I finally got around to mentioning ecopath on a few newsgroups and we have picked up a few new people... At present the list is about a year old and consists of occasional discussion periods with me (jeff) providing constant posts on different topics. Two topics coming up are cooking and medicinal herbs. The web page was updated to make it less personal and a section was added for links to other sites. If anyone has suggestions for links let me know. Here is the URL: http://www.teleport.com/~kowens To unsubscribe email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe your-email-address-here The archives for ecopath can be found on the web at: http://www.mail-archive.com%40csf.colorado.edu To posts messages send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The scope of the list (what topics fit) has caused confusion in the past, so here is a brief summary. The tests i use go something like this: 1. Ideas individuals can incorporate into their lives. This can be models of the future, daily activities, useful viewpoints (usually related to ethics or philosophy) and tools. 2. Ideas should be related to ecology or sustainability. This can be anything that moves us one step closer to a sustainable world. Of course, the ideas are relative to our starting point and it is the "step" that is important. 3. Descriptions of what someone is doing, has done, or plans to do. Generally, personal experience is valued more highly than opinion, cultural rules, stories about others, etc. Also, guilt and discomfort are not assumed to part of the quest for sustainability. ---- The thought manifests as the word; The word manifests as the deed; The deed develops into habit; And habit hardens into character; So watch the thought and its ways with care, And let it spring from love Born out of concern for all beings.... History is principally the inaccurate narration of events which ought not to have happened. Ernest Hooton, anthropologist (1887-1954). ---------- Jeff Owens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Zone 7, http://www.teleport.com/~kowens Underground house, solar energy, reduced consumption, no TV