Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-14 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.math Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <9dpcei$qcf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>In sci.stat.edu Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> In article <9deiug$l0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>> Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-14 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <9dpcei$qcf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In sci.stat.edu Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In article <9deiug$l0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>2.) The two row (col)marginals are treated as independent; and

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Re: Variance in z test comparing purcenteges

2001-05-14 Thread RD
Great explanation! Thank you! Just need to clarify a few points below. On 14 May 2001 06:08:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert J. MacG. Dawson) wrote: > > >RD wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I am puzzled with the following question: >> In z test for continuous variables we just use the sum of estimated >

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-14 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.edu Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <9deiug$l0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Ronald Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>2.) The two row (col)marginals are treated as independent; and the >>observed table under the null hypothesis is regarded as >>being the result of two

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-14 Thread Elliot Cramer
In sci.stat.math Juha Puranen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Hhen N is small this is not true. Here a small example By Survo the example is irreelevaant; there are different tests of the same hypothesis eg do a t test with only the first 10 observations. Both tests are valid, the large n test is

Re: additional variance explained (SPSS)

2001-05-14 Thread Elliot Cramer
Dianne Worth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : I have a multiple regression y=a+b1+b2+b3+b4+b5. My Adj. R-sq is .403. you can't decompose adjusted R-sqs. The only additive decomposition (and the only decomposition that makes sense) is the stepwise composition of R-sq, adding additional variables

Re: Variance in z test comparing purcenteges

2001-05-14 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
RD wrote: > > Hi, > I am puzzled with the following question: > In z test for continuous variables we just use the sum of estimated > variances to calculate the variance of a difference of two means ie > s^2=s1^2/n1+s2^2/n2. > For purcentages we proceed as follows: > s^2=p(1-p)(1/n1+1/n2) > whe

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-14 Thread Juha Puranen
Elliot Cramer wrote: > > In sci.stat.consult Juha Puranen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :> > :> Please clarify what is meant by "the distribution does not > :> involve [the fixed marginals]". I am not clear on this: > :> the Fisher test statistic (hypergeometric upper tail probability) > :> cert