Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread Alan McLean
Will Hopkins wrote: Responses to various folks. And to everyone touchy about one-tailed tests, let me make it quite clear that I am only promoting them as a way of making a sensible statement about probability. A two-tailed p value has no real meaning, because no real effects are ever

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread dennis roberts
we have to first separate out 2 things: 1. some test statistics are naturally (the way they work anyway) ONE sided with respect to retain/reject decisions example: chi square test for independence ... we reject ONLY when chi square is LARGER than some CV ... to put a CV at the lower end of

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
dennis roberts wrote: we have to first separate out 2 things: 1. some test statistics are naturally (the way they work anyway) ONE sided with respect to retain/reject decisions example: chi square test for independence ... we reject ONLY when chi square is LARGER than some CV ... to

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread Herman Rubin
In article p0433010fb6d329af7d2d@[139.80.121.126], Will Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:34 PM + 12/3/01, Jerry Dallal wrote: Don't do one-tailed tests. If you are going to do any tests, it makes more sense to one-tailed tests. The resulting p value actually means something that folks

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread Jerry Dallal
Will Hopkins wrote: At 7:34 PM + 12/3/01, Jerry Dallal wrote: Don't do one-tailed tests. If you are going to do any tests, it makes more sense to one-tailed tests. If you're doing a 1 tailed test, why test at all? Just switch from standard treatment to the new one. Can't do any

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2001-03-13 Thread Paolo Covelli
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Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread RD
On 13 Mar 2001 07:12:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dennis roberts) wrote: 1. some test statistics are naturally (the way they work anyway) ONE sided with respect to retain/reject decisions example: chi square test for independence ... we reject ONLY when chi square is LARGER than some CV ...

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread dennis roberts
well, help me out a bit i give a survey and ... have categorized respondents into male and females ... and also into science major and non science majors ... and find a data table like: MTB chisquare c1 c2 Chi-Square Test: C1, C2 Expected counts are printed below observed counts

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread Herman Rubin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], RD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Mar 2001 07:12:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dennis roberts) wrote: 1. some test statistics are naturally (the way they work anyway) ONE sided with respect to retain/reject decisions example: chi square test for independence ...

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], RD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13 Mar 2001 07:12:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dennis roberts) wrote: 1. some test statistics are naturally (the way they work anyway) ONE sided with respect to retain/reject decisions example: chi square test for

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-13 Thread Will Hopkins
Responses to various folks. And to everyone touchy about one-tailed tests, let me make it quite clear that I am only promoting them as a way of making a sensible statement about probability. A two-tailed p value has no real meaning, because no real effects are ever null. A one-tailed p

Re: On inappropriate hypothesis testing. Was: MIT Sexism statistical bunk

2001-03-13 Thread Irving Scheffe
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Re: IRT/Rasch Modeling with SAS?

2001-03-13 Thread John Uebersax
Hi Lee, If you go to my web page for Latent Trait and Item Response Theory (IRT) Models, http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jsuebersax/lta.htm (please let me know if this link doesn't work) that will point to several other pages that might help. Then the IRT curve that I am