Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Erin Cleere
: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem   Respectable journals won't publish applied material??? I can't let that pass unanswered. There are numerous respectable journals that focus on applied areas such as pollution, aquaculture, agriculture, silviculture, invasion biology, environmental management

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Neahga Leonard
Cleere boogni...@yahoo.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem So you pick feral cats over, for example, cattle? Cattle that negatively impact soil and water quality and increase erosion, which in turn negatively

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Lawrence Baker
From: Erin Cleere boogni...@yahoo.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem So you pick feral cats over, for example, cattle? Cattle that negatively impact soil and water quality and increase

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem This has been an extremely interesting thread. Now if we could just This has been an extremely interesting thread. Now if we could just admit that humans are part of ecology/ecosystem

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Even highly diverse, apparently sustainable agricultural systems – like the forest gardens of lowland Samoa – wind up displacing/destroying much biodiversity when human population

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Thank you for finally nudging toward the real root of most of our problems - unregulated human population explosion. Is it ethical that the goal of humanity seems to be to ensure that at some point

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Juan Alvez
: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem I'd like to hear more about the huge social component with respect to invasive species, and would especially like to hear more about academics' discomfort in this regard.--Wayne Tyson Essentially invasive species are invasive because we say they are. Miconia

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Rivera To: Wayne Tyson Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Why is novel ecosystem nauseating? There seems to be a negative bias towards this idea in this thread. As scientist that we are, this seems

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread frah...@yahoo.com
From: Richard Boyce boy...@nku.edu To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:01 PM Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Here's a *very* interesting story on the human-assembled ecosystems of Ascension Island in the tropical South

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread Judith S. Weis
further into the nuts and bolts of evolution. WT - Original Message - From: David Duffy ddu...@hawaii.edu To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Hi Ian, While plant ecology abandoned Clements a generation

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread Wayne Tyson
All: By respectable, I meant main-stream ecology. WT - Original Message - From: Judith S. Weis jw...@andromeda.rutgers.edu To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Respectable journals won't publish

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread Safeeq, Mohammad
landr...@cox.net wrote: A cornfield requires cultivation. An ecosystem requires no cultivation. WT - Original Message - From: Ricardo Rivera To: Wayne Tyson Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread Wayne Tyson
...@msu.edu To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Dear WT, How about cultivation of fungi by termites and ants? Andres Vina Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote: A cornfield requires cultivation. An ecosystem

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread Andres Vina
, September 01, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Dear WT, How about cultivation of fungi by termites and ants? Andres Vina

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread frah...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Cultivation of plants and animals, by definition, replaces complex, self-sustaining ecosystems with monocultures or polycultures. WT - Original Message - From: frah...@yahoo.com frah...@yahoo.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-09-01 Thread Thomas J. Givnish
From: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Cultivation of plants and animals, by definition, replaces complex, self-sustaining ecosystems with monocultures or polycultures

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-31 Thread Wayne Tyson
of evolution. WT - Original Message - From: David Duffy ddu...@hawaii.edu To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Hi Ian, While plant ecology abandoned Clements a generation or two ago, like a lot of things

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-30 Thread Ian Ramjohn
While plant ecology abandoned Clements a generation or two ago, like a lot of things that hasn't always trickled down to more applied areas. For this stuff specifically, there's a whole literature on 'novel ecosystems' that has developed in the last several years...Richard Hobbs, Ariel Lugo,

[ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Boyce
Here's a *very* interesting story on the human-assembled ecosystems of Ascension Island in the tropical South Atlantic: http://e360.yale.edu/feature/on_a_remote_island_lessons__in_how_ecosystems_function/2683/ I suspect that further research here may challenge our ideas regarding community

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-29 Thread Palmer, Mike
@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Here's a *very* interesting story on the human-assembled ecosystems of Ascension Island in the tropical South Atlantic: http://e360.yale.edu/feature/on_a_remote_island_lessons__in_how_ecosystems_function/2683/ I suspect that further research

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-29 Thread David Duffy
I'd suggest that before folks get too excited about challenges to our ideas regarding community assembly, they reread Gleason (1926), Whittaker (1975) and Hubbell (2001), amongst others. Also isolated islands with depauperate faunas and floras may not be the best models for general ecological

[ECOLOG-L] ECOSYSTEM Function References Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-29 Thread Wayne Tyson
] Human-assembled ecosystem Here's a *very* interesting story on the human-assembled ecosystems of Ascension Island in the tropical South Atlantic: http://e360.yale.edu/feature/on_a_remote_island_lessons__in_how_ecosystems_function/2683/ I suspect that further research here may challenge our

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem

2013-08-29 Thread Wayne Tyson
of the species and their origins, and what kind of evolution has taken place, if any? Genetics? - Original Message - From: Richard Boyce boy...@nku.edu To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Human-assembled ecosystem Here's a *very