Re: software and code information

1999-12-15 Thread jgwallis
In article 01bf3442$bfca8630$[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Beatriz Margolis) wrote: I would appreciate if somebody in the list could help me with the following questions: a. Where may I found a description of the internal format of a .xls file? The internal format of an XLS

Cox Hazard Function Plots

1999-12-15 Thread voxx1
Hi - I often use Cox proportional hazards modelling (SPSS)for analyzing patient survival data. Although I know how the hazard function plot is generated I'm not certain how to interpret it and have been ignoring it up until now. I'd appreciate it if anyone could give me a quick explanation of

Re: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread Jerry Dallal
Robert Dawson wrote: Exactly... An example - we've been using Devore Peck, which unfortunately introduces the Z test for the mean, supposedly for pedagogical reasons but without nearly a strong enough indication of this. A lot of students infer a rule "if n30 use z rather than t"

Re: GLM vs. ANOVA

1999-12-15 Thread Donald F. Burrill
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will someone please enlighten me as to the general differences between GLM and ANOVA. In my short journey through graduate statistics, I somehow assumed they were the same. Parallelling your short journey, here is a short distinction in one

Re: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread Robert Dawson
Robert Dawson wrote: Exactly... An example - we've been using Devore Peck, which unfortunately introduces the Z test for the mean, supposedly for pedagogical reasons but without nearly a strong enough indication of this. A lot of students infer a rule "if n30 use z rather than t"

Re: GLM vs. ANOVA

1999-12-15 Thread Alex Yu
In SAS, ANOVA is for design of one-way and balanced multi-way classifications. The main point here is "balanced." ANOVA may be used for unbalanced data if the factors do not interact, otherwise, GLM is a better procedure.

RE: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread Olsen, Chris
Hello Robert and All -- Please forgive the intrusion of a lurker in a domain above my pay grade, as it were, but I have a slight question... The "Z test with s" is nothing but an unnecessary approximation of the t distribution for n1 degrees of freedom by the z distribution. The most

z and t

1999-12-15 Thread dennis roberts
of course ... if one believes that NEITHER really give you any useful information about population parameters ... means ... or correlation values, etc. ... remember, the t distribution and associated tests using it, is not JUST used for means ... THEN, maybe this distinction is trivial ...

Re: GLM vs. ANOVA

1999-12-15 Thread dennis roberts
in minitab for example ... the command ANOVA insists on equal ns in the cells ... glm does not ... this is not a conceptual difference as don was pointing out ... but, it is important IF you happen to be using minitab -- 208 Cedar Bldg., University

interactive statistics tutorials and applets

1999-12-15 Thread Dale Berger
Hi Robert, We have a website featuring interactive applets with tutorials for some introductory concepts. The applet for power is particularly cool - the user can control effect size, n, or power, and see dynamic connections. The URL is wise.cgu.edu These are free to use, though we

Millennium Mathematical Frieze

1999-12-15 Thread John Bibby, QED/MatheMagic (York, England), maths popularisers
Please let me know if you would like to see FREE sample pages from the QED Millennium Mathematical Frieze. This is our calendar for the New Year, and takes the place of FunMaths!, which has receeived high acclaim in recent years. Like FunMaths, the Millennium Frieze contains countless

RE: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread dennis roberts
i would highly recommend a paper by ken brewer ... titled: behavioral statistics textbooks: source of myths and misconceptions, Journal of Educational Statistics .. Fall, 1985, V 10, #3, pp 252-268 ... for an excellent discussion of the CLT At 12:20 PM 12/15/99 -0600, Olsen, Chris wrote:

Re: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread Jerry Dallal
I thought there was a chance it would hinge on "better". Since it was "never" that got the emphasis, I thought I'd ask. The problem for me with the statement "Z is NEVER a better test for the mean under circumstances they are likely to encounter [in psychology]" is that it reads like an

Re: Cox Hazard Function Plots

1999-12-15 Thread Juan Ramón Lacalle
The best and most intuitive interpretation of hazard rate and plot I've ever read is in the book by Kleinbaum. The complete reference is: Kleinbaum DG. Survival analysis. A self-learning text. N. York, Springer, 1996. -- --

Re: dissertation

1999-12-15 Thread Jerry Dallal
"J.L." wrote: I am a PhD student in biostats. who will be starting the dissertation process in about a year and a half. Could anyone direct me to some useful books/web sites/other references on beginning, researching, writing the dissertation? Most of the books I have found so far seem to

Re: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread Robert Dawson
Chris Olsen wrote: It would seem to me that more than this most can be said. If my reading of the central limit theorem is up to snuff, I should be able to use the "Z test with s" without an underlying assumption of the normality of the parent population, Yes, as an unnecessary

Re: teaching statistical methods by rules?

1999-12-15 Thread Robert Dawson
Jerry Dallal wrote: The problem for me with the statement "Z is NEVER a better test for the mean under circumstances they are likely to encounter [in psychology]" is that it reads like an indictment It is. The last thing students in

RE: dissertation

1999-12-15 Thread Dale Glaser
I'm not sure if this will be pertinent to your field as it is written more from a psychologist's reference, but for an excellent text try: Cone, J. D., Foster, S. L. (1993). Dissertations and theses from start to finish. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association. Dale Glaser

Re: ANOVA with proportions

1999-12-15 Thread Rich Ulrich
On 14 Dec 1999 08:40:18 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William B. Ware) wrote: As I recall, there was an article by Lunney et al that appeared in the Journal of Educational Measurement that examined the use of ANOVA with "1" and "0" as the DV. I believe that they concluded that distortion was

Re: ANOVA with proportions

1999-12-15 Thread Rich Ulrich
On 14 Dec 1999 16:38:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Strauss) wrote: snip I'll just add the usual caveat that hasn't yet been mentioned in these responses about proportions: the transformations, use of the binomial, and comment about proportions just being means all assume that the data

t vs. z

1999-12-15 Thread Bob Hayden
- Forwarded message from Olsen, Chris - It would seem to me that more than this most can be said. If my reading of the central limit theorem is up to snuff, I should be able to use the "Z test with s" without an underlying assumption of the normality of the parent population, required

Re: dissertation

1999-12-15 Thread J. Williams
One of the first things to do is to pose your queries with a senior faculty member with whom you are acquainted. Perhaps, you might even boldly bounce a few subject/topic areas for your thesis with him/her. Some professors have favorite dissertations "on the shelf" portraying what has been