Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
Steve... You do what you think is right. We have a user that continues to bash our country and president and you getting on me for cross posting. This has been going on for a long time. I hit the reply to all button and added the DX reflector. I did not notice the reply to all included the DXreflector! I also received some email agreeing with me. From your web page: This list is for the discussion of DX related matters only. It is not a list for the general discussion of ham radio, there are other lists and usenet news groups for that purpose. Adherence to these guidelines is mandatory! If you fail to follow the guidelines list below, you will immediately, and permanently, be removed for the list. So why is Rag still on the list? I enjoy the list and appreicate all the effort that goes into keeping it up. If the rules had been enforced prior to this I would not be typing to you. Regards, Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: urb LeJeune [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo I will take this advisement Bill, HOWEVER, I think that the qusetion besg to be asked, why you felt that this must be cross posted to the DX-NEWS in violation of our written rules? This conversation was going on the CHAT reflector, where it is suppose not (not necessarily this thread) but discussion and YOU decided that the NEWS reflector should get involved. I have 7 e-mails that are requesting YOU should be removed for directly violating what should be posted on the NEWS reflector. Now what should I do? Steve KF2TI On 23 Jun 2007 at 8:38, Bill wrote: It is time to remove Rag from the NJDXA reflectors! I for one do not what to hear his crap anymore! His total disrespect for MY President and MY Country has hit it's limit! I vote he be removed NOW!!! or I think you will loose some good subscribers! Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Bernie McClenny, W3UR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Joe Subich, W4TV' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:27 AM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo Rag your last two posts went to the wrong reflector. This is the DX Chat reflector not the bash America reflector. I think this is where you meant for your comments to go - http://pol.moveon.org/keepmeposted/ If you have something to say about DX fine - if you have something to say about politics take it somewhere else. Bernie, W3UR Bernie McClenny, W3UR -- Now more than ever - you need The Daily DX and The Weekly DX - to keep up with the DX news from around the globe! Editor of - The Daily DX -- two free weeks http://www.dailydx.com/order.htm - The Weekly DX -- free sample http://www.dailydx.com/weekly2.html - How's DX http://www.dailydx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 04:18 To: Joe Subich, W4TV; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo I can understand from your comments that you are unaware what the world feels about the subject. If one is trying to keep the moral high ground, nothing is more counterproductive than not practicing what you preach. It is an unfortunate fact that GWB has been a foreign policy disaster for his country. Abandoning Habeas Corpus was not a good move ! ( this week's understatement ! ) 73 Rag la5he Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US is a hobby rather than a matter of principal. Radical Islam will have to be in control of western Europe before they figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad. As has been said before - those who fail to learn from history will be condemned to repeat it. Those who refuse to actively oppose Radical Islam are just like the collaborators and the rest who failed to speak out against Nazism and the final solution in the 1940's. If the US had not stepped forward when it did, the National Socialist domination of continental Europe would have extended from the Urals to the Atlantic and the Arctic to the Cape of Good Hope. 73, ... Joe, W4TV It would most certainly improve USA's standing in the rest of the world. 73 Rag la5he Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US is a hobby rather than a matter of principal. Radical Islam will have to be in control of western Europe before they figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad. 73, Mike, W5UC Denne mail er blevet scannet for virus af TDC Mailfilter. -- Jeg bruker gratisversjonen av SPAMfighter for privatbrukere. Den har fjernet 1506 søppelpostmeldinger til nå. Betalende brukere har ikke denne
Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
Rather than try to enhance Steve's eloquence... What he said. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DX-NEWS] Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo This thread is officially over. It has, once again, gone beyond normal DX discussion. Tempers are flaring and the cross posting has begun in an effort to try to elicite support for conflicting opinions IT IS OVER DONE FINI so let it be written yada yada yada The time is 13:06 utc Posts placed after this will be dealt with accordingly Sorry to disturb a beautiful sunny day with this, but some people just can't control themselves Steve KF2TI 73, Steve - KF2TI -- 73, ron w3wn administrator, dx chat Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
The detention center is a new addition to the Guantanamo basecreated for the Gulf War detainees. The main base at Gtmo has a mission of its own..a Navy squadron, Marines and other support personnel. Even if they tore down the detention center it would not affect the original base. 73 Norm K1AA - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:32 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo There's some discussion in the news about Gitmo Bay: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/guantanamo/index.html It's hard to tell if they are talking about just closing the detention center or closing the whole base. Hopefully the base will remain. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
I wonder if the news media realizes the difference? But I think the closure only affects the detention center; I can't see the military abandoning Guantanamo Bay letting control revert back to Cuba anytime soon! 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zack Widup Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo There's some discussion in the news about Gitmo Bay: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/guantanamo/index.html It's hard to tell if they are talking about just closing the detention center or closing the whole base. Hopefully the base will remain. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
At 08:01 PM 6/22/2007, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: It would most certainly improve USA's standing in the rest of the world. 73 Rag la5he Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US is a hobby rather than a matter of principal. Radical Islam will have to be in control of western Europe before they figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad. 73, Mike, W5UC 1957 50 Years 2007 age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
At 08:01 PM 6/22/2007, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Even if they tore down the detention center it would not affect the original base. --- Or is it principle? Probably so; been asleep in front of the tube as the Rangers pound my poor stumbling Astros. GN Mike, W5UC 1957 50 Years 2007 age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
Keep the volume down on the subject gang, please. If you wish to discuss the international political ramifications of whether or not Guantanamo Bay (the detention center, the base, and/or both), that's you business, but this is not the place for it. I believe the intent of the original post wondered about the base simply because if the entire installation is closed, obviously the territory reverts to Cuba and the DXCC entity disappears. Getting beyond that into world politics regarding the detention center and all ramifications thereof -- belong somewhere else, not here. Thank you for your understanding. 73, ron w3wn administrator, dx chat Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.orgattachment: winmail.dat
RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US is a hobby rather than a matter of principal. Radical Islam will have to be in control of western Europe before they figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad. As has been said before - those who fail to learn from history will be condemned to repeat it. Those who refuse to actively oppose Radical Islam are just like the collaborators and the rest who failed to speak out against Nazism and the final solution in the 1940's. If the US had not stepped forward when it did, the National Socialist domination of continental Europe would have extended from the Urals to the Atlantic and the Arctic to the Cape of Good Hope. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo At 08:01 PM 6/22/2007, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: It would most certainly improve USA's standing in the rest of the world. 73 Rag la5he Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US is a hobby rather than a matter of principal. Radical Islam will have to be in control of western Europe before they figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad. 73, Mike, W5UC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
