Re: [Edu-sig] From Kirby's corner...

2006-03-06 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Then I notice the Scheme folks might come and wonder if they're like > > the zookeepers. because, like, we have all these animals: {Logo : > > turtle, Squeak : mouse, Python : snake}. Now the Schemers show up, > > and plan a circus or som

Re: [Edu-sig] From Kirby's corner...

2006-03-06 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For my part, I've been musing on the animals we're seeing: turtles on > Python. I'm into monkeys. And Python's a snake (some say a comedy > troupe, but I say "it ate Monty"). > > I'm invited to a Shuttleworth Foundation gig

[Edu-sig] From Kirby's corner...

2006-03-06 Thread kirby urner
For my part, I've been musing on the animals we're seeing: turtles on Python. I'm into monkeys. And Python's a snake (some say a comedy troupe, but I say "it ate Monty"). I'm invited to a Shuttleworth Foundation gig in London in April to brainstorm on a proposed curriculum pipeline in South Afr

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread Andre Roberge
On 3/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > python -c "import urllib; urllib.main()" \ > > http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py \ > > | python - -U setuptools > > My point exactly - for the audienc

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > python -c "import urllib; urllib.main()" \ > http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py \ > | python - -U setuptools My point exactly - for the audience that I am focusing on and that with which many on edu-sig are con

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread Dethe Elza
> I am not yet a fan of easy install, and I know I am not alone in that. I'm still getting used to it as well, and some parts are not finished yet, but it is clearly the best way forward for installing and maintaining python packages. > And there is nothing at all easy about it at the monent, it

Re: [Edu-sig] Introducing classes (from functions to methods)

2006-03-06 Thread Gregor Lingl
Andre Roberge wrote: > ... I thought of how I would go > about to introduce classes, to users of rur-ple that have already > written simple programs to make a robot (Reeborg) move in his world, > both using the "function" notation and the OOP notation. > ... Hi Andre and all of you, may I give

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: Vern Ceder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I owe an apology and I offer it. > > Completely accepted for my part. Thank you. For consummating a rare online transaction ;) > Vern > > -- > This time for sure! >-Bullwinkle J. Moose Mr. Moose is an old hero of

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread Andre Roberge
On 3/6/06, Vern Ceder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, actually. I would say it's just one of IDLE's shortcomings, but > I've noticed it as well. This lack of ability to run a script with > parameters makes IDLE much less useful for intermediate programmers as > well. Add to that IDLE's genera

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread Vern Ceder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I can see that my focus on the 2nd stage disrupted the discussion of the > first. > > I owe an apology and I offer it. Completely accepted for my part. It actually clears up why we couldn't understand each other - we were discussing different questions. As to part 2,

Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)

2006-03-06 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Um, possibly because you come off pretty strongly, and seemed to be > upset that it was even being discussed? Yeah I guess I do and I was. OTOH, in reading back through the thread I see that Vern was quite explicit, let'