Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-11 Thread EugeneGall
Andrew Morse wrote: Who was the first to say Correlation does not imply causation in so many words? I know that the idea dates back to David Hume, but Hume did his work about a century before the term correlation acquired its modern statitical meaning. It certainly wasn't Hume, who's argument

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-11 Thread Herman Rubin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], EugeneGall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Morse wrote: Who was the first to say Correlation does not imply causation in so many words? I know that the idea dates back to David Hume, but Hume did his work about a century before the term correlation acquired its

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-09 Thread EugeneGall
Andrew Morse wrote: Who was the first to say Correlation does not imply causation in so many words? I know that the idea dates back to David Hume, but Hume did his work about a century before the term correlation acquired its modern statitical meaning. It certainly wasn't Hume, who's argument

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-05 Thread Juha Puranen
Stu wrote: Silvert, Henry wrote: Might I go one step further and point out the correlation does not establish a causal relationship primarily because it does not point to directionality, at least not without a working hypothesis and some background support. Absolutely. Without both a

RE: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-04 Thread Silvert, Henry
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Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-04 Thread jim clark
Hi On 3 Dec 2001, Karl L. Wuensch wrote: I think that phrase has created much misunderstanding. I try to convince my students that correlation is necessary but not sufficient for establishing a causal relationship. And I teach that NEITHER presence NOR absence of _simple_ correlation can be

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-04 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
Nice example. Perhaps I should have said partial (and not necessarily linear) correlation. - Original Message - From: jim clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation. Hi On 3 Dec

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-04 Thread Glen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Morse) wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Who was the first to say Correlation does not imply causation in so many words? I know that the idea dates back to David Hume, but Hume did his work about a century before the term correlation acquired its modern

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-04 Thread David Duffy
Andrew Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who was the first to say Correlation does not imply causation in so many Kendall and Stuart says ...Yule (1926) frightened statisticians by adducing cases of very high correlations which were obviously not causal..., in time-series data, as it happens.

Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-04 Thread Stu
---BeginMessage--- Silvert, Henry wrote: Might I go one step further and point out the correlation does not establish a causal relationship primarily because it does not point to directionality, at least not without a working hypothesis and some background support. Absolutely. Without

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-03 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
I think that phrase has created much misunderstanding. I try to convince my students that correlation is necessary but not sufficient for establishing a causal relationship. Karl L. Wuensch, Department of Psychology,East Carolina University, Greenville NC 27858-4353Voice: 252-328-4102

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-02 Thread Art Kendall
I don't recall who coined that phrase. However, it is frequently misused. Sometimes it is used to put down bad researchers who use correlational methods (including ordinary regression) and good researchers who use ANOVA methods. Sometimes it is used to mean that if there is correlation,

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-02 Thread Art Kendall
I don't recall who coined that phrase. However, it is frequently misused. Sometimes it is used to put down bad researchers who use correlational methods (including ordinary regression) and good researchers who use ANOVA methods. Sometimes it is used to mean that if there is correlation,

Re: Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-02 Thread Art Kendall
I don't recall who coined that phrase. However, it is frequently misused. Sometimes it is used to put down bad researchers who use correlational methods (including ordinary regression) and good researchers who use ANOVA methods. Sometimes it is used to mean that if there is correlation,

Who said Correlation does not imply causation.

2001-12-01 Thread Andrew Morse
Who was the first to say Correlation does not imply causation in so many words? I know that the idea dates back to David Hume, but Hume did his work about a century before the term correlation acquired its modern statitical meaning. I've seen many sources that crdit Karl Pearson with banishing