Re: ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project

2007-07-21 Thread William Silvert
I agree with Jim that we often see patterns in randomness -- it doesn't take a psychologist to find this out. The stars are pretty randomly distributed (although the concentration varies, esp. around the Milky Way), but people have found patterns (constellations) there for millenia. And visual

Re: ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project

2007-07-21 Thread William Silvert
Wow, quite a post! A few comments tangentially related to Wayne's reply. I am actually quite skeptical about biocalculus, at least as applied to ecology. Although I consider myself a reasonably skilled mathematician (my PhD is in theoretical physics), I make very little use of math in my

Re: ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project

2007-07-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
Hon. (Wow!) Mathecologist Silvert and Forum: If we can prune pride from the bush somehow, we need have no fear of brainstorming, provided we are prepared to resist the temptation to mount the bandwagon du jour and take a hard look at the actual as opposed to only the virtual outcome. Even

science literacy

2007-07-21 Thread WENDEE HOLTCAMP
I am finding a poll from 1988, an article in the NY Times (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE6DD143BF936A15753C1A96E 948260) that says that something like 21% believed the Sun revolved around the Earth, and that 7% said they didn't know. But I can't seem to find anything since