Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Hey there, Ah, ok, thanks for that. I've never heard of this being the case, which is why I was interested to hear if there was any data behind it. All the best, Sara On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 04:02, Alexandre Hocquet < alexandre.hocq...@univ-lorraine.fr> wrote: > On 18/02/2019 11:38, Sara

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

On 18/02/2019 11:38, Sara Thomas wrote: Hi there Alexandre, Thanks for sharing.  I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of your source for the line: /"//The major part of them come from representatives of actresses seeking to remove from the encyclopedia the (true) birthdate

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

On 18/02/2019 17:36, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: I don't believe we disagree, no, at least completely. Analysis, when I guess you're right. I guess our argument is distorted by mixing general prinicples about proper sourcing and a particuler case that actually does not exist. It is my

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Hello Alexandre, Alexandre Hocquet escreveu no dia segunda, 18/02/2019 à(s) 04:53: > On 16/02/2019 21:30, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > > I confess that my knowlege of what is actually and routinely going on in > OTRS is based on indirect (and partial) observation (and I'd like to > know more

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Hi there Alexandre, Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of your source for the line: *"**The major part of them come from representatives of actresses seeking to remove from the encyclopedia the (true) birthdate of their clients."* Many thanks! Sara On

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

On 16/02/2019 21:30, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: Dear Paulo, OTRS can be used to verify and certify any kind of private information, not only identity of people. In Wikipedia we generally and usually send people to OTRS when they want to prove such kind of thing as their birthdate, without

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Hello Alexandre, I believe we would easily agree that an ID card presented by someone is by default and in general immensely more reliable than any newspaper or random biographer or historian stating whatever without mentioning what their source is. That's why I don't see the point of asking for

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing! On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 1:54 PM Avery Jensen wrote: > Thank you for your own fact-checking. Not all of those publications are > considered "reliable sources" by Wikipedia. It will be interesting to see > if any of them prints a retraction, or if this

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

On 16/02/2019 12:18, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: "/what Wikipedia actually requires: not primary sources like birth certificates, but secondary ones – publicly available sources in which her birthdate is mentioned./" -> This is not exactly true.

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

"*what Wikipedia actually requires: not primary sources like birth certificates, but secondary ones – publicly available sources in which her birthdate is mentioned.*" -> This is not exactly true. That would be the kind of document that could be

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

In that case, all the citations in your piece should be able to pass any edit filters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_220#Daily_Mail_RfC Thanks for the chuckle. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:15 PM Alexandre Hocquet < alexandre.hocq...@univ-lorraine.fr>

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

On 15/02/2019 22:54, Avery Jensen wrote: Thank you for your own fact-checking.  Not all of those publications are considered "reliable sources" by Wikipedia. Thanks Avery, The careful (hyperlink-savvy) reader will find a hidden tribute to the best UN-reliable newspaper in the world, as

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

On 15/02/2019 19:37, Pine W wrote: When I read your article I am concerned about this statement: "Some advice for Olivia Colman: rather than “sending an e-mail to Wikipedia”, she can edit Wikipedia herself, like everyone else". That comes across to me as encouraging violation of English

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Thank you for your own fact-checking. Not all of those publications are considered "reliable sources" by Wikipedia. It will be interesting to see if any of them prints a retraction, or if this gets added to her article as a "controversy". For anyone who is interested, the Wikipedia policy on

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Hi Alexandre, Thanks for sharing your op-ed and for requesting comments. When I read your article I am concerned about this statement: "Some advice for Olivia Colman: rather than “sending an e-mail to Wikipedia”, she can edit Wikipedia herself, like everyone else". That comes across to me as

Re: [Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

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[Wikimedia Education] No, Wikipedia didn’t get actress Olivia Colman’s birthdate wrong

Dear Education listers, As a historian of science in higher education, I have been developping a course focusing on Wikipedia in recent years, and some may have heard of the WikiMOOC I presented at Wikimania MOntreal (though I only played a modest role in the WikiMOOC saga) My course is