[Edu-sig] music:piano :: math:laptop ?

2008-12-15 Thread kirby urner
Edward Cherlin's insistent pointing to the XO is helping turn some wheels on my end... Way cool that Gibson Guitar was a sponsor of OSCON that time, shows how geeks are being seen from a Nashville angle: have laptop will travel, the solo musician model, except we also form bands. Really, so many

Re: [Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread kirby urner
> > And I don't understand why the quoted message appeared to be a reply > to what I wrote when not a single line of quoted text was something I > wrote. > > > André My apologies for generating such confusion. This is what I was ranting about, not something you wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008

Re: [Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread Andre Roberge
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, kirby urner wrote: > > > Count me a skeptic that there's anything unattractive about Python > that's to blame for keeping it from wider use in school systems. [SNIP] > > > Kirby Hmm, I don't see anything in the original post that refer to "wider use in school

Re: [Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread kirby urner
Just to be less ranty, as a math teacher (albeit a gnu one), I share an investment in matrix and vector notation, sigma notation, Riemann sum notation and all the rest of it (set notation, trig notation -- in which the diagrams are almost glyphic, a bridge to a more right brained approach, post-Bou

Re: [Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread kirby urner
Count me a skeptic that there's anything unattractive about Python that's to blame for keeping it from wider use in school systems. Once you go down that road, of soliciting off-the-cuff feedback, you'll get endless nonsense about making it case insensitive, adding a "schoolish math" division sy

Re: [Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread Andre Roberge
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Jurgis Pralgauskis wrote: > Hello, > > it would make python more attractive, > if there would be possibility to try it online > like ruby has http://tryruby.hobix.com > > maybe this could be made with jython , http://code.google.com/p/epy/ > or crunchy on GAE >

Re: [Edu-sig] Fwd: The 'Certified' Teacher Myth (long)

2008-12-15 Thread kirby urner
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: << SNIP >> >> lest >> you get caught up in dinosaur flavors of "should we allow calculators >> in math class?" kinds of debates (nothing at all about computer >> languages), angry mud slinging that's been going on for decades and >> going no

Re: [Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread Yusdi Santoso
Hi Jurgis, I actually started something similar in 2007: http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/users/santoso/Software.WebLab.html My biggest hurdle was (as you correctly noticed) the lack of secure sandbox environment for Python. Even though my code would allow you to execute arbitrary Python code over

[Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)

2008-12-15 Thread Jurgis Pralgauskis
Hello, it would make python more attractive, if there would be possibility to try it online like ruby has http://tryruby.hobix.com maybe this could be made with jython , http://code.google.com/p/epy/ or crunchy on GAE how difficult it would be to have a secure thing, for people to get interacti

Re: [Edu-sig] What is the Best Way to use Python in the Windows Command Line

2008-12-15 Thread Brian Blais
On Dec 13, 2008, at 9:59 , csev wrote: Is there a way to use an icon and then start the icon an have the current working directory (i.e. to open data files) be the same directory as the Python file? And then is there a way to get the output to stop at the end and not disappear when the pro