[e-gold-list] Re: Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

2003-06-12 Thread cp_box
I'am not sure with a free cashcard, but with the paid cashcards they do
not send you a PIN code. You log into your Vcash account and set the PIN
yourself to what you want it to be. Click on the transfer link and it
should give you the option from that screen.



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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

2003-06-06 Thread Offshore Team
wow, sorry about that JR. Kind of harsh way to ask me to remove the last message from 
replies (it is easy to forget that sometimes) and kind of shows how much moderation 
goes on in this list compared to goldmoney.

From now on I shall endeavour to remove the previous message.



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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

2003-06-05 Thread Offshore Team
sheesh, what a drongo. The PIN I bet is in the package, or more than likely being sent 
in a second file for security reasons. some people have no gratitude...


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From: Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 05:11:09 -0400
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

As usual, you don't reply by email, so I have to post on this list.
But users need to know what kind of service (LOL) you supply,
between two spam-campaigns.
After waiting 2 weeks, I FINALLY received my (free!) card ! Now, it is FOUR DAYS that 
I am waiting your reply for the PIN code,
that was NOT with the card. Good, you sent a free card, without the PIN
code so it is unuasuable ! As usual, after receiving my mail, it took you
two days to ask for my card number - as if you wouldn't know it ! Now, it
is four days that I am waiting your reply - and the PIN code !




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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

2003-06-05 Thread Fidex Marketing
Steve,

This is a good example of why NOT to give something away for free. If
something is free, people don't value it.

Every card issuer I know of in the world sends PINs separately from
cards, and I think 2 weeks is a perefectly reasonable delivery time. And
if it is FREE...

Nick
Fidex




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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

2003-06-05 Thread AnyGoldNow SSL
Michel,

Looking at your email address, I guess you are in France.
Should you have read the CashCards site, you would have found out that YOU create your 
own PIN
number...

But then, of course, that takes reading  stuff.

Anyway, if you want to know more about the card and the service (in French), just go to
http://www.EuroGoldFrance.com

You will see that we have many ways of funding your FREE cashcards... straight from a 
French
Bank account

Bonne journée,

Patrick,
EuroGoldFrance
http://EuroGoldFrance.com
Tout l'Or du monde, en Français !
Obtenez et alimentez votre Cash Card



 Dear Steve Renner, from CASH-CARDS,
  We will give away $1,000 in e-gold FREE each month for one year,


 Now, it is FOUR DAYS that I am waiting your reply for the PIN code,
 that was NOT with the card. Good, you sent a free card, without the PIN
 code so it is unuasuable ! As usual, after receiving my mail, it took you
 two days to ask for my card number - as if you wouldn't know it ! Now, it
 is four days that I am waiting your reply - and the PIN code !

 Michel


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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam generated by archives?

2003-06-05 Thread James M. Ray
At 12:03 PM +0200 6/5/03, Fidex Marketing wrote:
...
I think the culprit is the list archive which is open to
address-harvesting bots.

The archive is useful, and one of the things I refuse to do
about spam is give up useful things if that can be avoided,
since doing that lets the spammers win. Obviously, they
know they're annoying and not real business, but they're
not going away. I've had liberty at gate.net since 1992, so
believe me, I get ALL spam.

Can something be done about it?

Well, probably not what you want. This list has hundreds of
subscribers, any of them can make his own archive, and 
make it publicly-accessible or just directly-sell emails off it,
since they ignore the list charter. At least one spammer is
a subscriber, and spammers tend to cooperate...

On the other hand, I think stats.e-gold.com is daily-proof
that e-gold is the first and only effective thing EVER to have
been done about Spam -- whether or not the news media,
CAUCE.org, etc. will ever bother to notice or care! Randy
Wilhite's post yesterday about INSTANTPaid2Read.com
is only the latest example of how e-gold has been quietly
in the forefront of the *actual* fight against spam; so 100K
spends yesterday wasn't just good news for e-gold, it was
good news for the 'net.  IMNSHO.
JMR



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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam generated by archives?

2003-06-05 Thread Danny Van den Berghe

 I think the culprit is the list archive which is open to
 address-harvesting bots.

 Can something be done about it?


Hi,


Is there really a need for list archives here?

Does it serve any purpose, other than providing the address-harvesting bots with
what must look almost like a real 'goldmine' in their eyes?

Why not turn these archives OFF ,and delete them?



Danny


PS: my e-gold-swap group at yahoogroups has no archives, so anybody is welcome to
trade metals in the group.
Palladium is already going up again, still a bargain compared to year ago prices,
although I doubt anybody with Palladium will be interested to swap it for gold at
this price levels. But you never know...
For info, charts and cross-metal rates: www.thegoldtraders.com



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[e-gold-list] RE: Spam generated by archives?

2003-06-05 Thread Fidex Marketing
 Is there really a need for list archives here?
 
 Does it serve any purpose, other than providing the address-harvesting
 bots with
 what must look almost like a real 'goldmine' in their eyes?
 
 Why not turn these archives OFF ,and delete them?

I must say I have never looked at the archives and can't see much use in
having them... I do appreciate and understand that certain parties may
find them useful and if they are there for the common good I am prepared
to accept the resultant spam. But I would like to know if they are
actually so useful... does anyone actually use the archives? 

Maybe JMR could archive them privately and only dig out messages on
request? If there was a dispute about what was said for example...

Or maybe there is some way of archiving messages while automatically
deleting or shortening the poster's email address?

Sure anybody *could* choose to arichive the messages but whether they do
so is another matter. I doubt it.

Best
Nick





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[e-gold-list] RE: Spam generated by archives?

2003-06-05 Thread jrw
 Sure anybody *could* choose to arichive the messages but whether they do
 so is another matter. I doubt it.
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hi nick,

i think there are at least 4 public gold list archives out there, most
of which do some obfuscation of source email address, but an industrious individual 
could certainly reconstruct subscriber addresses. but there 
are almost certainly harvesters subscribed to all the lists, so the public 
archives aren't a factor.

the source of spam is not e-mail lists, it is spammers. IMO, removing one
or two public archives would not affect spam, but would remove useful
tools from the community.

several of the bayesian spam filters do a real good job, the one i
use is correctly identifying spam ~90+% of the time. i find that 
spam assassin is a nice server based filter.

fighting spam references:
http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,3424155,00.html
http://www.paulgraham.com/better.html
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107_2-999671.html

jay w.
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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam generated by archives?

2003-06-05 Thread Joris Bontje
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On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:18:10PM +0300, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
 Is there really a need for list archives here?
 
 Does it serve any purpose, other than providing the address-harvesting
 bots with what must look almost like a real 'goldmine' in their eyes?
 
 Why not turn these archives OFF ,and delete them?

Yes, I do use the archives. If e-gold removes that archives, I am sure
someone else will put some up. dgcworld.com used to also archive the
e-gold mailinglist but it is not updated anymore.

Joris Bontje
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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam from cashcards, reply to Steve Renner

2003-06-05 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Michel,

I actually had to read your post twice. IMHO there are two main items to
address.

The easy one has to do with gratitude and your apparent lack of it. Where
did you pick up the inherent sense of entitlement that drips from your
accusations? It appears not only to be rather childish but moreover may
show a lack of experiencing having to work to pay your way on your part.
Take it from me, once you grow up you will realize that TANSTAFL, or in
other words, not much is for free but if something is, you better
appreciate it before you loose it.
I guess, your post just shut many a door in the e-gold community for you.

The second item is the one of your apparent inexperience, even naivitee
for lack of a better word.
What would you say if you had funded your card and your money would
suddenly vanish because Steve sent the PIN number to the first guy that
knew your card number and sent him an email?
Just imagine you calling your bank and telling them you lost the PIN
number to the brand new card they sent you - or never got the second
letter that had the PIN in it. What will the bank do? Maybe ask you for
the card number, your birth date, the name and birthplace of your mother,
the serial number of the engine block of your first car, your cat's DNA
sequence and heaven knows what else. Once you answered all those questions
correctly, what will your bank say: Thank you, we'll send a new PIN to
the street address on record.
Now, as I understand, CASHCARDS doesn't ask for a summary of your family
tree and certified blood samples before they send out their free cards.
How exactly is Steve supposed to verify your identity?
Moreover, do you actually believe when you emailed Steve that he would
know from the top of his head Gee, Michel, the French guy didn't get his
PIN? To test this foolish assumption: please recite the complete phone
number with IDD and area code of the second one-night stand you had...
difficult, innit?

Yet, you seem to expect Steve to know your card number by heart or carry
around the confidential records of issued cards whereever he goes and
spend ever waking moment to reply to emails of infuriated customers for
free? Sheesh...

I think a public appology for a short temper may well be in order,
wouldn't you agree?

Cheers,
Robert.

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[e-gold-list] RE: Spam generated by archives?

2003-06-05 Thread Fidex Marketing

Hi jrw,
 
 i think there are at least 4 public gold list archives out there, most
 of which do some obfuscation of source email address, but an
industrious
 individual could certainly reconstruct subscriber addresses. but there
 are almost certainly harvesters subscribed to all the lists, so the
public
 archives aren't a factor.

Frankly if someone can be bothered to reconstruct addresses manually or
even to subscribe to lists to harvest a few hundred addresses it does
not bother me so much. Targetted spam is not the problem... in fact if
spammers sent something useful that showed they had gone to the effort
to collect my address because I might actually be interested, I would
probably give them the time of day to read it. But I don't think anyone
is going to bother to construct lists manually to send out Viagra ads. I
am sure all that is done by harvester bots.

 the source of spam is not e-mail lists, it is spammers. IMO, removing
one
 or two public archives would not affect spam, but would remove useful
 tools from the community.

OK. If people find the archives useful, so be it. I was just questioning
whether that was in fact the case. I am subscribed to other lists which
do not have public archives and I don't get spam from those. And
personally I have never used any gold list public archives and find it
hard to envisage a circumstance in which I would need to.

 several of the bayesian spam filters do a real good job, the one i
 use is correctly identifying spam ~90+% of the time. i find that
 spam assassin is a nice server based filter.

OK thanks.

Nick





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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam

2002-03-19 Thread Ian Green

Sending unsolicited commercial or propaganda or virus or chain-letter etc. 
e-mails *IS SPAM* REGARDLESS of whether an unsubscribe method is offered! 
The law is not relevant to whether this is considered spamming, *people* 
consider it to be spam!

Yes, hosting companies pull the plug on you if you spam, but aside from 
that, spam promoters promise that even a tiny percentage of sales from bulk 
e-mail can generate strong sales when multiplied by vast quantities of 
spam, however this is easily topped by the percentage of ill-will and 
potential vengeance multiplied by vast quantities of spam!

Will these become the new crimes of the 21st century?

 Vigilantes tracking down and beating senseless
 the clueless fools who flood the world with spam!

 Spam queen murdered, while her entire customer list
 suffers devastating electronic attacks!

 Spectacular explosion splatters San Francisco spammer
 as megaphone voice shouts
 NO!!! Credit cards will NOT explode my sales!!! ...
 but they will bl**dy well explode YOU!!!

At 10:14 PM 17/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:
SNIP
Can somebody please tell me what the law is?
I was told that if I gave the reader the option to unsubscribe
it would not be considered Spam, is there any truth to this?
Does anyone know what happends if you are accused of spaming?
Is it your hosting company that follows throught with it?
SNIP

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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam

2002-03-18 Thread Phil Stevens


I would like to know what the deal is with Spam. I plan to use
some email addresses that I bought online and I want to make
sure its legal. Can somebody please tell me what the law is?

I was told that if I gave the reader the option to unsubscribe
it would not be considered Spam, is there any truth to this?

Does anyone know what happends if you are accused of spaming?


you can't expect to be taken seriously in business if you resort to 
spamming. Spamming has a very bad reputation. You generally need to email 
millions of people to make 0.1% in sales, annoying countless amounts of 
people in the process. Sure you can make money, but at the expense of losing 
your soul ;)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/713079.asp?cp1=1
http://www.hk.co.kr/times/200112/t2001121818285740110.htm
http://www.mofo.com/news/pr.cfm?concentrationID=19ID=675Type=1
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/12484
http://www.smh.com.au/icon/0202/16/news1.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/15/2224229mode=thread
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-850761.html


of course all of this is irrelevant if the people on the list have 
specifically given permission for their email addresses to be added. There 
are some genuine lists out there, however they tend to be small in size 
(10,000) and are generally targeted to a specific topic. Does your email 
list contain 1,000 addresses or 1,000,000 addresses? Were you given any 
do's and don'ts of what you can and cannot email them?


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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam

2002-03-18 Thread James M. Ray

Since we're on the subject, here's a message regarding Spam and
ecommerce from the Hettingalists. A number of the factoids below
seem wrong, as Spam typically has a very *low* response-rate, and
I can't believe that only 15% of bank  brokerage customers choose
to have their personal information kept secret when given an option
to do so (but who knows?).
JMR

==

  Is Spam Choking E-Commerce?

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/printer/16767/


Is Spam Choking E-Commerce?
Keith Regan
March 14, 2002Financial institutions stand to gain or lose about $60
billion worth of business in the next two years based on privacy concerns,
Forrester's Clemmer said. To most online consumers, receiving unwanted
e-mail marketing messages is just part of being online. Like offline junk
mail, it is something people do not like but have learned to live with.

But analysts say there is a price to pay for too much spam, and e-commerce
may have to foot some of the bill.

Privacy continues to be something that consumers say is holding them
back, Forrester analyst Christopher Kelley told the E-Commerce Times.
It's always one of the first answers to the question of why more people
aren't online.

And to many consumers, Kelley noted, the spam clogging their inbox is proof
positive that their personal information can easily fall into the wrong
hands.

Growth Industry

No one disputes that spam has exploded and that even more is coming.
According to GartnerG2 analyst Denise Garcia, the US$200 billion-a-year
direct mail marketing industry is looking closely at e-mail because of the
low cost and high response rates of e-mail ads.

Many new users of direct marketing services will be retailers and others
hoping to use the Web to improve customer retention and brand loyalty,
Garcia said, setting up a dangerous tightrope walk for e-commerce: Use
e-mail effectively without pushing customers away.

In Case of Emergency

E-commerce heavyweights may have set an example by sending e-mail to
customers only when it contains something the recipient will deem to be of
value. For instance, most e-mail from Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN) contains a
discount coupon or other special offer.

Auction giant EBay (Nasdaq: EBAY) uses e-mail even more sparingly, relying
instead on its network of bulletin boards to post updates for members.
E-mail is reserved for more important notices, such as changes in the
company's privacy policy.

In fact, EBay has fought hard in favor of anti-spam measures, as its
members often have had their addresses hijacked through the site.

Name Your E-Mail

Priceline.com spokesman Brian Ek told the E-Commerce Times that the
name-your-price travel site tries to make sure visitors are not bombarded
with e-mail after they register.

Our use of e-mail is on a special-situation basis, Ek said. We use such
communication to let customers know about added-savings offers that are not
available to the general public. You might even think of it as our version
of a loyalty program.

In that way, analysts said, the Priceline program may be a model for
e-commerce companies to follow: Limit e-mail messages to essential
communications, and make sure they contain something of value.

Holding Back

Some industries are being held back by spam and the reluctance it causes
among consumers about giving out personal information. For instance,
Forrester analyst Kenneth Clemmer told the E-Commerce Times, financial
institutions stand to gain or lose about $60 billion worth of business in
the next two years based on privacy concerns.

Consumers still worry about privacy, Clemmer said. He noted that 15
percent of bank and brokerage customers chose to have their personal
information kept secret when given the option to do so.

Financial institutions have to be able to assure customers of their
privacy, Clemmer added. That's hard to do if the consumer thinks they're
getting spam that's in any way related to their online banking.

Making that distinction may be the hardest job of all for e-commerce,
analysts said. Whether or not spam originates from a person's online
shopping experiences, just the possibility may be enough to put a damper on
future e-commerce growth.

Perception matters as much as reality, Kelley said. People want to feel
confident in where their information is going.

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[e-gold-list] RE: Spam

2002-03-18 Thread American eCurrency Connection

 I would like to know what the deal is with Spam. I plan to use
 some email addresses that I bought online and I want to make
 sure its legal. Can somebody please tell me what the law is?
 I was told that if I gave the reader the option to unsubscribe
 it would not be considered Spam, is there any truth to this?
 Does anyone know what happends if you are accused of spaming?
 Is it your hosting company that follows throught with it?

Hello Henry,

What you are considering is actually legal. States in the US have the right
to take the law a bit further, like Washington State. In WA, if you are
found to be guilty of SPAMming someone, you could be responsible for $500.00
fines PER ILLEGAL TRANSMISSION. I believe that Washington, Virginia, and
California are the hardest on UCE.

What is an illegal transmission? Any email that you send to a recipient that
did not request it first, such as purchasing a list of names and emailing
them all with your content. If the recipient did not first subscribe or ask
you for the information, and you send email to them; that is considered a
crime.

Whether the sender provides removal options or not, it is still SPAM if I
didn't request it. Who can press charges? Well, again, as for WA residents
it is us that can prosecute. We have what is called our Right of Action.
That means I can press charges against anyone sending me illegal email... of
course, if I can locate them to bring them to court.

Your ISP can and will shut down any and all services to you if you break
their policies. You may get a warning or two, but you will eventually be
shut down. How do they find out? Your recipients, other ISPs, etc...

My advice to you is that you should not perform the bulk-email process you
are considering. It is just not worth it. Ya'see, this is one of the
problems on the Internet. People want to get something going online and they
find the wrong people that tell them that all they need to do is setup a
simple website, buy and email list with some expensive bulk-email software
and they are going to be rich. This is the most incorrect methodology. A
good solid business on the Internet today takes time, effort, dedication,
patience, hard work, market analysis, proper hardware and software... etc.
Do it right! Don't waste your time with purchased email lists. Heck, I would
be willing to wager that over 35% of those lists you bought are invalid
addresses... could possibly be 75% or more by months end. Why? Because you
and, GOD knows how many others, bought this list.

What happens to me if I am caught spamming? You could lose your ISP, your
webhost, your new reputation, your old reputation, loss of dollars for
software and lists... URL blacklisting, server blocks... the list is
endless.

Sure, you could easily do it, but you better have some money in the bank to
purchase new ISP and webhost services for the numerous times you are going
to be shut down. You better know the terms and meanings for; cloaking,
routing, bouncing, forging... etc.

Before you consider doing this sir, consider the other end... the recipient.

Suggestion: DON'T DO IT AT ALL!

Kind Regards,

RJ LeVeque
AmeriConn
http://www.americonn.com








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[e-gold-list] Re: Spam

2002-03-17 Thread James M. Ray


On Sunday, March 17, 2002, at 10:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Sir/Madam,

 I would like to know what the deal is with Spam.
...

The deal is that you got ripped off if you bought a list of email 
addresses,
and that http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/policy.htm says that if you spam
about e-gold they'll value-limit your account (and possibly also take other
actions). I don't WANT the first time people hear about e-gold to be in a
spam message!

You know it's annoying. You think it might be illegal. You're considering 
it
anyway (and have wasted some money in the process...). Things don't
look good from here, but I hope I've convinced you to reconsider if it's
about e-gold.   FWIW, more than half of my spam is about accepting
credit cards (but that doesn't make spamming about e-gold right!).
JMR


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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread gary

It is an interesting response but, are you sure it is a
response to a posting on this list?  Also, what is your
reason for saying that Xodds is a "questionable" entity?

Gary

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From: "Dagny Taggart" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] spam?


 After posting messages to the list, I received this:

 May we thank you for contacting Xodds.com.  We
 acknowledge receipt of your message and we will
 endeavour to respond as soon as possible.

 Should you not receive any response within the next
 48
 hours please contact Mr Piers Allen, Supervisor, on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is this?
Is e-gold working with questionable entities?




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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread Viking Coder

 After posting messages to the list, I received this:
[Message Removed]

So... I've received just as much spam in my e-gold list mail account as I
have in my eBay mail account.

 What is this?

It is spam. The e-gold is open to anybody who wishes to join. The list is
also posted to the web, at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This makes it very easy for spammers to either point harvester robots at
the archive site, or sign up for an account, lurk, and extract email
addresses as they come in.

This is the reason that James Ray suggested a paid-entry e-gold list. This
would be something like a one-time/yearly payment of 1 AUG.

The only issue with creating a paid-entry list is that it will usually
shut out newcomers to e-gold. It will also require everybody on the list
to have an e-gold account. This is currently not a requirement.

 Is e-gold working with questionable entities?

No. What would they have to gain from doing this? Minisculy increased
reveune and loss of user confidence which equals dramatically decreased
revenue.


Viking Coder

Worth Two Cents?
http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder

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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread SnowDog


 It is an interesting response but, are you sure it is a
 response to a posting on this list?  Also, what is your
 reason for saying that Xodds is a "questionable" entity?

I agree: Xodds is a fun game! Hardly a questionable entity.

Regarding patents:

1) E-gold has been in operations since July, 1996, before any patents were
granted.

2) The Idea behind storing bullion in a bullion bank and exchanging it
on-line, in real-time, is an idea and will probably not be protected by
patent law in court.

3) James Turk is not going to sue GSR. He's probably a fan of e-gold. Isn't
he on this list?

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread Michael Moore

Yes I got this too!

I think the  business that owns the list has changed hands.

MM


 After posting messages to the list, I received this:
 
 May we thank you for contacting Xodds.com.  We 



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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread Khurram Khan

So... I've received just as much spam in my e-gold list mail account as I

have in my eBay mail account.



 What is this?



hmm... I wonder how much somebody would pay for a guaranteed spam proof email account? 

   Khurram Khan

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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread Dagny Taggart

I would love to pay a little extra to not get spam,
what fee are you thinking of?


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  What is this?
 
 
 
 hmm... I wonder how much somebody would pay for a
 guaranteed spam proof email account? 
 
Khurram Khan
 

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[e-gold-list] Re: spam?

2001-03-11 Thread markab23

I don't think a small fee would help.  
a) it may put off new people  and
b)  Enthusiastic Spam Merchants would not mind paying a fee to  peddle their 
wares.

Chuck

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I would love to pay a little extra to not get spam,
what fee are you thinking of?


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 So... I've received just as much spam in my e-gold
 list mail account as I

 have in my eBay mail account.

 

  What is this?



 hmm... I wonder how much somebody would pay for a
 guaranteed spam proof email account?

Khurram Khan


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