Re: [Fwd: RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW]

2007-08-28 Thread W2AGN
Bud Morin wrote: Thank you, Ron, for telling it like it is!! Bud Morin, K9ZT Bull! See Joe's message about the Ad Hoc committee. He is the third member I have heard who was shut down by the ARRL for proposing limitation on the Pactor robots. Ron is just preaching the propagnada of the

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-28 Thread W2AGN
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: There's a very simple solution. If and when a replacement for the Regulation by Bandwith petition is submitted, just include an exception limiting private mailbox robots (be they PACTOR III or anything else) to a small sub-band segment. The Headquarters

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-28 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)
Pay attention all you sheep that follow the League's Party line. Here is someone who HAS told it like it is. He is not the only member of that committee who was fed up. -- John - W2AGN John, I've heard you Pixx moan for 3 days about how bad the league is, but that's all you do is Pi_xx

Re: [Fwd: RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW]

2007-08-28 Thread Gerry Hohn
There must be a Bash ARRL reflector out there somewhere. Maybe this one can get back to it's purpose---DX. Gerry VE6LB - Original Message - From: W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [DX

RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW And more important, it is controlled by the ARRL., who are NOT friends of Amateur radio. John - W2AGN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)
At 09:22 PM 8/26/2007, you wrote: And more important, it is controlled by the ARRL., who are NOT friends of Amateur radio. John - W2AGN John, just WHO DO you consider a friend of amateur radio. In your response, please limit your discussion to the organization that IS a friend of amateur

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)
At 07:52 AM 8/27/2007, you wrote: Sadly, there is no such organization. That makes the ARRL no less of a tax-exempt publishing house, trying to make money off the shhep that will follow them anywhere. -- John - W2AGN John, that is exactly correct, and that is the reason I phrased my

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread W2AGN
Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: It is your choice John, whether or not to join, or even like the League. But to make such an inflammatory comment... what facts do you have to back up that opinion? 1. Their recent attempt at Regulation by Bandwidth which was a transparent attempt to make more room

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Zack Widup
I wonder if the people making anti-ARRL statements have even bothered to talk to any of the ARRL officials? And if not, why not? I met Joel W5ZN at the Dayton VHF banquet last year (2006). What a great guy! I've had numerous chats with Dave K1ZZ. I always seem to cross paths with my

RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
are going, you're going to have to do more than kvetch on a reflector. Or nothing will change. It's that simple. 73, ron w3wn -Original Message- From: W2AGN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread john
At 06:19 PM 8/27/2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: If you don't like the way things are going, you're going to have to do more than kvetch on a reflector. Right. You can vote with your feet, as I have after many yrs of supporting the league. John K5MO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback,

RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
There's a very simple solution. If and when a replacement for the Regulation by Bandwith petition is submitted, just include an exception limiting private mailbox robots (be they PACTOR III or anything else) to a small sub-band segment. The Headquarters decision makers will never stand

RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW There's a very simple solution. If and when a replacement for the Regulation by Bandwith petition is submitted, just include

RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-27 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
OK... before we go too far astray, let's get this thread back on track here. The issue of the thread is Use, or lack thereof, of Logbook of the World, and why or why not. Delving into the reasons why many are unhappy or worse with ARRL HQ is another subject, and frankly, it really does not

[Fwd: RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW]

2007-08-27 Thread Bud Morin
Thank you, Ron, for telling it like it is!! Bud Morin, K9ZT Original Message Subject:RE: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:19:12 -0400 From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org OK, well, let's

Re: [DX-CHAT] LBOTW

2007-08-26 Thread W2AGN
Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (08/26/2007 21:35) And u asked... LogBook Of The World why I do not use this great service: 1. I log onto old fashioned paper. 2. I choose to do other much more interesting things than data entry. 3. I find LBOTW very difficult to use. And I