[Fwd: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN and Winkey]
I am forwarding this message because I forgot to copy the DX4WIN list when I originally sent it. I wonder if anyone else has an opinion on the differences in keystrokes for the DX4WIN keyboard when going between with and w/o WinKey? 73, Joe Larry, thanks for your input and I was meaning to comment further on this subject. Actually, the changes that were made at your request seem to have nothing to do with the differences. (Frankly, I didn't know about the additional prosigns until I reread the HELP files when I started using WinKey with DX4WIN. I don't know in what version they were added. I had wanted them too, but had made do without them. I am using them now.) I went back and checked the N4PY program with WinKey, and the prosigns are different again there. Carl uses: - for BT + for AR $ for SK ^ for KN * for AA However, I believe Carl still uses the Orion internal keyer even with WinKey, but I'm not sure. (I am in the middle of reviewing the WinKey dox.) It may be that the prosigns are not fixed in the WinKey firmware. If so, it would be a major improvement for DX4WIN if the prosigns for both keyboard routines were made identical. Then one could switch between them without much thought. 73, Joe Larry Gauthier (K8UT) wrote: Joe, I may be responsible for some of the CW keyboard confusion. I had requested that Paul insert additional prosign characters into DX4WINs internal character set. As of 7.x, the following prosigns are supported: KN = go ahead only, keyboard AS = wait, keyboard HH = error, keyboard : AC = email @, keyboard @ I do not use Winkey, but wonder if the new prosigns are confusing what Winkey gets from the keyboard? -larry K8UT - Original Message - From: Joe Giacobello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX4WIN dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 13:43 Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN and Winkey I just got version 7.02 working with Winkey, and it seems to work FB. However, the single key shortcuts for the CW symbols are different from the original DX4WIN keyboard. ! and * are inoperative. = and @ still send BT and WR, but sends SK, sends AR and : sends KN. Also, the speed changes with - and + are 5 WPM rather than the normal 2 WPM for DX4WIN. I presume that these features are hard wired into the WinKey firmware. Except on rare occasions I had few timing problems with the original DX4WIN keyboard, but I did have problems using the N4PY keyboard on the Orion before TT made the latest firmware changes. (The N4PY software used the Orion's internal keyer.) It turns out that I now can run the DX4WIN keyboard on an LPT port and the N4PY keyboard with WinKey on a COM port simultaneously. I am not sure how useful that is, but it may be of interest to some. However, don't try to get both programs to access WinKey. It causes a headache for DX4WIN which requires a restart to return to normal behavior. 73, Joe ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Fwd: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN and Winkey]
Thanks for the input Erkki. I like your wishlist request too, and I'd also be interested in that Windows utility. However, it seems to make sense to not have to memorize a whole different set of keystrokes when one goes between WinKey and the stand alone DX4WIN kbrd. OTOH, I have been informed that other persons use WinKey with other kbrd software and are reluctant to change to DX4WIN's scheme. Your suggestion turns a lose-lose to a win-win situation. 73, Joe Erkki Heikkinen wrote: I am forwarding this message because I forgot to copy the DX4WIN list when I originally sent it. I wonder if anyone else has an opinion on the differences in keystrokes for the DX4WIN keyboard when going between with and w/o WinKey? 73, Joe Joe, At present Winkey can produce any prosigns or national characters by merging present characters, (i.e. merging K and N would be -.--.). However, this has to be coded by DX4Win as the user cannot do it on the fly. When upgrading to Winkey I lost Scandinavian special characters (? = .-.- and ? = ---.) which are coded OK in the DX4Win integral keyer, but if I need them I can switch Winkey off. On my wish list is a setup matrix where all the characters could be mapped according to anyone's wishes and keyboard layout. Also, there is a Windows utility to change any key codes to any others - however I cannot remember the name of this program. If someone can point me to this utility I would like to see if I can run it when starting DX4Win and then release it from memory when closing DX4Win. 73 Erkki OH2BF From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 24 18:50:31 2006 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul van der Eijk) Date: Wed May 24 18:56:29 2006 Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN prosigns In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree that a generic prosign configuration utility will be the best solution. --Paul At 12:42 PM 5/24/2006, Joe Giacobello wrote: Thanks for the input Erkki. I like your wishlist request too, and I'd also be interested in that Windows utility. However, it seems to make sense to not have to memorize a whole different set of keystrokes when one goes between WinKey and the stand alone DX4WIN kbrd. OTOH, I have been informed that other persons use WinKey with other kbrd software and are reluctant to change to DX4WIN's scheme. Your suggestion turns a lose-lose to a win-win situation. 73, Joe Erkki Heikkinen wrote: I am forwarding this message because I forgot to copy the DX4WIN list when I originally sent it. I wonder if anyone else has an opinion on the differences in keystrokes for the DX4WIN keyboard when going between with and w/o WinKey? 73, Joe Joe, At present Winkey can produce any prosigns or national characters by merging present characters, (i.e. merging K and N would be -.--.). However, this has to be coded by DX4Win as the user cannot do it on the fly. When upgrading to Winkey I lost Scandinavian special characters (? = .-.- and ? = ---.) which are coded OK in the DX4Win integral keyer, but if I need them I can switch Winkey off. On my wish list is a setup matrix where all the characters could be mapped according to anyone's wishes and keyboard layout. Also, there is a Windows utility to change any key codes to any others - however I cannot remember the name of this program. If someone can point me to this utility I would like to see if I can run it when starting DX4Win and then release it from memory when closing DX4Win. 73 Erkki OH2BF ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Paul van der Eijk (KK4HD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dx4win.com
