Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread kirby urner
Yeah J is fun. If Python is the least weird, J is maybe the most weird language I know (know).J is one of those languages that rewards cleverness -- the kind of cleverness that leaves other coders in the dust sometimes (or oneself, when feeling less inspired). I've got some writings on it linked

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread Paul Barrett
The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations, Numeric, Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and hopeful last - are based on J's array semantics and behaviour. So in some sense, you can teach J programming concepts by using Numpy. Have you you tried Numpy?--

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread Arthur
kirby urner wrote: SO: Any recommendations as to course textbooks? Or just go with Zelle and/or O'Reilly's latest wood rat book? - The students presumably have had programming courses already. - I would think that K-12 students would be happier if they could

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread Arthur
Paul Barrett wrote: The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations, Numeric, Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and hopeful last - are based on J's array semantics and behaviour. So in some sense, you can teach J programming concepts by using Numpy.

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread GerryLowry1(905)825-9582{AbilityBusinessComputerServices}
Chuck, based on the relation of J to NumPy as expressed by Paul and the context of Peter's opening message of this thread, to which I originally replied, imho, my reply was on topic ... of course, biased am I. MORE INFORMATION While this -sig is primarily about Python, it

Re: [Edu-sig] NumPy

2006-02-25 Thread Arthur
GerryLowry1(905)825-9582{AbilityBusinessComputerServices} wrote: Paul, no, I have not tried NumPy (Numerical Extensions To Python). The only Python (yet to be read) book that I own is Andre Lessa's Python Developer's Handbook, 2001, SAMS. Lessa mentions briefly (p. 15, last paragraph) NumPy and

[Edu-sig] edupy bof at pycon2006

2006-02-25 Thread Jeffrey Elkner
Hi All! We had a Python in Education BOF at PyCon2006 last night that was both productive and exciting. The wiki page describing goals we discussed as well as providing contact information for the attendees can be found here: http://edupy.pbwiki.com Andrew Harrington offered to look into

[Edu-sig] SIGCSE 2006 - Special Session on Teaching with Python

2006-02-25 Thread Brad Miller
The last note about the Python in Education BOF at PyCon inspired me to send this out.John Zelle, Mark Guzdial, David Ranum, and myself will be hosting a special session on teaching introductory computer science with Python at SIGCSE this week.  I hope that this will be an opportunity to meet some

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 25 Feb 2006 at 20:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:18:47 -0500 From: Paul Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations, Numeric, Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and hopeful last - are based on J's