Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
DX4WIN has two save locations: 1. The SAVE directory 2. The Secondary Backup Directory you can specify on the QSO tab of your preferences #1 should *always* be a local hard drive, preferably one connected via an IDE or (S)ATA interface, not a USB interface. You want your log to be saved as fast as possible. This minimizes the amount of time you need to wait between exiting DX4WIN and shutting down your computer. #2 saves at the same media speed as #1. If you use a USB flash drive, then it will take DX4WIN longer to write the files to the secondary save location. I gave up on using USB flash drives for backup years ago - they are just too darn slow for me. They tend to "lock up" DX4WIN the entire time the files are being written. I guess that's a good thing if you are planning on shutting down your computer. It's not so good if you want to quickly save your log and work someone else right away. Here's what I do: 1. I leave my computer on all the time. 2. I never exit DX4WIN unless I have to reboot. My log is always open, but saved when I am not there (see #3). 3. I try to remember to save (ALT-S) my log every time I step away from the operating position. 99.44% of the time at least. 4. My Secondary Backup Directory is actually DX4W805\SAVE2, i.e. the same local drive as the SAVE directory. 5. I use SyncBackSE to synchronize my entire DX4W805 directory to a location on my home's local area network (my development/office computer upstairs). This allows me to access the log from the other computer, as well as synchronize changes in both directions. I also synchronize my WriteLog directory the same way. 6. I have a local Acronis backup job on the ham computer that runs every night, to a USB-connected hard drive (Western Digital My Desk). Note that I only started this a week or two ago! I have never been unable to recover data from a crashed ham computer, i.e. I have never lost the hard drive. 7. I have a local Acronis backup job on the development computer that runs every night, to a USB-connected hard drive (Western Digital My Desk). 8. I use Carbonite to continuously backup my development computer to the cloud. I realize the above is almost certainly overkill, but I have never lost my log, only a rare QSO here or there, mostly due to writing the log from the development computer, and forgetting to reload it on the ham computer before logging a new QSO. When I wake up in the morning, I have at least five backup copies of my log, in addition to the copy in the SAVE directory: - SAVE2 directory - network path - ham computer backup - development computer backup - cloud I could probably run Carbonite on the ham computer, and get rid of the local Acronis backup, however, that costs more than my current solution. Local backups are good when you accidentally delete a lot of stuff and want to get it back quickly. Cloud backup is good for recovering a random file here or there that hasn't changed recently. Neither solution is ideal for recovering a recently-created file that was just deleted. I believe you can use Windows System Restore to do this, though I have not had a chance to try it yet. Check your PC - if System Restore is NOT enabled, you may want to do so. That's probably way too much information. Regardless of what you do, do *not* "log to" the Secondary Backup Directory directly! I don't know what will happen, but it probably isn't good. 73 - Jim AD1C p.s. my current plan of record is to replace my ham hard drive with a 500 GB SSD (which I already have in hand), and use the existing mechanical drive for backup, in place of the USB drive. My concern is that if I am operating a contest at 3 a.m. when the backup job starts, it will cause a noticiable slowdown that will interfere with my contest operating. Backing up to a SATA drive should be much faster and less noticable. Plus, if the computer crashes while operating, it will reboot much more quickly from an SSD. -- Jim Reisert AD1C,, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
Thanks Jim, I think I am somewhat redundant also. When I do a SAVE (ALT+S) my DXL and CTY file goes to DX4WIN/SAVE When I do a BACKUP (ALT+B) I don't know where my stuff goes. I should know, but I don't My SECONDARY BACKUP goes to a SD card. I have Carbonite, QUICKEN BACK UP, and my ISP has a cloud at COX.NET. These three run a back up on their own schedule at least once a day, one of them is once an hour. I have my DXL file saved on those back ups. I have to admit I really don't know where they go and how to retrieve them if I need to but feel confident if I ever need to retrieve them Carbonite, Quicken, and Cox will be able to help me. Carbonite also has a mirror image backup on an Ext HD. We have iPhones and have the Apple Cloud to save and share photos etc from the iPhone to the Apple Cloud. My in house WiFi (password protected) interconnects all my PC's laptops, tablets, iPhones, printer, and home security. I think I have it set to save my DXL file also. My system is not as fast or complete as yours. However, being an EE guy and not an IT I don't understand all the newer IT technology or programming that I should. I don't want to say I'm getting old (72) but the XYL teases me when we go to an Air Museum and the actual planes I used to fly are now static display museum pieces. Things have gone a long way since my first IBM Clone in the 1980's with the 5 1/2 inch floppy disk that you had to insert in the drive for the PC to boot up. Everything was DOS then and you had a mess of floopy disks to insert to run programs. A year or so later HD's got cheap enough I could afford to buy one. The memory size was very small but now I could boot up and run some programs from the HD without messing with the floppies. My first logging program was WJ20 and first contest logger was CT, both in the DOS format. Before that, I remember in contests hand logging onto a paper log with paper DUPE sheets spread across the room, one for each band. At that time, I was a test engineer at Rockwell Intl working with the space shuttle, MX Missile, and B1B Bomber avionics. From what I understand today's iPhones, etc, have more computing capability and power that the Space Shuttle computers. Good thing the Vulcans decided to share their technology with us humans. -Original Message- From: Jim Reisert AD1C [mailto:jjreis...@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:38 AM To: DX4WIN Reflector Cc: Alan Zack Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs DX4WIN has two save locations: 1. The SAVE directory 2. The Secondary Backup Directory you can specify on the QSO tab of your preferences #1 should *always* be a local hard drive, preferably one connected via an IDE or (S)ATA interface, not a USB interface. You want your log to be saved as fast as possible. This minimizes the amount of time you need to wait between exiting DX4WIN and shutting down your computer. #2 saves at the same media speed as #1. If you use a USB flash drive, then it will take DX4WIN longer to write the files to the secondary save location. I gave up on using USB flash drives for backup years ago - they are just too darn slow for me. They tend to "lock up" DX4WIN the entire time the files are being written. I guess that's a good thing if you are planning on shutting down your computer. It's not so good if you want to quickly save your log and work someone else right away. Here's what I do: 1. I leave my computer on all the time. 2. I never exit DX4WIN unless I have to reboot. My log is always open, but saved when I am not there (see #3). 3. I try to remember to save (ALT-S) my log every time I step away from the operating position. 99.44% of the time at least. 4. My Secondary Backup Directory is actually DX4W805\SAVE2, i.e. the same local drive as the SAVE directory. 5. I use SyncBackSE to synchronize my entire DX4W805 directory to a location on my home's local area network (my development/office computer upstairs). This allows me to access the log from the other computer, as well as synchronize changes in both directions. I also synchronize my WriteLog directory the same way. 6. I have a local Acronis backup job on the ham computer that runs every night, to a USB-connected hard drive (Western Digital My Desk). Note that I only started this a week or two ago! I have never been unable to recover data from a crashed ham computer, i.e. I have never lost the hard drive. 7. I have a local Acronis backup job on the development computer that runs every night, to a USB-connected hard drive (Western Digital My Desk). 8. I use Carbonite to continuously backup my development computer to the cloud. I realize the above is almost certainly overkill, but I have never lost my log, only a rare QSO here or there, mostly due to writing the log from the development computer, and forgetting to reload it on the ham computer before logging a new QSO. When I wake up in the morning, I hav
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Alan Zack wrote: > When I do a BACKUP (ALT+B) I don't know where my stuff goes. I should know, > but I don't DX4WIN has a background update feature. You can read about it in Help. When you make a change to your log, a countdown timer starts. You can see the effects of this timer by observing the word Modified in RED in the main DX4WIN window (not the logging window). When this timer counts down to zero, your log is written to a temporary backup file, and the message changes from RED to BLACK, indicating that a backup has been written. Backup (ALT-B) immediately resets the countdown timer to zero and writes the file. It does NOT save your log like ALT-S does. It simply bypasses the countdown timer. For more on backup files, see the "Data Protection" application note on http://dx4win.ad1c.us/ -- Jim Reisert AD1C,, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
There's nothing in particular wrong with using a SD Card for a backup. As long it's not on the same hard drive as your primary database, it's a step up from hoping that your hard drive never fails. Murphy's law: the hard drive WILL fail before you back up your only P5 QSO. I use Dropbox (www.dropbox.com) for storing my backup. That way, it's "in the cloud" so always backed up. (And it's stored on my PC, my Mac, and my Phone in case Dropbox ever closes shop.) Multiple redundant copies in the cloud means it's never lost. That's the value of the cloud - it becomes Somebody Else's Problem to store your data reliably. OK, I'm a "Cloud Ninja" (that's what it says on the sticker on my Mac!) but for the price (free!) it's a pretty good option. 73, -Rick On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Alan Zack <k7...@cox.net> wrote: > A long time ago I did a SAVE AS and changed the destination from the SAVE > folder to a thumb drive as a form of backup. I made some new QSO's and > saved > and closed DX4WIN and removed the thumb drive. Next time I opened DX4WIN it > told me it couldn't find my DXL file as it expected to find the thumb > drive. > I opened the SAVE window/folder and selected the DXL file found there. When > DX4WIN opened I noticed my most recent QSO's were missing. Then I realized > they had been saved in the thumb drive the last time I closed DX4WIN. I > copied the more recent DXL file in the thumb drive to the SAVE file/folder > and overwrote the older DXL. When I reopened DX4WIN all was FB. So if you > save your log DXL file somewhere else other than the SAVE folder as a means > of backup you may be creating a problem next time you open DX4WIN. > > From that lesson I now do the following when I want to copy/save my DXL > file > in another place for example a thumb drive. > I go to FILE and select SAVE AS (not SAVE). This opens the SAVE AS window. > I > find my DXL file (or any other I want to copy/backup). > I right click the DXL file and on the drop down menu select SEND TO>. I can > then select any other drive, etc, to send the file to, in my case mostly a > thumb drive. > > As another means of safely back up I use my PC SD slot. I leave a SD card > in > the PC SD slot all the time except when I might transfer photos from my > camera. I went to FILE/PREFERENCE/QSO. In that window there is a small > window SECONDARY BACK UP DEVICE. In that little window I put the location > of > my SD card, in my case it is named drive G: > So now my back up info is stored on the SD card. > > Just wondering if anyone finds any fault in using a SD card in this manner. > My PC SD slot is not used 99 per cent of the time. Why not put my DX4WIN > back up files on it? > > 73 & HNY > Alan K7ACZ > > > > -Original Message- > From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David > Kozinn, K2DBK > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:31 AM > To: Joe; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs > > Any chance you might have written to a log that's not in your "save" > folder? > > On 12/20/2015 7:53 AM, Joe wrote: > > I have a strange problem. > > > > > > > > I transferred my RAC Winter contest QSO's (made on December 19) from > > N1MM Logger this morning and that went fine. But when I looked at the > > logbook in DX4WIN 8.05, I noticed that all the QSOs I had logged > > between December 12 and December 18 were missing. These included > > contacts from the 10M contest last weekend and a bunch of **90IARU > > stations. I can recreate these from other sources, but I'm pretty > > active and I'm probably missing several dozen other QSOs. > > > > > > > > I tried arranging all the logs in the "save" folder in chronological > > order to see if I might have entered the missing QSOs in another log > > file, but there is nothing with a time stamp during the period from > > 12/12 through today other than the main file, its backup, and the RAC > contest file. > > > > > > > > I also looked in N1MM logger to see if I might have mistakenly > > entered the QSOs there, but I didn't. > > > > > > > > I've tried a global search for some callsigns I remember working > > during that period with no luck. > > > > > > > > I worked a PA3 earlier this morning and his QSO is also missing. > > > > > > > > My last external backup was in November, so it's of no help here. > > > > > > > > I'm running version 8.05 on a Samsung laptop with Windows 7. > > > > > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. > > > > > > > >
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
A long time ago I did a SAVE AS and changed the destination from the SAVE folder to a thumb drive as a form of backup. I made some new QSO's and saved and closed DX4WIN and removed the thumb drive. Next time I opened DX4WIN it told me it couldn't find my DXL file as it expected to find the thumb drive. I opened the SAVE window/folder and selected the DXL file found there. When DX4WIN opened I noticed my most recent QSO's were missing. Then I realized they had been saved in the thumb drive the last time I closed DX4WIN. I copied the more recent DXL file in the thumb drive to the SAVE file/folder and overwrote the older DXL. When I reopened DX4WIN all was FB. So if you save your log DXL file somewhere else other than the SAVE folder as a means of backup you may be creating a problem next time you open DX4WIN. >From that lesson I now do the following when I want to copy/save my DXL file in another place for example a thumb drive. I go to FILE and select SAVE AS (not SAVE). This opens the SAVE AS window. I find my DXL file (or any other I want to copy/backup). I right click the DXL file and on the drop down menu select SEND TO>. I can then select any other drive, etc, to send the file to, in my case mostly a thumb drive. As another means of safely back up I use my PC SD slot. I leave a SD card in the PC SD slot all the time except when I might transfer photos from my camera. I went to FILE/PREFERENCE/QSO. In that window there is a small window SECONDARY BACK UP DEVICE. In that little window I put the location of my SD card, in my case it is named drive G: So now my back up info is stored on the SD card. Just wondering if anyone finds any fault in using a SD card in this manner. My PC SD slot is not used 99 per cent of the time. Why not put my DX4WIN back up files on it? 73 & HNY Alan K7ACZ -Original Message- From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Kozinn, K2DBK Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:31 AM To: Joe; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs Any chance you might have written to a log that's not in your "save" folder? On 12/20/2015 7:53 AM, Joe wrote: > I have a strange problem. > > > > I transferred my RAC Winter contest QSO's (made on December 19) from > N1MM Logger this morning and that went fine. But when I looked at the > logbook in DX4WIN 8.05, I noticed that all the QSOs I had logged > between December 12 and December 18 were missing. These included > contacts from the 10M contest last weekend and a bunch of **90IARU > stations. I can recreate these from other sources, but I'm pretty > active and I'm probably missing several dozen other QSOs. > > > > I tried arranging all the logs in the "save" folder in chronological > order to see if I might have entered the missing QSOs in another log > file, but there is nothing with a time stamp during the period from > 12/12 through today other than the main file, its backup, and the RAC contest file. > > > > I also looked in N1MM logger to see if I might have mistakenly > entered the QSOs there, but I didn't. > > > > I've tried a global search for some callsigns I remember working > during that period with no luck. > > > > I worked a PA3 earlier this morning and his QSO is also missing. > > > > My last external backup was in November, so it's of no help here. > > > > I'm running version 8.05 on a Samsung laptop with Windows 7. > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. > > > > Tnx es 73, Joe K1JB > > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, David, K2DBK http://k2dbk.blogspot.com http://k2dbk.com twitter: @k2dbk __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
Duane, Just to avoid confusion that shud be ALT+S and ALT+B, not CTL -Original Message- From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Duane Calvin Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 9:16 AM To: 'David Kozinn, K2DBK'; 'Joe'; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs There is another, more sinister possibility. If you worked them, and didn't expressly do a save of the new data, then MS applied updates, causing a shutdown without saving, that can bite your log bigtime. I've gotten so as soon as an entry is made, I do a CTRL-S to save the log, and often a CTRL-B to back it up also. I've lost data from my logs a few times over the years and that is painful. 73, Duane Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac...@ac5aa.com -Original Message- From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Kozinn, K2DBK Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:31 AM To: Joe; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs Any chance you might have written to a log that's not in your "save" folder? On 12/20/2015 7:53 AM, Joe wrote: > I have a strange problem. > > > > I transferred my RAC Winter contest QSO's (made on December 19) from > N1MM Logger this morning and that went fine. But when I looked at the > logbook in DX4WIN 8.05, I noticed that all the QSOs I had logged > between December 12 and December 18 were missing. These included > contacts from the 10M contest last weekend and a bunch of **90IARU > stations. I can recreate these from other sources, but I'm pretty > active and I'm probably missing several dozen other QSOs. > > > > I tried arranging all the logs in the "save" folder in chronological > order to see if I might have entered the missing QSOs in another log > file, but there is nothing with a time stamp during the period from > 12/12 through today other than the main file, its backup, and the RAC contest file. > > > > I also looked in N1MM logger to see if I might have mistakenly > entered the QSOs there, but I didn't. > > > > I've tried a global search for some callsigns I remember working > during that period with no luck. > > > > I worked a PA3 earlier this morning and his QSO is also missing. > > > > My last external backup was in November, so it's of no help here. > > > > I'm running version 8.05 on a Samsung laptop with Windows 7. > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. > > > > Tnx es 73, Joe K1JB > > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, David, K2DBK http://k2dbk.blogspot.com http://k2dbk.com twitter: @k2dbk __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
Yep, you're right. Got 'em switched up. Must have been using WriteLog that week - hi! 73, Duane Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac...@ac5aa.com -Original Message- From: Alan Zack [mailto:k7...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 1:33 PM To: 'Duane Calvin'; 'David Kozinn, K2DBK'; 'Joe'; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs Duane, Just to avoid confusion that shud be ALT+S and ALT+B, not CTL -Original Message- From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Duane Calvin Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 9:16 AM To: 'David Kozinn, K2DBK'; 'Joe'; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs There is another, more sinister possibility. If you worked them, and didn't expressly do a save of the new data, then MS applied updates, causing a shutdown without saving, that can bite your log bigtime. I've gotten so as soon as an entry is made, I do a CTRL-S to save the log, and often a CTRL-B to back it up also. I've lost data from my logs a few times over the years and that is painful. 73, Duane Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac...@ac5aa.com -Original Message- From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Kozinn, K2DBK Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:31 AM To: Joe; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs Any chance you might have written to a log that's not in your "save" folder? On 12/20/2015 7:53 AM, Joe wrote: > I have a strange problem. > > > > I transferred my RAC Winter contest QSO's (made on December 19) from > N1MM Logger this morning and that went fine. But when I looked at the > logbook in DX4WIN 8.05, I noticed that all the QSOs I had logged > between December 12 and December 18 were missing. These included > contacts from the 10M contest last weekend and a bunch of **90IARU > stations. I can recreate these from other sources, but I'm pretty > active and I'm probably missing several dozen other QSOs. > > > > I tried arranging all the logs in the "save" folder in chronological > order to see if I might have entered the missing QSOs in another log > file, but there is nothing with a time stamp during the period from > 12/12 through today other than the main file, its backup, and the RAC contest file. > > > > I also looked in N1MM logger to see if I might have mistakenly > entered the QSOs there, but I didn't. > > > > I've tried a global search for some callsigns I remember working > during that period with no luck. > > > > I worked a PA3 earlier this morning and his QSO is also missing. > > > > My last external backup was in November, so it's of no help here. > > > > I'm running version 8.05 on a Samsung laptop with Windows 7. > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. > > > > Tnx es 73, Joe K1JB > > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, David, K2DBK http://k2dbk.blogspot.com http://k2dbk.com twitter: @k2dbk __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
There is another, more sinister possibility. If you worked them, and didn't expressly do a save of the new data, then MS applied updates, causing a shutdown without saving, that can bite your log bigtime. I've gotten so as soon as an entry is made, I do a CTRL-S to save the log, and often a CTRL-B to back it up also. I've lost data from my logs a few times over the years and that is painful. 73, Duane Duane Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac...@ac5aa.com -Original Message- From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Kozinn, K2DBK Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:31 AM To: Joe; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs Any chance you might have written to a log that's not in your "save" folder? On 12/20/2015 7:53 AM, Joe wrote: > I have a strange problem. > > > > I transferred my RAC Winter contest QSO's (made on December 19) from > N1MM Logger this morning and that went fine. But when I looked at the > logbook in DX4WIN 8.05, I noticed that all the QSOs I had logged > between December 12 and December 18 were missing. These included > contacts from the 10M contest last weekend and a bunch of **90IARU > stations. I can recreate these from other sources, but I'm pretty > active and I'm probably missing several dozen other QSOs. > > > > I tried arranging all the logs in the "save" folder in chronological > order to see if I might have entered the missing QSOs in another log > file, but there is nothing with a time stamp during the period from > 12/12 through today other than the main file, its backup, and the RAC contest file. > > > > I also looked in N1MM logger to see if I might have mistakenly > entered the QSOs there, but I didn't. > > > > I've tried a global search for some callsigns I remember working > during that period with no luck. > > > > I worked a PA3 earlier this morning and his QSO is also missing. > > > > My last external backup was in November, so it's of no help here. > > > > I'm running version 8.05 on a Samsung laptop with Windows 7. > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. > > > > Tnx es 73, Joe K1JB > > __ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, David, K2DBK http://k2dbk.blogspot.com http://k2dbk.com twitter: @k2dbk __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Missing QSOs
Any chance you might have written to a log that's not in your "save" folder? On 12/20/2015 7:53 AM, Joe wrote: I have a strange problem. I transferred my RAC Winter contest QSO's (made on December 19) from N1MM Logger this morning and that went fine. But when I looked at the logbook in DX4WIN 8.05, I noticed that all the QSOs I had logged between December 12 and December 18 were missing. These included contacts from the 10M contest last weekend and a bunch of **90IARU stations. I can recreate these from other sources, but I'm pretty active and I'm probably missing several dozen other QSOs. I tried arranging all the logs in the "save" folder in chronological order to see if I might have entered the missing QSOs in another log file, but there is nothing with a time stamp during the period from 12/12 through today other than the main file, its backup, and the RAC contest file. I also looked in N1MM logger to see if I might have mistakenly entered the QSOs there, but I didn't. I've tried a global search for some callsigns I remember working during that period with no luck. I worked a PA3 earlier this morning and his QSO is also missing. My last external backup was in November, so it's of no help here. I'm running version 8.05 on a Samsung laptop with Windows 7. Any ideas would be welcome. Tnx es 73, Joe K1JB __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, David, K2DBK http://k2dbk.blogspot.com http://k2dbk.com twitter: @k2dbk __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html