Re: [Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math

2006-03-23 Thread Arthur
-Original Message- From: kirby urner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll file that under from a guy who likes to have opinions -- whether well-informed or no. Yes I do have opinions. And among my opinions is Accountability in educational matters is fundamental and cannot be replaced

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-23 Thread Grégoire Dooms
Arthur wrote: -Original Message- From: Laura Creighton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And I think he will like tens of thousands of threads, too, though if these just means tens of thousands of chances to modify only part of your complex number, when you wanted an

Re: [Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math

2006-03-23 Thread kirby urner
Yes I do have opinions.And among my opinions is Accountability ineducational matters is fundamental and cannot be replaced by Genius and that you - and I mean a broader you than Kirby Urner - are broadly assaultingaccountability on a number of fronts.You haven't a clue what I'm doing. You got

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:24:39 +0100, Grégoire Dooms writes: Arthur wrote: -Original Message- From: Laura Creighton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And I think he will like tens of thousands of threads, too, though if these just means tens of thousands of

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Tobis
Then it is the language implementor's headache to make the locking mechanism work. from threading import Lock generally works for me. Arthur is not implementing a general purpose thread-safe language, so like him I continue to be confused as to the relevance of this conversation to his

Re: [Edu-sig] From europython -- should we do Python for kids?

2006-03-23 Thread kirby urner
My initial take is it's a good idea to do actual Python trainings at various levels, especially for participants feeling somewhat peripheral to the main conference tracks, owing to a language barrier of some kind. The pre OSCON workshops (before the actual start of the conference) accomplish a

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-23 Thread John Zelle
Since my name was invoked recently on this thread (albeit with a question mark), let me try to summarize: We all agree that mutability introduces interesting issues, particularly in the face of true concurrency. Language designers are very interested in languages with semantics that avoid or

Re: [Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math

2006-03-23 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a Silicon Forest exec looking after my own. So I *do* understand correctly. Business is business -to be sure. Art A ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org

Re: [Edu-sig] From europython -- should we do Python for kids?

2006-03-23 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi, I subscribed to follow the discussions here for some time. It was me, who asked for informations about python for kids events at the europython. Am 23.03.2006 um 07:05 schrieb Laura Creighton: So I want to open this up for discussion. What do we want to accomplish and how? I can not

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-23 Thread Scott David Daniels
Christian Mascher wrote: Scott David Daniels wrote: copying to a minimum. With immutables, you needn't do any of the bookkeeping. It is not that you have gone terribly wrong; it is that you have opened the lid on a large class of avoidable problems. If you look at Java's strings (as I