Hello,
That was pretty harsh. But to the point. People who are really interested but 
cant afford that much, what do you suggest should do? I am from India, $3000 
for me is equal to some 2 lakh rupees. Which is a lot for me. I am an amateur 
conservationist who have just started earning. I want to volunteer but cannot 
afford that much which stops me from learning. Where, interested and capable 
students should be given a chance to learn what we all are trying to achieve, 
betterment of the wildlife and nature. Volunteering should not be paid but also 
it shouldn't be asking for money to do so. 

Just because I cant afford, I am being stopped from what I actually want to do. 
Hence, money does matters they say and the motivation and focus can go die 
somewhere. I wonder why these organisations were even formed. Do they realise 
what are they asking for? Running an organisation is not easy understood, but 
they do get fundings. Still asking money from people and not giving a chance to 
students to learn and share their knowledge is what I am disappointed at. 


-----Original Message-----
From: "Zeenal" <zeen...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎23-‎03-‎2017 19:30
To: "CARRION Steven" <s1681...@sms.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [ECOLOG-L] HUMPBACK WHALE RESEARCH ON THE GREAT 
BARRIERREEF,AUSTRALIA (JULY-SEPT 2017) ? RESEARCH ASSISTANT OPPORTUNITIES

Hello,
That was pretty harsh. But to the point. People who are really interested but 
cant afford that much, what do you suggest should do? I am from India, $3000 
for me is equal to some 1.25 lakhs. Which is a lot for me. I am a amateur 
conservationist who have just started earning. I want to volunteer but cannot 
afford that much which stops me from learning. Where, interested and capable 
students should be given chance to learn what we all are trying to achieve, 
betterment of the wildlife and nature. Volunteering should not be paid but also 
it shouldn't be asking for money to do so. 

Just because I cant afford, I am being stopped from what I actually want to do. 
Hence, money does matters they say and the motivation and focus can go hide 
somewhere. 


From: CARRION Steven
Sent: ‎23-‎03-‎2017 19:24
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] HUMPBACK WHALE RESEARCH ON THE GREAT BARRIER 
REEF,AUSTRALIA (JULY-SEPT 2017) ? RESEARCH ASSISTANT OPPORTUNITIES


The whole "unpaid" vs "paid" vs "exploitative" internships discussion has been 
discussed in ECOLOG before but I had to bring it up again after seeing this 
post. 

A "research assistant" position wherein students have to pay a almost 3 grand 
to participate in an activity less than a week? And this covers accommodation 
and food? This amount of money is what people pay to go on luxury cruises. This 
seems like it's a way to fund the organization's research costs while being 
provided with freely given labor. Exploitative is the nicest way I can put that.

I don't think these types of posts should have a place on academic list serv. 
or if they are included they should more accurately be called for-profit/paid 
volunteering.

Best Regards,

Steven Carrion
University of Edinburgh

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Lesley Douglas 
> <lesley.doug...@blueplanetmarine.com> wrote:
> 
> The Great Barrier Reef Whale and Dolphin Research Programme is led by 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> The Programme fee covers accommodation and food aboard the research 
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> 
> No prior experience is necessary and training will be provided. 
> Preference will be given, however, to individuals involved in marine 
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> 
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> Best regards,
> Lesley
> 
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