[Dx4win] Update on Updater
I was able to duplicate the DX4WIN Data Updater problem on a Windows XP SP2 system, where it always wants to update the updater program. After upgrading to Service Pack 3, the problem remained. There are still 98+ more Microsoft updates to download and install. I made a small change to the program that seems to have fixed it. Incidentally, this is the same change I made for the IOTA fullist.xml file last year. I have not tested this yet on my main computer which did NOT show the problem. In a little while, I'll upload a test version for people to try out. This won't be the final version, as there is one more small change I want to make (I hope you'll like it). Then hope this problem doesn't happen again in November when USA time changes back from daylight to standard time. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
I haven't been following the Updater thread too closely so I'm not sure what the problem has been. I haven't run the updater since December I think. I just ran it. It says I have version 4.6 and said I have the latest version. It proceeded to update 7 files. Checking my Save directory it looks like the files updated. I'm using XP Pro SP3. Alan N5NA On 3/15/2012 9:28 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
I am having the problem running under Vista. I do have the update problem every time I run the program. Even running the program back to back to back. So not sure if the hour timeframe you mention would do anything different. I'm away from home now (I'm a pilot for the airlines) and don't carry that computer with me on the road. Looking forward on what you find out. I can run it when I get back home this weekend to see how it works again. Brian - NX0X Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:28, Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
No problem here under Windos 7 64 bits Home Edition. Windows update is set to automatic so every fix has installed. 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar On 15/03/2012 11:51, Brian Bird wrote: I am having the problem running under Vista. I do have the update problem every time I run the program. Even running the program back to back to back. So not sure if the hour timeframe you mention would do anything different. I'm away from home now (I'm a pilot for the airlines) and don't carry that computer with me on the road. Looking forward on what you find out. I can run it when I get back home this weekend to see how it works again. Brian - NX0X Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2012, at 7:28, Jim Reisert AD1Cjjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C,jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6969 (20120315) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
Jim, I had not updated the updater since the one dated 5/2011 and that one was not causing any problems. I updated to the latest version and I now see the need to update issue each time. Running XP Home SP3. John W9ILY Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:28:47 -0600 From: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater To: DX4WIN Reflector dx4win@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: cak-n8j51mqyksf7bnhijx358gjt7u8aaiblca+kkoc8cxpf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
The joys of maintaining software. Nothing seems to change does it? This was a typical problem in the 60's, 70's, 80's, etc. Back in the dark ages prior to 1990, people used to change whole operating systems when they released a new computer. Now the computer stays the same and they just change the operating system. Actually, things are better on a percentage basis, but we all are doing more things so we are behind in terms of absolute numbers of challenges. 73, Tod, K0TO On 3/15/12 8:28 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
and…… here comes Win8 :( Chaz W4GKF On Mar 15, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Tod Olson wrote: The joys of maintaining software. Nothing seems to change does it? This was a typical problem in the 60's, 70's, 80's, etc. Back in the dark ages prior to 1990, people used to change whole operating systems when they released a new computer. Now the computer stays the same and they just change the operating system. Actually, things are better on a percentage basis, but we all are doing more things so we are behind in terms of absolute numbers of challenges. 73, Tod, K0TO On 3/15/12 8:28 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Good news: I pulled out my laptop running Windows XP which is fully up-to-date on fixes and I can duplicate the problem there too. Bad news: The fix I tried, which makes the program work on Windows XP, does NOT work on Windows 7. 1. If you have the update problem, were you running Windows XP or Windows Vista/7? 2. Does anyone running Windows XP *NOT* have the problem? This is also important information. I know the Perl libraries have some issues with Daylight Savings Time. I thought I had fixed this last fall, but apparently not. It may not be fully fixable without re-writing the program using a Microsoft compiler, which I just don't have time to do. Maybe the fix is something like if the file on the web sit differs *MORE* than one hour from the file on the computer, then it needs updating. I hadn't thought of this as a possible solution until right now. This means if I release updates, they must be more then one hour apart. I think I can live with this restriction. Thanks - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Update on Updater
No mas! I have enough responses, thanks. I have a fix in the works, I just need to test it when I get home. I'll try to release the new updater some time tonight (Friday UTC). If your .MAS1 file keeps updating over and over again, that's the same daylight savings time problem. The only file that seems to be consistently correct (not updated) is the fullist.xml file from RSGB for IOTA, maybe because it's coming from a different server. That file did not need a special Perl routine (Win32::UTCFileTime) to work around Windows DST bugs. However, this routine may not take care of all cases. The fix I have will. - Jim -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
