On 6/3/05 11:00 AM, Chuck Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think VB is the absolute
worst way to introduce programming,
Worse than COBOL? Or the C pre-processor? :-)
and emphasizing GUI in a first exposure to computing is a mistake.
My feeling is that it was not so much GUI-first as
Arthur wrote:
I don't remember SQL and database ever coming up here
Where does it fit into the CS curriculum?
It is typically its own course (it takes a completely different
attitude than another programming language). Most programmers
pick it up after school. Usually they don't want to
To some extent what's bogus about the GUI vs. no-GUI debate is that you
/have/ to have an interface to the user at some point, whether this is
accomplished with bells and whistles or not. So both the command line and
the windowing environment are meant to accomplish the same purpose: closing
There are actually subtle dangers in event-driven design itself. I
heartily suggest everyone read Miro Samek's Who Moved My State,
C/C++ Users Journal, April 2003. He says it much better than I can,
and he's one who Really Knows.
After a little Googling, here it is:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kirby Urner
To some extent what's bogus about the GUI vs. no-GUI debate is that you
/have/ to have an interface to the user at some point, whether this is
accomplished with bells and whistles or
