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N.Y. Times: Statistics, a Tool for Life, Is Getting Short Shrift

2001-11-28 Thread Alan Zaslavsky
Today' New York Times education column is the following appreciation of the importance of statistics in primary and secondary math education. Teachers, post it in your math department offices! -- Statistics, a Tool for Life, Is Getting Short Shrift November

Re: N.Y. Times: Statistics, a Tool for Life, Is Getting Short Shrift

2001-11-28 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
The NY Times wrote: It is no longer possible to serve competently on some juries without more data skills than most college graduates have. That's all right, there will always be one lawyer or the other who doesn't *want* anybody to serve competently, and the competent juror

Re: N.Y. Times: Statistics, a Tool for Life, Is Getting Short Shrift

2001-11-28 Thread Rich Strauss
If the trend continues nationwide, this newspaper could someday report that an apparently alarming cluster of cancer cases has arisen in an innocuous normal distribution, and students will be able to explain to their parents what that means. The reporting of cancer clusters already happens on a

Re: When Can We Really Use CLT Student t

2001-11-28 Thread Jerry Dallal
Kaplon, Howard wrote: What many authors do, I believe, is employ the Law of Large Numbers, and say that for n sufficiently large, the probability approaches 0 that | sigma - s | is different from 0. That is sigma and s may be interchanged with minimal probability of any change. And so

Re: When Can We Really Use CLT Student t

2001-11-28 Thread Jerry Dallal
Ronny Richardson wrote: As I understand it, the Central Limit Theorem (CLT) guarantees that the distribution of sample means is normally distributed regardless of the distribution of the underlying data as long as the sample size is large enough and the population standard deviation is

Re: fractional factorial design / DOE

2001-11-28 Thread Ken K.
Focusing on designs that have resolution V or higher, your only two options are a full factorial (you don't want that) and a half fraction (2^{6-1}). If you six factors are A B C D E F, your design would have 32 runs and it will look like this: StdOrdr A B C D E F 1

Re: which test to use

2001-11-28 Thread Niko Tiliopoulos
Dear Kathy, You slightly confuse me with all that detail, but if what I get is right, and that is that you have two continuous variables (one IV one DV), then why don't you use a simple regression analysis? Is there something I overlooked or does this appear to solve your query? Best Niko

Re: Evaluating students: A Statistical Perspective

2001-11-28 Thread jim clark
Hi On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Thom Baguley wrote: I'd argue that they probably aren't that independent. If I ask three questions all involving simple algebra and a student doesn't understand simple algebra they'll probably get all three wrong. In my experience most statistics exams are better

Re: Evaluating students: A Statistical Perspective

2001-11-28 Thread jim clark
Hi On 25 Nov 2001, Herman Rubin wrote: If it is a good test, ability should predominate, and there is absolutely no reason for ability to even have close to a normal distribution. If one has two groups with different normal distributions, combining them will never get normality. I think

Q and t

2001-11-28 Thread Dennis Roberts
in what way are the Q values (critical) and t ... connected? someone pointed out that Q = t * sqrt 2 ... for example, doing a tukey follow up test ... with 3 means and 27 df for mserror ... the critical (.95 one tail) value for Q is about 3.51 (note: the mtb output shows this cv of 3.51)

Re: fractional factorial design / DOE

2001-11-28 Thread kjetil halvorsen
Hola! I beleave the best reference for this topic is Box, Hunter Hunter: Statistics for experimenters. Wiley Its newer books but not better ones. If youn cannot do with a standard fraccional factorial, I could help out with D-optimal designs. Kjetil Halvorsen Eric wrote: Does anybody

Re: Evaluating students: A Statistical Perspective

2001-11-28 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 01:35 PM 11/28/01 -0600, jim clark wrote: Hi On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Thom Baguley wrote: I'd argue that they probably aren't that independent. If I ask three questions all involving simple algebra and a student doesn't understand simple algebra they'll probably get all three wrong. In my

GALTON's experiment

2001-11-28 Thread J.-Charles GALINDO
Hi everybody. Who could help me to write an MS EXCEL application to simulate the GALTON experiment. Best regards for your time... from a very bad french english speaking ! = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and

Re: fractional factorial design / DOE

2001-11-28 Thread John Fava
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric) wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anybody have any good pointers to the basics of fractional factorial design in industrial context? I've got six factors with two levels per factor for my predictor variable need to create an experimental design which

Re: Consumer Credit Scoring: How to align scores

2001-11-28 Thread Jay Stevens
Steve, Its basically just a scaling of the score. Are you actually trying to create your own scaled score? Or are you trying to calibrate a FICO (or other model company) generated score based on your own observed portfolio bad rate? The phrase you used is usually stated: 2% bad rate (or 49:1

Re: Evaluating students: A Statistical Perspective

2001-11-28 Thread jim clark
Hi On 28 Nov 2001, Dennis Roberts wrote: At 01:35 PM 11/28/01 -0600, jim clark wrote: The distribution of grades will depend on the distribution of difficulties of the items, one of the elements examined by psychometrists in the development of professional-quality assessments. unless

Re: N.Y. Times: Statistics, a Tool for Life, Is Getting Short Shrift

2001-11-28 Thread Jerry Dallal
Rich Strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :If the trend continues nationwide, this newspaper could someday report :that an apparently alarming cluster of cancer cases has arisen in an :innocuous normal distribution, and students will be able to explain to :their parents what that means. : The