Re: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times

2006-12-29 Thread nick cominos
The New York TimesI couldn't agree morewhere there is no instant 
gratification for the current society, there is no effort, no discipline, no 
persistence.
vy 73,
Nick W9UM


- Original Message - 
From: Barry
To: Ron Notarius W3WN
Cc: dx-chat List
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times


CW will die a slow death, at least in the US.  The no-code license is a dead 
end.  It will be the rare no-coder that takes the time and effort to learn 
CW and stick with it long enough to become proficient for on the air use 
(i.e., 25-30 WPM.)  As we OFs get older and disappear, nobody will be taking 
our place on the CW bands.

When I was in Macedonia last year, at the High Speed Telegraphy 
Championship, I was amazed at all the young kids there from eastern EU. 
Some of them are CW ops only, and not real hams, but if CW survives 
anywhere, that's where it will be.
Barry, W2UP

Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
  Much better of an article than I expected.  Thanks for the tip!

  What I don't understand, though, is this:  Why is the dropping of the code 
element for testing automatically seen by so many as the imminent demise of 
our use of the code?  Yes, testing will no longer be required, and yes, the 
exclusive CW bands have shrunk, and I'm sure in time the number of CW 
operators MAY drop... but then again, it may not...

  About 2 months ago, when I was struggling with a temporary vertical 
(wouldn't load on 30, that's another story), a friend, a recent Extra, 
called on the phone.  Told him I was trying to work a particular DX station 
on 30; he tuned in and worked him in 2 calls, the stinker.  Anyway, when we 
got back to talking, I told him I'd heard both ends of the QSO, so it was 
good; Randy asked me what software I was using to decode the signals, and I 
told him it was the organic one between my ears.  He was totally astounded 
that I was able to copy really fast code in my head!  (It was about 25 wpm 
or so, but that too is another story!)

  We talked about this again at the club christmas party 2 weeks ago.  Randy 
stopped using the computer as a crutch; now that he knows it can be done, 
he's starting to do it.  And he's finding out that he enjoys operating code 
even more!

  So... there's hope.  So why all the doom and gloom?

  Yes, the FCC handed us a lemon.  Want to make lemonade out of it?  (Me? 
Nah, find me some tequilla and salt instead... g)

  73
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf 
Of harris_ruben
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:44 AM
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Subject: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times


Well, we've made today's New York Times


n2ern


-- 

Barry Kutner, W2UP
Newtown, PA 


RE: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times

2006-12-27 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
The New York TimesMuch better of an article than I expected.  Thanks for the
tip!

What I don't understand, though, is this:  Why is the dropping of the code
element for testing automatically seen by so many as the imminent demise of
our use of the code?  Yes, testing will no longer be required, and yes, the
exclusive CW bands have shrunk, and I'm sure in time the number of CW
operators MAY drop... but then again, it may not...

About 2 months ago, when I was struggling with a temporary vertical
(wouldn't load on 30, that's another story), a friend, a recent Extra,
called on the phone.  Told him I was trying to work a particular DX station
on 30; he tuned in and worked him in 2 calls, the stinker.  Anyway, when we
got back to talking, I told him I'd heard both ends of the QSO, so it was
good; Randy asked me what software I was using to decode the signals, and I
told him it was the organic one between my ears.  He was totally astounded
that I was able to copy really fast code in my head!  (It was about 25 wpm
or so, but that too is another story!)

We talked about this again at the club christmas party 2 weeks ago.  Randy
stopped using the computer as a crutch; now that he knows it can be done,
he's starting to do it.  And he's finding out that he enjoys operating code
even more!

So... there's hope.  So why all the doom and gloom?

Yes, the FCC handed us a lemon.  Want to make lemonade out of it?  (Me?
Nah, find me some tequilla and salt instead... g)

73
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
harris_ruben
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:44 AM
  To: dx-chat List
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times


  Well, we've made today's New York Times


  n2ern


Re: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times

2006-12-27 Thread Barry
CW will die a slow death, at least in the US.  The no-code license is a 
dead end.  It will be the rare no-coder that takes the time and effort 
to learn CW and stick with it long enough to become proficient for on 
the air use (i.e., 25-30 WPM.)  As we OFs get older and disappear, 
nobody will be taking our place on the CW bands. 

When I was in Macedonia last year, at the High Speed Telegraphy 
Championship, I was amazed at all the young kids there from eastern EU.  
Some of them are CW ops only, and not real hams, but if CW survives 
anywhere, that's where it will be.

Barry, W2UP

Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:

Much better of an article than I expected.  Thanks for the tip!
 
What I don't understand, though, is this:  Why is the dropping of the 
code element for testing automatically seen by so many as the imminent 
demise of our use of the code?  Yes, testing will no longer be 
required, and yes, the exclusive CW bands have shrunk, and I'm sure in 
time the number of CW operators MAY drop... but then again, it may not...
 
About 2 months ago, when I was struggling with a temporary vertical 
(wouldn't load on 30, that's another story), a friend, a recent Extra, 
called on the phone.  Told him I was trying to work a particular DX 
station on 30; he tuned in and worked him in 2 calls, the stinker.  
Anyway, when we got back to talking, I told him I'd heard both ends of 
the QSO, so it was good; Randy asked me what software I was using to 
decode the signals, and I told him it was the organic one between my 
ears.  He was totally astounded that I was able to copy really fast 
code in my head!  (It was about 25 wpm or so, but that too is another 
story!)
 
We talked about this again at the club christmas party 2 weeks ago.  
Randy stopped using the computer as a crutch; now that he knows it can 
be done, he's starting to do it.  And he's finding out that he enjoys 
operating code even more!
 
So... there's hope.  So why all the doom and gloom? 
 
Yes, the FCC handed us a lemon.  Want to make lemonade out of it?  
(Me?  Nah, find me some tequilla and salt instead... g)
 
73


-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:44 AM
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Well, we've made today's New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/business/27morse.html?ex=1167886800en=b53d88e01be66bb6ei=5070emc=eta1

n2ern



--

Barry Kutner, W2UP 
Newtown, PA 



RE: [DX-CHAT] The New York Times

2006-12-27 Thread Charles Harpole
The NY Times again proved its grey lady of the newspapers distinction with 
a really great article about CW and ham radio The best I have ever seen 
on our beloved topic.

73

Charles Harpole,  HS0ZCW
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