[Dynapi-Dev] Dynamic Loading.

2001-02-17 Thread Raymond Smith
While I agree that the WebOS solution is overkill for the DynAPI. The Loadpanel approach is not the most solid bridge to deliver dynamic (dynamic being defined as 'dynamic server/client interaction') content. I think we need to explore alternatives/improvements to the glue between the DynAPI and

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] new DynDocument (again)

2001-02-17 Thread Richard Bennett
You can see this example live here: Pascal_Bestebroer_Dynacore_Examples http://www.richardinfo.com/?menu=examples&node=1 - Original Message - From: "Michael Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] new DynDo

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Jeff
Excellent. I think it's a great idea. Jeff Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Rainwater wrote: > I put a demo site at http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ of the type > > of site we could use for the main page. This would allow the site to > be a bit more dynamic and up to date. > > So what

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Richard Bennett
I put up some ftp space here a while back, which is free for all, do what you want here: ftp.dynapi.f2s.com username: dynapi password: dynapi url: http://www.dynapi.f2s.com/dynapi/ It also supports PHP/Perl-cgi and Database. Cheers, Richard Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.richardinfo.com (Everyth

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] setHTML and Events

2001-02-17 Thread nicola
in CVS line 104 ,105 of events.js r there to fix the problem for ie and ns 6 for ns 4 there is no problem coz of the way events happen ciao Y > > What fix was that?? > > 8an > > ___ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.source

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Henrik Våglin
What's your problem with ccreation keyevents extension, eh? ;) Which system, platform & browser (version) are you using and7or getting what error. If you're refering to the one at richard's site I updated the distro today and posted an open link to download it from (on xdrive.com) on the help m

Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Robert Rainwater
I forgot to say that it supports themes, so maybe I can build a DynAPI based theme for it. -- // Robert Rainwater On 2/17/2001, 5:02:04 PM EST, Richard wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site": > It's definitely a lot more dynamic on the database side, and a big > improvement, but why not use som

Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Robert Rainwater
I didnt change the default template any. I was just trying to give everyone an idea. I welcome anyone to come up with the design. Since its template based anyway, it could easily be changed to use some DynAPI components. -- // Robert Rainwater On 2/17/2001, 5:02:04 PM EST, Richard wrote abo

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Richard Bennett
It's definitely a lot more dynamic on the database side, and a big improvement, but why not use some DynAPI code? wouldn't the main menu look good made with list.js? The opensource site I've always regarded as a nice example is www.php.net Richard. - Original Message - From: "Robert Rain

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Noticed that the sunewave doesn't work and also the ccreation.ext.keyevents.htm 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Henrik Våglin
Looks mighty good. It should be a boost having a community site like this where we could all post our comments, links and widgets(no?), even those of us that aren't amongst the core developers. might take away some of the load on the mailing-lists too (especially the obvious redundancy). I say

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
Very nice dude! While yer at it, how about gathering stats from visiters? Just a thought.. I would be willing to put a database/asp setup at www.allthewhile.com to store the data - Original Message - From: "Robert Rainwater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DynAPI Development List" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
Thank you, I'll let y'all know what I find.. ( A little third-party testing never hurt right?) - Original Message - From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer > Included

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] setHTML and Events

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
What fix was that?? 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] setHTML and Events

2001-02-17 Thread nicola
but this shouldn't happen with the fix made in the events.js even if u have text or an image it should be working I never had that problem ! ciao Y > Sounds to me like they put some text in an said text started blocking mouse > events > (think DynAPI 1 label object) > - Original Message

[Dynapi-Dev] Demo Site

2001-02-17 Thread Robert Rainwater
I put a demo site at http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ of the type of site we could use for the main page. This would allow the site to be a bit more dynamic and up to date. So what do ya think? -- // Robert Rainwater -- DynAPI Snapshots: http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Included in the zip yet again tcanvas.js and browser.js and the test for DynLayer and TCanvas with nesting and without called: stress.dynlayer.create nested wtime.htm stress.dynlayer.create wtime.htm stress.canvas.create nested wtime.htm stress.canvas.create wtime.htm 8an tcanvas.zip

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
I'd like to see your canvas.. and your test files, the whole she-bang. Later Doug - Original Message - From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer > For the stress tests

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] remove Node

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
[sounding quite shocked, and downright confused] Win 16?!?! Are we supporting Win 16? - Original Message - From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dynapi-Dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:36 AM Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] remove Node > Why do we only us

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] remove Node

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
No i'm just saying that ms supports it in ie5 for win16. check the msdn http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/methods/removenode .asp 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dyna

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
For the stress tests in DynLayer or with canvas? 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
What I'm telling you is that you don't need all that. My code makes it so much faster with so little optimization (just passing the create responsibility). 8an

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] mousedown in ns4 /mac

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
How about over-writing the context menu, you can do that right? Use a timer, if the user holds the mouse down for 20 seconds, THEN fire the menu? Just a though (and a loose one at that) - Original Message - From: "Michael Bürge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
  - Original Message - From: "Bart Bizon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: SV: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer It does make sense to split up browser specific code... the advantages are any...but that has already been d

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
please send the file! - Original Message - From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer > Did a stress test with nested layers created like this (will send file if > you wa

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer ( I have no life : ) )

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
> never seen a C128 upclose, It looked pretty much like a c64, but less 'rounded' more 'angular' > but I dare to say that nothing ever invented was better then the C64... I think the first amiga might challenge that. :-) > of a PC.. even the 16color (hardware limited and palette set) could

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
Seriously! Someone on this list said that they 'found a solution' to the mem-leak problem. But that they won't share without more testing. DUDE! this is an opensource project. The whole point of an Opensource project is that you get to have many minds helping you at once.. If you have found a solu

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] setHTML and Events

2001-02-17 Thread Doug Melvin
Sounds to me like they put some text in an said text started blocking mouse events (think DynAPI 1 label object) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] setHTML and Events > how did you make

[Dynapi-Dev] remove Node

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Why do we only use removeNode in the delete of a layer only on IE5 on win32 it is supposedly supported unix and max and win16 too? 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Tried with running 3 times in a row. DynAPI - third time 14 ms and change Canvas - third time 66000 ms and change 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Did a stress test with nested layers created like this (will send file if you want) create 5 layers in each layer create 5 more repeat. This means that the whole thing creates 3125 layers DynAPI version = 59 seconds and change Canvas version = 28 seconds and change this on a PII 700 with 256 RAM

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Pascal, added all of the set styles and still same time exactly. 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Inheriting

2001-02-17 Thread Pascal Bestebroer
please note that Dan agreed when we created this inheriting, because it's sufficient enough for our DynAPI needs. Also note that he stated they needed to do some more advanced dynamic-loading (seeing as it's trying to be an OS that needs more control over things then a dynapi) so they needed alot

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] mousedown in ns4 /mac

2001-02-17 Thread Michael Bürge
i just found out that this breaks something else. after adding the suggested line to events.js, normal links ( From: Michael Buerge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:29:33 +0100 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] mousedown in ns4 /mac >

[Dynapi-Dev] Inheriting

2001-02-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Just wanted to make sure you took notice that Dan Stienman the guru decided to add his own inheriting because how badly js did it's inheriting. 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

SV: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Bart Bizon
It does make sense to split up browser specific code... the advantages are any... but that has already been discussed to death... do let's not get into that... Well, there are so many optimizations that can be done, so it's hard to mention them all at once... but that's true for almost any large

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Interactive FAQ

2001-02-17 Thread Nuno Ferreira
Brilliant! And if the "faqomatic" can produce a dump list of the faq, so you guys can always include it in the release docs, then it's perfect! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Rainwater Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Fevereiro de 2001 20

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer ( I have no life : ) )

2001-02-17 Thread Pascal Bestebroer
man I feel sorry for you.. really do :) I actually still play some C64 games now and then (emulated) never seen a C128 upclose, but I dare to say that nothing ever invented was better then the C64... no pentium can even come close to the horse power squeezed into such a tiny machine, running on

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer ( I have no life : ) )

2001-02-17 Thread Michael Pemberton
but what do you do if all you can do is get your hands on a c128 and are forced to "go 64"? I am quite angry with myself that I am even sending this. I spent too much time playing with my old Vic20 / C64 / C128. btw: do you know which of the 8 colors was lost when the vic twenty was upgraded t

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] new DynDocument (again)

2001-02-17 Thread Michael Pemberton
I found the attched code as part of an old dynacore release (2000.11.12). It may need a bit or tweaking to make it work with the latest dynapi release. (just check the method names etc.) If you have any problems, I can look into it further for you. Richard Emberson wrote: > Michael Pemberton w

[Dynapi-Dev] [Bug #131669] CreateLayer problem with Netscape 6

2001-02-17 Thread noreply
Bug #131669, was updated on 2001-Feb-09 01:57 Here is a current snapshot of the bug. Project: DynAPI 2 Category: Browser-Specific Issue Status: Closed Resolution: Works For Me Bug Group: None Priority: 5 Submitted by: nobody Assigned to : nobody Summary: CreateLayer problem with Netscape 6 Detai

[Dynapi-Dev] [Bug #132422] Layers not showing up in netscape 6

2001-02-17 Thread noreply
Bug #132422, was updated on 2001-Feb-14 15:08 Here is a current snapshot of the bug. Project: DynAPI 2 Category: Browser-Specific Issue Status: Closed Resolution: Invalid Bug Group: None Priority: 5 Submitted by: wessto Assigned to : nobody Summary: Layers not showing up in netscape 6 Details: t

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Pascal Bestebroer
Note that I'm only splitting browser specific code, not complete functions into seperate files (something I'm strongly against) You shouldn't split up source code that is created to make split-up-browsers to work as one.. doesn't make sense, and will most likely cause problems when supporting cros

SV: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Bart Bizon
Yes... and now we are again getting into the discussion of a split browser API. What you are proposing is taking a step in that direction.. I would take it on step further... and split up the code in different files alltogether (to minimize downloaded code and add clarity) ... but let's not dwel

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer

2001-02-17 Thread Pascal Bestebroer
I'm not saying the OS should take care of it, I'm saying the parser (or other compiler) should have taken care of inserting memory-freeing. Borland compilers make sure that when the program is closed the used memory is freed (pointers, objects, etc..) This is something the browser should also do,