On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 10:00 +0100, Peter Bowyer wrote:
In the meantime, if anyone wants to read and comment on a 35 page
document on the rationale behind teaching introductory programming
using Python, I have one :)
Yes, please...
Vern
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Indeed. Could we set up a separate Kirby and Arthur list, so those
who enjoy watching their Itchy and Scratchy show antics could do so
somewhere else?
Apologies. I have hardly any more budget for replies to Arthur on
any but narrow topics related to his curriculum writing around PyGeo
(have
At 13:50 11/04/2006, kirby urner wrote:
I have hardly any more budget for replies to Arthur on
any but narrow topics related to his curriculum writing around PyGeo
(have you seen it?).
No, and at present I'm not bothered :) Maths education isn't my thing.
Is it better than Zelle's?
Not at all.
Peter Bowyer schrieb:
At 01:39 11/04/2006, Andre Roberge wrote:
... In the meantime, if anyone wants to read and comment on a 35 page
document on the rationale behind teaching introductory programming
using Python, I have one :)
Me too, please ...
Gregor
Kind regards,
Peter
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On 4/11/06, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, and at present I'm not bothered :) Maths education isn't my thing.
OK, I see that. Catching up on your blog.
Kirby
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On Apr 11, 2006, at 7:50 AM, kirby urner wrote:
In the meantime, if anyone wants to read and comment on a 35 page
document on the rationale behind teaching introductory programming
using Python, I have one :)
Please count me in.
Is it better than Zelle's? I think the pro Python case has
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:32:37 -0700
From: Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)
The attention and discussion that used to go on on this list
about Python and education. When you post at a ration approaching,
and at times
On Apr 11, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Scott David Daniels wrote:One idea I had some time ago is using Python for visualizations.In particular, I once built an iterator-based visualization of DBquery processing (based on old collaborative work with my erstwhileoffice-mate Bennet Vance) that makes it
For example, I don't buy that it's an either/or situation. You seem
to think a Klein-reading Euclid-drawing subgenius, properly suspicious
of Bucky (maybe armed with a few Bucky jokes) can't suddenly jump up
and run over to an Alice workstation, there to play with cute skiing
bunnies and other
kirby urner wrote:
For example, I don't buy that it's an either/or situation. You seem
to think a Klein-reading Euclid-drawing subgenius, properly suspicious
of Bucky (maybe armed with a few Bucky jokes) can't suddenly jump up
and run over to an Alice workstation, there to play with cute skiing
CS and hard science and Alice being mentioned as an alternative.
Willamette University is offering an art major centered around
computers. For a lot of kids, the big question is: how do I get a
job making Shrek type movies or with Industrial Light and Magic. They
hear (correctly) that it
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From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:56 am
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)
CS and hard science and Alice being mentioned as an alternative.
Willamette University is offering an art major centered around
computers
So you argree that Alice is overreaching and out-of-line with a statement like
Alice is not big on my radar. It's not even a Python project. When
it comes to protecting the integrity of CS from watering down, I look
to people stronger than you to fight the dumbing down influences.
I think
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From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)
So you argree that Alice is overreaching and out-of-line with a
statement like
Alice is not big on my radar.
Glad to hear it.
It's
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From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)
Are comments by me, here going to influence outcomes.
Probably not. Worth a shot? What's to lose.
Let some people go with Alice
I look to to me less ungenerous than you look to me.
Must be just the point of view.
Art
Anyway, PyGeo is online, free, downloadable, and kids grooving on it
(might be several) will have the power themselves to figure the
redistro angle, via apt-get or whatever. It's what they know. You,
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From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alice is not big on my radar.
Glad to hear it.
It's not even a Python project.
It is brought up here and now specifically in the context of it having been
noted
at U of Mich as competition to and with a Python project,
*
Carnegie Mellon Collaborates with EA to Revolutionize And Reinvigorate
Computer Science Education in the US**
*http://www.alice.org/index2.html
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For the record - rather its on the record, *here* - is the fact that I
have been following Alice with a good degree of horror for some 5 years.
For the record, I'm somewhat interested in what you're *for* but what
you're against I don't pay much attention to. You've goofed up too
much. What
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From: kirby urner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Arthur
You've goofed up too much. What more need I say?
You needn't say even that.
But you have. ;)
Art
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