Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If no one donated, do you think any large DXpeditions would happen? Maybe you have a few hundred $ laying around but most hams don't. The donations make DXpeditions happen. Most hams are happy to donate. If you aren't then that's your problem. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying work this one OR ELSE! Most who do go do foot the bill for their own travel, lodging expenses and even meals. The other costs are what make up the most expensive part. If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, If you think it is a free holiday in the sun by all means organize your own DXpedition, raise the cash beforehand to go and try to recoup it all with a few measly green stamps. Might I also suggest Scarborough, Peter One, Bouvet or Marion Island as ideal candidates for a free holiday in the sun. Reality is that it is far from being a free holiday, and most DXpeditioners spend nearly all of their time on the radio, just because some DXpeditioner wants a new one in the log. Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO It is a choice. If you don't donate, you will get a free card via the bureau. IMO, even that is pretty generous. What you want is fast service for no money. Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ragnar otterstad la...@yahoo.no wrote: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO 73 Rag http://tinyurl.com/c6g6g4k http://de.visittelemark.com/ or http://www.telemarkskanalen.no/nor/Kanalen where we are located riverside. Ubi Morsum verba tacent Fra: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Onsdag, 21. desember 2011 20.11 Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Are you sure they did it? Their webpage says this: Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends. http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation was that LoTW was a perk of donating. It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it. I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a new one. Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway. But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rag...@otterstad.dk rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: That's not the point at all Rag. And don't change the subject. --- The subject being: Why was the log not uploaded to LOTW immediately ?? The Russians at TX7M did it- very commendable IMHO 73 and Merry Christmas Rag la5he mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
Out of ignorance I ask this question of the group - Having confirmed every entity on the list and never contributed anything in advance of receiving a confirmation, my experience leads me to believe there is no such thing as extortion to get confirmation. What am I missing? Are there/have there been such examples and if so, where and who? Don K1VSK - Original Message - From: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If no one donated, do you think any large DXpeditions would happen? Maybe you have a few hundred $ laying around but most hams don't. The donations make DXpeditions happen. Most hams are happy to donate. If you aren't then that's your problem. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying work this one OR ELSE! Most who do go do foot the bill for their own travel, lodging expenses and even meals. The other costs are what make up the most expensive part. If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, If you think it is a free holiday in the sun by all means organize your own DXpedition, raise the cash beforehand to go and try to recoup it all with a few measly green stamps. Might I also suggest Scarborough, Peter One, Bouvet or Marion Island as ideal candidates for a free holiday in the sun. Reality is that it is far from being a free holiday, and most DXpeditioners spend nearly all of their time on the radio, just because some DXpeditioner wants a new one in the log. Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO It is a choice. If you don't donate, you will get a free card via the bureau. IMO, even that is pretty generous. What you want is fast service for no money. Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ragnar otterstad la...@yahoo.no wrote: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO 73 Rag http://tinyurl.com/c6g6g4k http://de.visittelemark.com/ or http://www.telemarkskanalen.no/nor/Kanalen where we are located riverside. Ubi Morsum verba tacent Fra: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Onsdag, 21. desember 2011 20.11 Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Are you sure they did it? Their webpage says this: Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends. http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation was that LoTW was a perk of donating. It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it. I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a new one. Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway. But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rag...@otterstad.dk rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: That's not the point at all Rag. And don't change the subject. --- The subject being: Why was the log not uploaded to LOTW immediately ?? The Russians at TX7M did it- very commendable IMHO 73 and Merry Christmas Rag la5he mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http
Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
And there is always the old rule: if you don't like the game don't play it. Go away and play another game you like. Fred - PY7ZZ Em 21/12/2011 17:46, Ryan Jairam escreveu: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If no one donated, do you think any large DXpeditions would happen? Maybe you have a few hundred $ laying around but most hams don't. The donations make DXpeditions happen. Most hams are happy to donate. If you aren't then that's your problem. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying work this one OR ELSE! Most who do go do foot the bill for their own travel, lodging expenses and even meals. The other costs are what make up the most expensive part. If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, If you think it is a free holiday in the sun by all means organize your own DXpedition, raise the cash beforehand to go and try to recoup it all with a few measly green stamps. Might I also suggest Scarborough, Peter One, Bouvet or Marion Island as ideal candidates for a free holiday in the sun. Reality is that it is far from being a free holiday, and most DXpeditioners spend nearly all of their time on the radio, just because some DXpeditioner wants a new one in the log. Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO It is a choice. If you don't donate, you will get a free card via the bureau. IMO, even that is pretty generous. What you want is fast service for no money. Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ragnar otterstadla...@yahoo.no wrote: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO 73 Rag http://tinyurl.com/c6g6g4k http://de.visittelemark.com/ or http://www.telemarkskanalen.no/nor/Kanalen where we are located riverside. Ubi Morsum verba tacent Fra: Ryan Jairamrjai...@gmail.com Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Onsdag, 21. desember 2011 20.11 Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Are you sure they did it? Their webpage says this: Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends. http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation was that LoTW was a perk of donating. It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it. I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a new one. Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway. But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rag...@otterstad.dk rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: That's not the point at all Rag. And don't change the subject. --- The subject being: Why was the log not uploaded to LOTW immediately ?? The Russians at TX7M did it- very commendable IMHO 73 and Merry Christmas Rag la5he mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
F6FNU required a gratuity to get cards from any of the rare Africans he managed. I believe the same was true with DJ6SI. Barry W2UP On 12/21/2011 2:06 PM, Don Berger wrote: Out of ignorance I ask this question of the group - Having confirmed every entity on the list and never contributed anything in advance of receiving a confirmation, my experience leads me to believe there is no such thing as extortion to get confirmation. What am I missing? Are there/have there been such examples and if so, where and who? Don K1VSK - Original Message - From: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If no one donated, do you think any large DXpeditions would happen? Maybe you have a few hundred $ laying around but most hams don't. The donations make DXpeditions happen. Most hams are happy to donate. If you aren't then that's your problem. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying work this one OR ELSE! Most who do go do foot the bill for their own travel, lodging expenses and even meals. The other costs are what make up the most expensive part. If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, If you think it is a free holiday in the sun by all means organize your own DXpedition, raise the cash beforehand to go and try to recoup it all with a few measly green stamps. Might I also suggest Scarborough, Peter One, Bouvet or Marion Island as ideal candidates for a free holiday in the sun. Reality is that it is far from being a free holiday, and most DXpeditioners spend nearly all of their time on the radio, just because some DXpeditioner wants a new one in the log. Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO It is a choice. If you don't donate, you will get a free card via the bureau. IMO, even that is pretty generous. What you want is fast service for no money. Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ragnar otterstad la...@yahoo.no wrote: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO 73 Rag http://tinyurl.com/c6g6g4k http://de.visittelemark.com/ or http://www.telemarkskanalen.no/nor/Kanalen where we are located riverside. Ubi Morsum verba tacent Fra: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Onsdag, 21. desember 2011 20.11 Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Are you sure they did it? Their webpage says this: Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends. http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation was that LoTW was a perk of donating. It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it. I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a new one. Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway. But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rag...@otterstad.dk rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: That's not the point at all Rag. And don't change the subject. --- The subject being: Why was the log not uploaded to LOTW immediately ?? The Russians at TX7M did it- very commendable IMHO 73 and Merry Christmas Rag la5he mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Lakewood, CO
Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
Not my experience with DJ6SI. An SASE did it every time. There are a few current managers that charge an extra few bucks but most are fine. My contributions have always been via INDEXA or NCDXF. 73, Les W2LK On 12/21/2011 4:46 PM, Barry wrote: F6FNU required a gratuity to get cards from any of the rare Africans he managed. I believe the same was true with DJ6SI. Barry W2UP On 12/21/2011 2:06 PM, Don Berger wrote: Out of ignorance I ask this question of the group - Having confirmed every entity on the list and never contributed anything in advance of receiving a confirmation, my experience leads me to believe there is no such thing as extortion to get confirmation. What am I missing? Are there/have there been such examples and if so, where and who? Don K1VSK - Original Message - From: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If no one donated, do you think any large DXpeditions would happen? Maybe you have a few hundred $ laying around but most hams don't. The donations make DXpeditions happen. Most hams are happy to donate. If you aren't then that's your problem. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying work this one OR ELSE! Most who do go do foot the bill for their own travel, lodging expenses and even meals. The other costs are what make up the most expensive part. If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, If you think it is a free holiday in the sun by all means organize your own DXpedition, raise the cash beforehand to go and try to recoup it all with a few measly green stamps. Might I also suggest Scarborough, Peter One, Bouvet or Marion Island as ideal candidates for a free holiday in the sun. Reality is that it is far from being a free holiday, and most DXpeditioners spend nearly all of their time on the radio, just because some DXpeditioner wants a new one in the log. Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO It is a choice. If you don't donate, you will get a free card via the bureau. IMO, even that is pretty generous. What you want is fast service for no money. Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ragnar otterstad la...@yahoo.no wrote: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO 73 Rag http://tinyurl.com/c6g6g4k http://de.visittelemark.com/ or http://www.telemarkskanalen.no/nor/Kanalen where we are located riverside. Ubi Morsum verba tacent Fra: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Onsdag, 21. desember 2011 20.11 Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Are you sure they did it? Their webpage says this: Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends. http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation was that LoTW was a perk of donating. It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it. I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a new one. Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway. But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rag...@otterstad.dk rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: That's not the point at all Rag. And don't change the subject. --- The subject being: Why was the log not uploaded to LOTW immediately ?? The Russians at TX7M did it- very commendable IMHO 73 and Merry Christmas Rag la5he mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat
Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
Not my experience with DJ6SI. An SASE did it every time. There are a few current managers that charge an extra few bucks but most are fine. My contributions have always been via INDEXA or NCDXF. 73, Les W2LK On 12/21/2011 4:46 PM, Barry wrote: F6FNU required a gratuity to get cards from any of the rare Africans he managed. I believe the same was true with DJ6SI. Barry W2UP On 12/21/2011 2:06 PM, Don Berger wrote: Out of ignorance I ask this question of the group - Having confirmed every entity on the list and never contributed anything in advance of receiving a confirmation, my experience leads me to believe there is no such thing as extortion to get confirmation. What am I missing? Are there/have there been such examples and if so, where and who? Don K1VSK - Original Message - From: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If no one donated, do you think any large DXpeditions would happen? Maybe you have a few hundred $ laying around but most hams don't. The donations make DXpeditions happen. Most hams are happy to donate. If you aren't then that's your problem. No one is holding a gun to your head and saying work this one OR ELSE! Most who do go do foot the bill for their own travel, lodging expenses and even meals. The other costs are what make up the most expensive part. If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, If you think it is a free holiday in the sun by all means organize your own DXpedition, raise the cash beforehand to go and try to recoup it all with a few measly green stamps. Might I also suggest Scarborough, Peter One, Bouvet or Marion Island as ideal candidates for a free holiday in the sun. Reality is that it is far from being a free holiday, and most DXpeditioners spend nearly all of their time on the radio, just because some DXpeditioner wants a new one in the log. Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO It is a choice. If you don't donate, you will get a free card via the bureau. IMO, even that is pretty generous. What you want is fast service for no money. Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ragnar otterstad la...@yahoo.no wrote: If you cannot foot the bill, why go ? If you expect the fraternity to pay , it is starting to look like a business to me. ( How to get a fee holiday in the sun, Contributions should be a choice, not a precondition for a confirmation IMHO 73 Rag http://tinyurl.com/c6g6g4k http://de.visittelemark.com/ or http://www.telemarkskanalen.no/nor/Kanalen where we are located riverside. Ubi Morsum verba tacent Fra: Ryan Jairam rjai...@gmail.com Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Onsdag, 21. desember 2011 20.11 Emne: Re: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Are you sure they did it? Their webpage says this: Donors and Sponsors will receive LoTW CFMs after the DXped ends. http://www.tx7m.com/sponsors.php Maybe they changed their minds afterwards but the initial expectation was that LoTW was a perk of donating. It is apparent that some don't realize the massive costs of a major DXpedition. It's not simply two guys taking a boat with a rig and a wire antenna. Some of these operations cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with that cost, there must be a means of recouping some of it. I have no problem with tossing a few bucks in the tip jar if I get a new one. Bureau is and likely will always be free. Many of them upload to LoTW after 1-2 years after the expedition ends anyway. But to expect everyone to spend tens or hundreds of thousands and then not expect to recoup some of those costs is just silly. 73 Ryan, N2RJ On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM, rag...@otterstad.dk rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: That's not the point at all Rag. And don't change the subject. --- The subject being: Why was the log not uploaded to LOTW immediately ?? The Russians at TX7M did it- very commendable IMHO 73 and Merry Christmas Rag la5he mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- -- Ryan A. Jairam --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat
Vedr: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW
With respect: When you are asked to make a contribution to have your QSOs uploaded to LOTW, what do you call that ? 73 Rag Fra: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Til: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sendt: Mandag, 19. desember 2011 22.04 Emne: RE: [DX-CHAT] ST0R-LOTW Not this old canard again. Nobody has to pay for a confirmation. Yes, I know there are individual cases where this has happened, that is not an absolute statement. But NONE of these recent big DXpeditions have, so far as I know, demanded renumeration in return for a confirmation. Have they asked? Yes. Well, there are expenses. But no one has demanded reimbursement, and in most cases, at best a DXpedition breaks even on postage and printing costs for QSL cards. If you don't want or need your card back quickly, wait on the bureau. Thus it has been, thus it shall be. 73, ron w3wn On 12/19/11, rag...@otterstad.dk wrote: My thanks to the many people who responded to my request for info re ST0R QSL's and LOTW credits. I appreciate your responses and info. John Owens - N7TK Celebrating over 50 Years in Ham Radio No. 1 Honor Roll It seems like some DXpeditions are turned into cashcows ! First we contribute individually or via our DX-club, then have to pay again for confirmation ! I never thought this was going to be a business! 73 merry Xmas Rag LA5HE ( since 1953 ) mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
