[e-gold-list] Re: Security!!

2002-10-07 Thread James M. Ray
Excellent questions, Dan. I'll sum up one particularly-easy answer to number three in a single URL: http://www.apple.com/switch/ My PowerBook is not perfect, but I regularly run anti-virus and don't click where I shouldn't, and I've been very happy with it. A cheaper option is a used iBook,

[e-gold-list] Re: Security!!

2002-10-07 Thread Jay W.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- secure computing is kind of a way-of-life. there is no silver bullet that will save the day - unless you are willing to give up the use of a computer ;) here are some guidelines that may help you: a) don't open email attachments b) only enter sensitive

[e-gold-list] Re: Security!!

2002-10-07 Thread Joris Bontje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 10:08:22AM -0400, Jay W. wrote: secure computing is kind of a way-of-life. there is no silver bullet that will save the day - unless you are willing to give up the use of a computer ;) here are some guidelines that may

[e-gold-list] Re: Security news

2002-08-31 Thread Ed Williams
Hi All, patches are at http://www.microsoft.com/technet Does anyone have the actual link to the patch? When I look for it @M$ I get a headache... Thank you, Ed --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Advisory - PGP

2002-07-11 Thread Ian Green
Hi Bryan, I really appreciate this, although I do not presently use MS Outlook. I have updated my PGP information page http://ao.com.au/pgp.htm to include this hotfix, although I still have not updated the instructions for version 7.03, nor for the problem I know people have had implementing

[e-gold-list] Re: Security measures and DIRT

2001-06-19 Thread Geld Monger
Ken Griffith said: 2. Use ANTIVIRUS software to protect against trojans. The only problem is that AV doesn't detect NEW trojans (or DIRT). And there are now worm kits available on the net that allow any idiot to slap together a new trojan in no time. This means a smart hacker who identifies

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates

2001-06-14 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 6 Jun 2001, at 13:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: regarding attacks that are only theoretical, i offer 2 grams to the first person that contacts me with the name of the security related organization that used the phrase making the theoretical practical since 1992 L0pht Heavy Industries If

[e-gold-list] Re: Security measures and DIRT

2001-06-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
In fact, the only REAL long term solution is to go completely over to digital-bearer-instruments (digital cash) instead of book-entry systems, but until then, here's how to protect your account: How so? These instruments are like a leather wallet in your back pocket. They can be stolen. You

[e-gold-list] Re: Security measures and DIRT

2001-06-13 Thread Viking Coder
The main difference with DBI's is that they are encrypted to your public key whether you store them on your hard drive or on the net. But they are still unlocked with your passphrase though, right? PGP, Hushmail, Mark Twain Digicash, Digigold all require(d) a passphrase to access the account,

[e-gold-list] Re: Security measures and DIRT

2001-06-13 Thread Viking Coder
If you don't have a secure computer, it doesn't matter how many layers of external protection exist, your items of value with be taken from you. Some famous quotes that come to mind... One by P.T. Barnum, and the other by Ben Franklin A fool and his money are soon parted. - P.T. Barnum No

[e-gold-list] Re: Security measures and DIRT

2001-06-13 Thread Ken Griffith
] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Security measures and DIRT The main difference with DBI's is that they are encrypted to your public key whether you store them on your hard drive or on the net. But they are still

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates

2001-06-08 Thread Jay W.
i can't stand the dearth of replies! see: http://store.gemplus.com select software solutions, possibly you could try the Kit, GemSAFE Enterprise Workstation 2.21 Standard Cryptography Serial Port Reader though i haven't messed with that particular item. what you fill find is that there are a

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates

2001-06-06 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 6 Jun 2001, at 8:30, Ken Griffith wrote: Gold Money now allows security certificates that are installed in the users browser to authenticate transactions. My question is: how easy is it for someone who can gain access to the users computer (either physically or through a trojan) to COPY

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates

2001-06-06 Thread Khurram Khan
My question is: how easy is it for someone who can gain access to the users computer (either physically or through a trojan) to COPY a security certificate and install it on another browser? Does anyone know? Therefore, the likelyhood of a trojan being able to steal the cert from the

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates

2001-06-06 Thread jrw
My question is: how easy is it for someone who can gain access to the users computer (either physically or through a trojan) to COPY a security certificate and install it on another browser? Does anyone know? i don't believe there are any scriptkiddie type tools out there to do it - but in

[e-gold-list] Re: Security Certificates

2001-06-06 Thread Ken Griffith
Does anyone have any experience with commercially available smart cards for storing private keys or certificates? What are the options? Ken --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-25 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:20 AM -0400 on 5/25/01, CCS wrote: this was not exactly true. The cryptocraphic protocols of digital bearer instruments certainly make them more secure but there still is vulnerability due to the need for communication with a central clearing mechanism. Actually, the double spend

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-25 Thread Craig Spencer
R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 12:20 AM -0400 on 5/25/01, CCS wrote: this was not exactly true. The cryptocraphic protocols of digital bearer instruments certainly make them more secure but there still is vulnerability due to the need for communication with a central clearing mechanism.

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:22 PM -0400 on 5/23/01, Craig Spencer wrote: Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All digital bearer instrument schemes require a central clearing mechanism to prevent double spending. This amounts to an account based system. Fortunately, :-), it doesn't. I've gone over this

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-24 Thread Ian Green
Mondex presented that model a few years back. (It may still be on www.mondex.com ?)I am still waiting for it, but it will take a major corporation like that to get the computer manufacturers to do it. Regards, Ian Green -Original Message- SNIP The catch is the card readers. If PC

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-24 Thread CCS
Hettinga wrote: At 9:22 PM -0400 on 5/23/01, Craig Spencer wrote: Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All digital bearer instrument schemes require a central clearing mechanism to prevent double spending. This amounts to an account based system. Fortunately, :-), it

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread Tril
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:58:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understandably, from a marketing perspective, the easier the system is to use, the more people will use it. However, e-gold and others will have difficulty attracting serious commercial customers until they provide a truly

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The technology is out there, but so far there hasn't been much implementation of it. I wonder why? Julian's law of security: nobody but spooks will pay for security that calls them an idiot. (Where pays is either in terms of money or of fuss-and-bother.) --- You

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread hkkid
Julian's law of security: nobody but spooks will pay for security that calls them an idiot. Good software makes the security virtually invisible. People don't mind carrying cards around in their wallets. They already do. If someone produced software and smartcards that were EASY to use it

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread jpm
Presently e-gold is about equal to credit cards in terms of security, and somewhat better in terms of non-repudiability. However, as Costa Gold and other examples have shown, even e-gold isn't really non-repudiable. If they think a transaction is fraudulent they will freeze it, so it isn't

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread Craig Spencer
The other long term solution is to completely abandon account based systems and switch to digital bearer instruments or digital cash. These can be stored on the users hard drive in an encrypted form, or stored on a smart card, or stored on a zip disk, offline where hackers can't reach them.

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian's law of security: nobody but spooks will pay for security that calls them an idiot. Good software makes the security virtually invisible. People don't mind carrying cards around in their wallets. They already do. If someone produced software and

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread hkkid
For both types (smart cards): - cost and hassle of getting cards - hassle of guarding cards from pickpockets and burglars - hassle of making sure you always have your card when and where you need it - hassle involved when you inevitably lose your card This is arrayed against a plain

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread hkkid
Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All digital bearer instrument schemes require a central clearing mechanism to prevent double spending. This amounts to an account based system. Such systems can be PKI based and so are more secure than e-gold. But they, also, can be spoofed and

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian, for the average consumer there is no doubt you are correct. For a business or bank moving thousands or millions of dollars, the risk of loss is definitely worth the hassle of getting the smart card. Of course. (And this is actually consistent with my law -

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-23 Thread Viking Coder
Julian, for the average consumer there is no doubt you are correct. For a business or bank moving thousands or millions of dollars, the risk of loss is definitely worth the hassle of getting the smart card. So the logic here is that the average consumer is too stupid, unwilling to learn,