Re: [Edu-sig] Python in Secondary Schools

2007-07-16 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Commons license works just as well as GFDL. Take a look at CC-BY-SA for a copyleft license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ Best of luck with your studies, Sven! Please keep us posted and feel free to email me off-list anytime! Kevin Driscoll -- http://kevindriscoll.info/

Re: [Edu-sig] a non-rhetorical question

2007-07-11 Thread Kevin Driscoll
, 600) Kevin On 7/11/07, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/11/07, Kevin Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Three years ago, I was definitely on the lexical path and would have > > expected students to be able to answer Andy's question after a

Re: [Edu-sig] a non-rhetorical question

2007-07-11 Thread Kevin Driscoll
On 7/6/07, Andre Roberge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, this is straying far from the original question. These are kids > that have had a few weeks of instruction (with probably less than 6 > hour of class time per week). What can be reasonably expected of > them? High school CS teacher (at

Re: [Edu-sig] Fwd: PyStart - Python Programming teaching/testing program

2007-05-19 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Definitely worth taking a gander at Hackety Hack, a learning tool based in Ruby. http://hacketyhack.net/ Kevin On 5/19/07, Nicolas Pettiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I relay this answer from Jason Brower that I thank. > > Nicolas > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jason Browe

Re: [Edu-sig] OLPC: $175 and Windows capable

2007-04-30 Thread Kevin Driscoll
On 4/29/07, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So rather than help my competition by furnishing any amount of free > source code, instructional videos and so on (what I've been doing), > I'm now more inclined to give special advantages to inhouse gnu math > teachers who share my ideological l

Re: [Edu-sig] Python for math teachers (Google videos)

2007-01-26 Thread Kevin Driscoll
My students are learning to create screencasts this week as part of a on-going "skillshare" project. Perhaps they can help out next term when they have some more Pythonic Confidence (tm). Kevin On 1/26/07, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/26/07, Kevin Driscol

Re: [Edu-sig] Python for math teachers (Google videos)

2007-01-26 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Screencasting a pythonic math lesson is a great idea. I think the demos you've posted demonstrate the power of the medium however I fear that it will be intimidating to non-programming math teachers. Perhaps a lesson on function composition would be a better starting place. Something difficult fo

Re: [Edu-sig] OLPC (was FYI: PataPata postmortem link)

2006-12-05 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Don't sweat the gatekeepers, nor their philosophical leanings. Deploy your skills at teaching with Python. Students who discover your code will benefit. Teachers who discover your code will benefit. Kevin On 12/5/06, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin Driscoll wrote: >

Re: [Edu-sig] OLPC (was FYI: PataPata postmortem link)

2006-12-04 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Pardon me for stepping in late. One way that edu-sig can get involved with olpc right away is by building a tree of sample Python code for kids to discover as they root around on their little green machines. How many useful, curious, humorous, or mind-altering scripts can we compose in the next f

Re: [Edu-sig] RSA pre college?

2006-09-29 Thread Kevin Driscoll
I love teaching modulo! There are countless ways to create exploratory learning opportunities in which students discover the need for modulo. And once a student starts programming, modulo really starts to feel like the lost operator. This is a situation in which programming yields a new perspect

[Edu-sig] Your dream Linear function class

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Hi y'all, My Pre-Calc peoples are finishing up a refresher unit on Linear Functions. This week, they are working on a "mini-text" with definitions, examples, tips, and tricks. They'll be wiki-izing this work next week. Each unit will follow the same pattern as a way to build a "math portfolio"

[Edu-sig] BASIC?

2006-09-15 Thread Kevin Driscoll
> There's been no loss or leakage of any kind from an engineering point > of view. What leaked away, apparently, was any brains in the math > teaching sector. Mostly bozos over there. The PCjr shipped with beautiful fold-out schematics of every part. It booted into cartridge BASIC. Did the Ma

Re: [Edu-sig] BASIC?

2006-09-15 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Read the article a couple times last night. It poses two difficult questions: one concerning the role of programming in education (re: math texts) and the other is the gradual transformation of the PC from toolset to appliance. For the first case, I think it unreasonable to try to recreate the ex

Re: [Edu-sig] More on teaching about namespaces

2006-09-13 Thread Kevin Driscoll
It took about 150 emails but all of this raw_input() discussion has finally brought us to a revalatory new place! raw_input() and print() are comfy places to begin because that's where my high school Pascal text began. And that's where my college C text began. And that's where "How to think like

Re: [Edu-sig] Python and pre-Calculus

2006-09-08 Thread Kevin Driscoll
ergent, > divergent, periodic and aperiodic. The chaotic is aperiodic. Plus > you can be divergent and aperiodic or convergently periodic (which is > different from settling down to a final limit "at infinity", which you > may never do, even in theory sometimes). > > Her

[Edu-sig] Python and pre-Calculus

2006-09-08 Thread Kevin Driscoll
I'm teaching Pre-Calculus for the first time this year and am hoping to integrate Python as often as possible. My syllabus is focused on exploring functions in various forms, uses, and contexts. The intersections to programming are numerous and beautiful. I'd love to get a brainstorm happening h

[Edu-sig] Oh, the TEACHERS!

2006-09-08 Thread Kevin Driscoll
> I'm sick of these "teachers" you keep talking about. They should all > just go away, and let the real programmers have their jobs. Don't > even *think* about teaching Python if you haven't coded in it > professionally and made real money off it. That's closer to my > attitude than "oh, the tea

Re: [Edu-sig] A python teaching success

2006-07-31 Thread Kevin Driscoll
James, Thanks again for sharing your work. I plan to do the same and it is a struggle! It sounds like you are using a Python + Logo setup. Is it PyLogo? Kevin On 7/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul, 2006 at 11:04PM +0100, Michael spake thus: > > Hi James, >

Re: [Edu-sig] A python teaching success

2006-07-31 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Congratulations! Do you have a curriculum map or syllabus online? I'd love to read about your sequencing. Kevin On 7/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. > >This last academic year, we used Python for the first time in our >introductory programming modules. > >

Re: [Edu-sig] Python Editor / IDE for HS students

2006-07-24 Thread Kevin Driscoll
> I've generally used IDLE as well. I think Vim gets in the way if you > don't have the reflexes. With older adults, there's often a strong > allegiance to a text editor and it's considered presumptuous for a > teacher to specify which one, unless there's a strong rationale for > using something

[Edu-sig] Python Editor / IDE for HS students

2006-07-24 Thread Kevin Driscoll
I'm preparing a new diskimage for a WinXP-based computer lab and deciding the editor or IDE I'll use to teach Python this year. I always include my preference, Vim, but typically my students have used either Textpad or IDLE. Although I like Textpad, I want my lab to be as free as possible so I'm

Re: [Edu-sig] Designing CS...

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll
o the poster. Kevin On 6/20/06, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/20/06, Kevin Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We have regular programming competitions in class ("Slithers") and for > > the last one, I brought in a local programmer to b

Re: [Edu-sig] Designing CS...

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll
In a fascinating turn, few raised any objection to the English emphasis. As regular web users, they understand and value the common language. Some of my in-class examples use Spanish vocabulary for variable names to emphasize the flexibility that exists in naming variables, functions, etc. verses

Re: [Edu-sig] Designing CS...

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll
As my school is not large enough to support such a focused programming curriculum and I want to appeal to many sides of computing / networked culture, I just finished teaching a 10-12th grade elective with ESR's "How to become a hacker" essay as a framework. (See: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hack

[Edu-sig] Pythonic Alg 2, Trig/Func

2006-06-13 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Next year, I'm going to be drafted back into the Math department after a year of exclusively teaching CS. It looks like I'll have a class of 11th graders in either Alg 2 or Trig/Functions. They are kids not on the AP Calc track (possible 12th grade AP Stats candidates.) I'd love to incorporate p

Re: [Edu-sig] new python // and /

2006-05-26 Thread Kevin Driscoll
equal sign ambiguity. Perhaps we could start collecting examples of familiar symbols from mathematics that might confuse a new programmer. Kevin Driscoll ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] Setting a variable's value

2006-05-11 Thread Kevin Driscoll
How timely! I just finished teaching this exact nuance to my 9th graders an hour ago! We began by assigning strings, floats, and integers to a set of variables to demonstrate how variables different from Algebra to Python. When it came to = vs. ==, it was easy to reference the earlier work and s