Re: [Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-21 Thread Arthur
John Zelle wrote: > >VPython runs a GTK (I think) event loop in a separate thread, to stay >interactive in IDLE. > I believe this is true on Unix, but that VPython uses a native OpenGL capable window on Windows. It has seemed to me that VPython event loop handling is problematic. The IDLE ev

Re: [Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-21 Thread John Zelle
Scott David Daniels wrote: > Kirby Urner wrote: > > >>Speculation on my part. On target? > > > Sounds right, but I really haven't investigated beyond learning how to > get back to the point where I can experiment with TkInter interactively. > There is so much more learning possible with the

Re: [Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-21 Thread Gregor Lingl
Scott David Daniels schrieb: > Andy Judkis wrote: > ... > >>Livewires graphics routines behave differently under Python 2.4.1 than they >>... > you can start Idle with the "separate process" feature disabled by > changing the idle startup from something like: "python ...idle.pyw" > to something

Re: [Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-20 Thread Scott David Daniels
Kirby Urner wrote: > Speculation on my part. On target? Sounds right, but I really haven't investigated beyond learning how to get back to the point where I can experiment with TkInter interactively. There is so much more learning possible with the immediate feedback, that it is worth (to me) th

Re: [Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-20 Thread Kirby Urner
> Hope this helps and is clear enough. Happy instructing. > > --Scott David Daniels > [EMAIL PROTECTED] We also ended up using this -n switch when I taught Python to home schoolers at FreeGeek that time (Rita's class).[1] I think because the one Python executable was in some shared bin on the

Re: [Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-20 Thread Scott David Daniels
Andy Judkis wrote: ... > Livewires graphics routines behave differently under Python 2.4.1 than they > do under 2.2.3. Under 2.4.1, in IDLE, if I interactively run from livewires import * begin_graphics() circle(100,100,50, filled=True) circle(300,300,70) end_graphics() > then

[Edu-sig] question about livewires package. . .

2005-11-19 Thread Andy Judkis
Hello, I have a very nuts-and-bolts question for you folks. I have found that the Livewires graphics routines behave differently under Python 2.4.1 than they do under 2.2.3. Specifically, under the former, in IDLE, if I interactively run >>> from livewires import * >>> begin_graphics() >>> ci