal advice. It is also a question the United States Senate might ask itself the next time it refuses to deal with climate change. According to the world’s leading scientists, sea-level rise is one of the greatest dangers of global warming, threatening not only islands but coastal cities like New Orleans and even entire countries like Bangladesh. In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change conservatively predicted a 20-inch sea-level rise by the end of this century if current trends were not reversed. Because of various uncertainties, its calculations excluded the melting of the Greenland and West Antarctica ice sheets. Some academic studies have suggested that rises of four to seven feet are not out of the question. Officials in the Marshall Islands — where a 20-inch rise would drown at least one atoll — are not only thinking about the possibility of having to move entire populations but are entertaining even more existential questions: If its people have to abandon the islands, what citizenship can they claim? Will the country still have a seat at the United Nations? Who owns its fishing rights and offshore mineral resources? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/opinion/30mon4.html -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country?
Since we have one current country that was never above the sea (BS7), the answer is yes. Barry W2UP On 12/7/2010 5:25 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Editorial (New York Times) The Urgent Islands Published: August 29, 2010 If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country? That is a question about which the Republic of the Marshall Islands — a Micronesian nation of 29 low-lying coral atolls — is now seeking expert legal advice. It is also a question the United States Senate might ask itself the next time it refuses to deal with climate change. According to the world’s leading scientists, sea-level rise is one of the greatest dangers of global warming, threatening not only islands but coastal cities like New Orleans and even entire countries like Bangladesh. In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change conservatively predicted a 20-inch sea-level rise by the end of this century if current trends were not reversed. Because of various uncertainties, its calculations excluded the melting of the Greenland and West Antarctica ice sheets. Some academic studies have suggested that rises of four to seven feet are not out of the question. Officials in the Marshall Islands — where a 20-inch rise would drown at least one atoll — are not only thinking about the possibility of having to move entire populations but are entertaining even more existential questions: If its people have to abandon the islands, what citizenship can they claim? Will the country still have a seat at the United Nations? Who owns its fishing rights and offshore mineral resources? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/opinion/30mon4.html -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Lakewood, CO --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country?
This issue is becoming a serious concern to many people and we tend to trivialize it with comments about how it affects our petty concern over DXCC status. - Original Message - From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: DX CHAT dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country? Since we have one current country that was never above the sea (BS7), the answer is yes. Barry W2UP On 12/7/2010 5:25 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Editorial (New York Times) The Urgent Islands Published: August 29, 2010 If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country? That is a question about which the Republic of the Marshall Islands — a Micronesian nation of 29 low-lying coral atolls — is now seeking expert legal advice. It is also a question the United States Senate might ask itself the next time it refuses to deal with climate change. According to the world’s leading scientists, sea-level rise is one of the greatest dangers of global warming, threatening not only islands but coastal cities like New Orleans and even entire countries like Bangladesh. In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change conservatively predicted a 20-inch sea-level rise by the end of this century if current trends were not reversed. Because of various uncertainties, its calculations excluded the melting of the Greenland and West Antarctica ice sheets. Some academic studies have suggested that rises of four to seven feet are not out of the question. Officials in the Marshall Islands — where a 20-inch rise would drown at least one atoll — are not only thinking about the possibility of having to move entire populations but are entertaining even more existential questions: If its people have to abandon the islands, what citizenship can they claim? Will the country still have a seat at the United Nations? Who owns its fishing rights and offshore mineral resources? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/opinion/30mon4.html -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Lakewood, CO --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In my opinion the United States of America can do essentially nothing to effect climate change/global warming. Haven't you heard ... this supposed global warming caused my man made CO2 emissions is a scam. I repeat ... scam, fraud. Man made emissions effect on climate change is a paltry 0.25%. Besides, India and China are the big polluters. Ignorance can be fixed, but you can't fix stupid. Doug Those Island days are always on my mind, Someday soon I leave it all behind -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: December 7, 2010 6:26 PM To: DX CHAT Subject: [DX-CHAT] If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country? Editorial (New York Times) The Urgent Islands Published: August 29, 2010 If a country sinks beneath the sea, is it still a country? That is a question about which the Republic of the Marshall Islands - a Micronesian nation of 29 low-lying coral atolls - is now seeking expert legal advice. It is also a question the United States Senate might ask itself the next time it refuses to deal with climate change. According to the world's leading scientists, sea-level rise is one of the greatest dangers of global warming, threatening not only islands but coastal cities like New Orleans and even entire countries like Bangladesh. In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change conservatively predicted a 20-inch sea-level rise by the end of this century if current trends were not reversed. Because of various uncertainties, its calculations excluded the melting of the Greenland and West Antarctica ice sheets. Some academic studies have suggested that rises of four to seven feet are not out of the question. Officials in the Marshall Islands - where a 20-inch rise would drown at least one atoll - are not only thinking about the possibility of having to move entire populations but are entertaining even more existential questions: If its people have to abandon the islands, what citizenship can they claim? Will the country still have a seat at the United Nations? Who owns its fishing rights and offshore mineral resources? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/opinion/30mon4.html -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
