Atanas,
Thanks for the input - I wasn't aware of the first problem you mention.
I'm not sure about the secnond issue - do you mean that a turtle program
that is *running* will hang if covered by other graphics? Or that a
window with an already completed drawing/program will become
So I think the following would be handy:
1. equally usable with either import * from turtle or import turtle
imports
2. should open with a window covering at least half the screen (the
current default is too small to be useful)
3. should offer some simple configuration choices for things
As I pointed out in my message, the reason we use turtle graphics is
to introduce the idea of functional decomposition and bottom-up
development. I have little interest in graphics, personally.
It worked very well for our students, and the fact that turtle
graphics is a toy is important: there's
Vern,
My apologies for being unclear. In Windows, turtle commands in
interactive mode have been most problematic, meaning that Tk becomes
irresponsive. In Windows XP, this can be simulated very easily.
0. Launch IDLE and run a Python shell.
1. Launch IE Explorer and make sure it covers the
My experience with turtle graphics in a
CS1 course has been very rewarding. It allows *everyone*, not just the most motivated, to be creative. With
turtle, drawing an original and intersting design is so easy. In a couple of dozens
of lines, my CS1 students create some amazing designs
Toby Donaldson wrote:
I used the Python turtle.py package last semester with about 500
first-year university students, and two problems stood out above all
others:
1. The broken interaction between Idle and the turtle package.
On windows, I have an icon linked to:
Vern Ceder schrieb:
Hello everyone,
As a consequence of my complaining about it in my PyCon talk, I have
been invited to submit some patches for turtle.py. To my mind, turtle.py
should be something that one could actually use for some very simple
programming with graphics lessons, with NO
1. The broken interaction between Idle and the turtle package.
On windows, I have an icon linked to:
C:\Python24\Lib\idlelib\idle.pyw -n
Does this expedient not work for you?
The -n means to use a single-process model (more fragile,
but the interaction of two GUI loops is not
I want to get an improved, backward compatible patch into the standard
package fairly soon, so over the next few days I will see if I can't
come up with something that covers most of the ideas suggested here,
including Gregor's libraries to some extent. I will of course post it
for
Hi all,
Apparently XturtlePkg.ZIP is to large(or wrong format)
to be sent over the Edu-SIG list, so if you want to
try it out, you are bound to use the mentioned link
http://ada.rg16.asn-wien.ac.at/~python/Xturtle/
to download it.
Regards,
Gregor
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