RE: [DX-CHAT] Re:Digital robots

2007-11-26 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
1.  The ARRL didn't push through the no code test license.  Has everyone
forgotten No Code International?
2.  The ARRL didn't initiate incentive licensing.  The FCC did.  What the
ARRL did was take the FCC's rather draconian plans and come up with
something more palatable... and they've been falling on their sword for that
ever since.
2a.  Incentive licensing happened roughly 45 years ago, and almost all of
the instigators are retired or have QSY'd to another plane of existance.
Can't we give that poor dead horse a break from ~45 years of beatings?
3.  The digital robots exist.  They're already out there.  Their operators
are demanding their share of the pie, too.  So what are you going to do?
Abolish them?  Or find a place to put them where they won't bother anyone
else or be bothered by anyone else, which is not the situation we have
today.  Remember... either we work it out ourselves, or the FCC and other
governmental agencies will do it for us -- and after seeing the debacle of
the 80/75 meter phone band expansion and it's impact on 80 CW  80 Digital
operators (including DX'ers), I'm not sure I trust them to have our best
interests in mind.

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  Remember incentive licensing? Now, a few decades later, and money is
tight, a license without code gets through the FCC. Have to keep up the
membership, you know. But now they want dx space for digital robots.
  Am I missing something?
  David Miller W1GDQ

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RE: [DX-CHAT] Re:Digital robots

2007-11-26 Thread john

At 06:15 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:

1.  The ARRL didn't push through the no code test license.  Has everyone
forgotten No Code International?



They defended the code test license with all the enthusiasm of a wet noodle.



3.  The digital robots exist.  They're already out there.  Their operators
are demanding their share of the pie, too.  So what are you going to do?


Gee...a handful of digi robot ops get the full attention of the ARRL, yet 
CW ops get the short stick.


I wonder why that is?

John K5MO 




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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re:Digital robots

2007-11-26 Thread Win

I'm with John on this,,because I like his QSL card.

Win, W0LZ



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At 06:15 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:

1.  The ARRL didn't push through the no code test license.  Has everyone
forgotten No Code International?



They defended the code test license with all the enthusiasm of a wet 
noodle.




3.  The digital robots exist.  They're already out there.  Their operators
are demanding their share of the pie, too.  So what are you going to do?


Gee...a handful of digi robot ops get the full attention of the ARRL, yet 
CW ops get the short stick.


I wonder why that is?

John K5MO


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RE: [DX-CHAT] Re:Digital robots

2007-11-26 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
I've heard worse reasons!  g

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I'm with John on this,,because I like his QSL card.

Win, W0LZ



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Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Re:Digital robots


 At 06:15 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
1.  The ARRL didn't push through the no code test license.  Has everyone
forgotten No Code International?


 They defended the code test license with all the enthusiasm of a wet
 noodle.


3.  The digital robots exist.  They're already out there.  Their operators
are demanding their share of the pie, too.  So what are you going to do?

 Gee...a handful of digi robot ops get the full attention of the ARRL, yet
 CW ops get the short stick.

 I wonder why that is?

 John K5MO


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