>
> IE can't put Java in any "new" products as a result of the law suit they
> lost recently with Sun. They can only support Java in existing products
> for
> 7 years. Whistler (Windows X) and IE6 are Java clean.
then why does IE6 run java applets?
and why do the internet options in IE6 list
Becuase I've installed it... I just wanted my stuff to work, and it was a
simple fix. I'm not saying that any of you HAVE to focus on rewriting DynAPI
to go perfectly with IE6, but I think at least we should patch it so that it
works to a certain degree. Anyway, we will probably have to modify it
No you can't install both. IE is intergrated into the OS which prevents
multiple versions, unlike NS which allows them. If you find you really do
need IE5.5 you can always uninstall IE6.
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To: [EMAI
Because it is always nice to get a head start by trying things before
they are released. Anyway, it seems to work just fine with everything I've
tired so far. Same you can't same the same about NS6 which is a release
product.
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One bug I noticed with IE6 so far is that the cursor flickers with the clock
icon during path animations.
Ray
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Category: DynAPI-Event
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>Status: Closed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Michael Pemberton (mpember)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymo
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Submitted By: Christof Pohl (chripo)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (n
quoth Michael Pemberton:
>> The problem with posting large amounts of data remains. 3k is not really
alot
>> of room.
I usually find it to be quite a bit of room for sending data to the server.
There is a much larger limit for receiving data from the server (not sure
what it is exactly - the si
RPC has been "reborn" so to speak. With the advent of XML-RPC alot of the
older limitation that stained RPC functionality are no longer there.
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From: "Brent Ashley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-
"there is NO reason to stop using java"
The last thing any quality developer should be doing is selling and
promoting a platform that is inherently dysfunctional in the "very near
future", unless of course you bill your clients to re-engineer their
applications to recomply with ever changing
The problem with posting large amounts of data remains. 3k is not really alot
of room.
Also, the problem of syncronization remains. with the java version, the method
does not return until after the data is downloaded. The js version requires
looping and usch to stop it from wontinuing before t
The only thing that was changed in the DynAPIX is now the NS6 is using
the precreation. NS4 is the only browser that doesnt support the
creation of all the children at once.
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On 3/27/2001, 11:31:18 AM EST, Eytan wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] DynAPIX":
> Is it my imagination o
Sorry, I'm late jumping back into this thread. Thanks to Jim for pointing
out the thread activity.
I'm somewhat confused by the Java discussion. The whole point of my JSRS
remote scripting library was to obviate the need of a Java applet as used by
Microsoft's Remote Scripting. If you use JSRS
IE can't put Java in any "new" products as a result of the law suit they
lost recently with Sun. They can only support Java in existing products for
7 years. Whistler (Windows X) and IE6 are Java clean.
Sun recently launched a "plug-in" for Java with a rather "limp" marketing
push. I downloade
First of all I don't know where you guys heard of this 18 MB VM and no Java
support in IE. I personally hate Java as a client side language (and in
general too) and I also know from recent experience that you can't trust
people to allow java on their systems. So I agree there needs to be another
w
Now that dragging and the scrollpane/viewport seem to be fixed, the
pushpanel is not working correctly. If you look at the
dynapi.gui.pushpanel.html example, the second pushpanel does not load
the label that is passes in the constructor. This is similar to what
scrollpane was doing, but for the p
Java on the client side is very rare. In most cases "users" won't
understand why the site doesn't work, only that it is broken and in
frustration they will leave. Also, I cheer the challenge of selling any
client on the idea of implementing a solution that only embraces 70% (and
reducing) of the
Thats the whole point of the new code. If you look carefully, it is
using the dom, but it only does one insert, instead of inserting all
of the children separately.
Creating an element with createElement may be faster, but try creating
an element and its 50 children with createElement. Thats 5
What is the percentage of sites that require the VM now? I think its very
very low. But yet, more demanding client side functionality is inevitable.
Most clients today are more powerful then the servers the access! And the
only multibrowser solution now and for future functionality is DynAPI!
---
why are we even worrying about IE6?
It's not an official release..
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From:
Daniel
Holmen
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:07
PM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 Browser.js
temporary fix
IE 6 throws an error elm.style is
does anyone know if IE6 can be installed concurrently with other versions?
I can not afford to loose IE 5.5 (I KNOW it works) and I do not
trust IE6 enough yet to go with it alone.
They haven't even provided a service pack yet!!
:-)
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there is a widget called the scroll-pane..
it's a single layer with scrollbars that acts much like a standard frame..
It may take some work to make the old Scrollpane work with the current code,
but it may be worth a shot
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From: "Alexander Alexandrov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
My thought on this (the 18mb java VM download)
is this: The liekly hood of someone getiing away with NOT downloading the VM
and yet still enjoying free access to all they love on the net is very slim.
The odds are pretty good that 8 in 10 users will have to DL the VM sooner or
later,
or just give
if a url won't do, try cookies, or mutiple 'posts' (and save to session
variable
)
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Loading External Content (Remote Scripting)
> Have
this person has a very good point.
We need a more solid attempt to document what is being done.
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] [ dynapi-Feature Requests-406723 ] wipe to , glide to
> Featu
I am also in need of a solid server-side companion, and I too have ASP with
Jscript experience..
Let me know if I can help you boys out
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Load
So with all this talk of DOM this and DOM that we don't take advantage of
DOM. And btw I think that creating elements in IE5 with createElement should
be faster. I'll have to test.
8an
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I'm puzzled. I've tried with several combinations and I can't find any
logical pattern. Sometimes it leaks, sometimes it doesn't
Eytan Heidingsfeld wrote:
> Just to check if it is a Event Listener bug or a mouse listener bug why
> don't you try my simple events with a mouse event (something
The layer's HTML tag, as well as those of its children are converted into a big
HTML string that is inserted as a block of text. Then elements are assigned for
those created. This is the precreation stuff Dan introduced several months ago.
BEfore that each children was created as a node, being muc
Just to check if it is a Event Listener bug or a mouse listener bug why
don't you try my simple events with a mouse event (something like if the
mouse if over change color).
8an
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Is it my imagination or does DynAPIX not use createElement for IE5 and NN6?
8an
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Battle diary: 2001-03-27
Continuing with my struggle against memory leaks, I've setup a simple page
where a layer is moved via a setInterval method. I'm not using any
thread.js to make it simple. The example does not leak. If I have
mouseevents on that layer, it leaks a lot. I don't know if it is
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Status: Deleted
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Submitted By: Christof Pohl (chripo)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobo
And how many people are going to do that?
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2001 12:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 Browser.js temporary fix
Take IE6 beta over to MSNBC Technology Font and see it throw errors. :O)
Y
I think I'll do a bit more IE 6 testing and fixing before I do that. DynAPI
has to be rewritten a bit more for full IE6 support. This was just a quick
and ugly patch to get things started (and working).
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> Well I guess you could always uninstall it!
>
> -Original Me
Take IE6 beta over to MSNBC Technology Font and see it throw errors. :O)
You would have thought M$ would have shored it's own ships up before setting
sail...
The Wonderboys strike again.
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Sent: Tuesda
I
don't know if this was mailed here, or to another list, but a good approach to
having multiple copies of IE on one machine is to get a copy vmware or something
similar, and run a seperate copy of windows and IE in vmware. At least you don't
need seperate machines for testing then, you just
Well I guess you could always uninstall it!
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Sent: 27 March 2001 22:12
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Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 Browser.js temporary fix
> Does the IE6 beta overwrites your older version of IE?
Yes, unfortunat
> Does the IE6 beta overwrites your older version of IE?
Yes, unfortunately. I didn't think MS had the guts to release a BETA that
overwrites a "stable" release. If I had known I don't know if I would have
downloaded it.
But at least I got to fix my current project to work with IE6 this way.
--
I Dl'ed it. My site ran fine with patch
also.
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Michael Towers
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:58
AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 Browser.js
temporary fix
Yes! Unfortunately it's not like NS in that you ca
Web OS basically leverages XML/XSL, XHTML and Javascript on the client
leading to Java(servlets, EJB's,JSP,XSP)/Corba/RMI-IIOP middleware on the
server to translate and pass data signals and responses to the server. For
NS4 we may need to develop a circular response que to live within the
form-fa
Yes! Unfortunately it's not like NS in that you can have multiple
versions on the same machine. However it does seem to be fairly stable as
far as I can tell from the brief testing I have done.
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11:
Does
the IE6 beta overwrites your older version of IE?
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Thanks. It now
Thanks. It now seems to work just fine for me.
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[Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 Browser.js temporary fix
IE 6 throws an error elm.style is null or not an
object. Here
IE 6 throws an error elm.style is null or not an
object. Here is a small VERY temporary fix to get things working in IE6 (at
least it works for me). IE6 seems to act more like ie5 than ie5.5, so here's my
new browser.js:
---
/* DynAPI
Distribution Browser Class
The DynAPI Distribu
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but after a few updates, LoadPanel now
works in IE5, NS4, and NS6 on both Mac and PC, and IE4 PC (yes, it does work
in IE5 for Mac!). While LoadPanel certainly has it's limitations, because of
it's simplicity it's quite easy to get working in lots of browsers.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/download/preview/ie6/ie6preview.asp
/martin
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Again this thread is completly off track. I was just talking about making it
lighter and it will also help the person (forgot who) who NS4 loses has code
because it is too busy creating a layer.
8an
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You can do this without putting the script tags after the closing html and
body tag, as long as they appear after your preloading code it works. I had
to bootstrap the dynapi.js in the head of the document for this to work in
Netscape 6, but I've otherwise had no problems.
> >
> > Some preloadin
> I have a feeling you are talking about the third example. I think you have
> the same problem as I did. TOO MANY LAYERS. The browser just works slow
> with so many layers. My solution was(is) to get around and write a table
> for IE5 and NN6 only this table will use DOM. Haven't done it yet but
Plus all his layers are using dynamic holders that have to calculate X,Y
before rendering. Also, appears moving the 3rd example forces the whole
array to recalculate. The third and first examples were far to painfull on
our P200 test machine to be commercially functional.
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