Re: [edx-code] Re: Improving theming in Open edX

2016-10-19 Thread Shauna Gordon-McKeon
To follow up on Doug's question --

I know that many of you have shared your issues re: theming several times,
and I'm sorry that you're being asked to repeat yourselves.  If you'd like
to update this wiki page (https://openedx.atlassian.net/
wiki/display/FEDX/Challenges+with+comprehensive+theming+in+Eucalyptus) to
include more information about some of the problems you've faced, that's a
good way to make an easily accessible record that the community and the
working group can reference moving forward.

I will also be sharing the results of our survey next week, which will have
more details about pain points for themers.  If folks don't want to wait,
email me off-list and I can send you the current results, minus anything
that has been marked confidential.

best
Shauna


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 3:46 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Giulio,
>
> We do in fact make use of a private theme repo here at edX for certain
> projects. Can you expand upon the "pain themers have to go through"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Doug
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 5:40:08 PM UTC-4, Giulio Gratta wrote:
>>
>> I think the most important thing you guys at edX can and should do is
>> move to your own externally managed (private repo) theme.
>>
>> This will both reduce the likely-hood of other sites/instances using your
>> color scheme/trademarks, and also make sure you understand the pain themers
>> have to go through.
>>
>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:36:57 AM UTC-7, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> In the couple of months since I’ve joined edX, I’ve heard a lot of
>>> discussion in the community about theming.  Given the level of interest in
>>> and trouble with theming, we’ve decided to go beyond dealing with each
>>> problem on a case by case basis, and see if we can address some of the
>>> underlying issues - together.
>>>
>>> We have a pretty solid understanding of the main issues with theming
>>> (summarized here) and a decent sense of what’s important to you, but we’d
>>> like to get a more systematic sense of your priorities.  To that end, we’ve
>>> created a survey: http://bit.ly/2dZwVmP.  If you care at all about
>>> theming, please fill it out!
>>>
>>> If the survey indicates enough interest, we’re going to launch a working
>>> group to tackle these problems within the next couple of weeks.  Of course,
>>> “launching a working group” is something we’re also trying to clarify and
>>> redefine, so I understand if some of you feel a little in the dark about
>>> what the next steps actually will be.  The very short version is “we’ll
>>> work with the community to improve our design and implementation plans for
>>> to reflect your needs and priorities, and then some combination of edX
>>> teams and Open edX community members will implement those changes”.  If
>>> you’re interested in helping define how working groups work, please check
>>> out the discussion here: https://docs.google.com/docume
>>> nt/d/1B3zTtL4g1F9a98DGCAIoRHZc50K26sroLgjPf7lRICo
>>>
>>> As always, please feel free to ask questions, give feedback, etc.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Shauna
>>>
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[edx-code] Re: Improving theming in Open edX

2016-10-19 Thread 'Mike Bifulco' via General Open edX discussion
Giulio is absolutely spot on.  I continue to be shocked by the apparent 
absence of anyone at edX who has ever used theming... and I'm thankful for 
a community that's willing to help one-another through figuring out how it 
works.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 5:40:08 PM UTC-4, Giulio Gratta wrote:
>
> I think the most important thing you guys at edX can and should do is move 
> to your own externally managed (private repo) theme.
>
> This will both reduce the likely-hood of other sites/instances using your 
> color scheme/trademarks, and also make sure you understand the pain themers 
> have to go through.
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:36:57 AM UTC-7, Shauna Gordon-McKeon 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> In the couple of months since I’ve joined edX, I’ve heard a lot of 
>> discussion in the community about theming.  Given the level of interest in 
>> and trouble with theming, we’ve decided to go beyond dealing with each 
>> problem on a case by case basis, and see if we can address some of the 
>> underlying issues - together.
>>
>> We have a pretty solid understanding of the main issues with theming 
>> (summarized here) and a decent sense of what’s important to you, but we’d 
>> like to get a more systematic sense of your priorities.  To that end, we’ve 
>> created a survey: http://bit.ly/2dZwVmP.  If you care at all about 
>> theming, please fill it out!
>>
>> If the survey indicates enough interest, we’re going to launch a working 
>> group to tackle these problems within the next couple of weeks.  Of course, 
>> “launching a working group” is something we’re also trying to clarify and 
>> redefine, so I understand if some of you feel a little in the dark about 
>> what the next steps actually will be.  The very short version is “we’ll 
>> work with the community to improve our design and implementation plans for 
>> to reflect your needs and priorities, and then some combination of edX 
>> teams and Open edX community members will implement those changes”.  If 
>> you’re interested in helping define how working groups work, please check 
>> out the discussion here: 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B3zTtL4g1F9a98DGCAIoRHZc50K26sroLgjPf7lRICo
>>
>> As always, please feel free to ask questions, give feedback, etc.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Shauna 
>>
>

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[edx-code] Re: Improving theming in Open edX

2016-10-17 Thread Giulio Gratta
I think the most important thing you guys at edX can and should do is move 
to your own externally managed (private repo) theme.

This will both reduce the likely-hood of other sites/instances using your 
color scheme/trademarks, and also make sure you understand the pain themers 
have to go through.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:36:57 AM UTC-7, Shauna Gordon-McKeon wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> In the couple of months since I’ve joined edX, I’ve heard a lot of 
> discussion in the community about theming.  Given the level of interest in 
> and trouble with theming, we’ve decided to go beyond dealing with each 
> problem on a case by case basis, and see if we can address some of the 
> underlying issues - together.
>
> We have a pretty solid understanding of the main issues with theming 
> (summarized here) and a decent sense of what’s important to you, but we’d 
> like to get a more systematic sense of your priorities.  To that end, we’ve 
> created a survey: http://bit.ly/2dZwVmP.  If you care at all about 
> theming, please fill it out!
>
> If the survey indicates enough interest, we’re going to launch a working 
> group to tackle these problems within the next couple of weeks.  Of course, 
> “launching a working group” is something we’re also trying to clarify and 
> redefine, so I understand if some of you feel a little in the dark about 
> what the next steps actually will be.  The very short version is “we’ll 
> work with the community to improve our design and implementation plans for 
> to reflect your needs and priorities, and then some combination of edX 
> teams and Open edX community members will implement those changes”.  If 
> you’re interested in helping define how working groups work, please check 
> out the discussion here: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B3zTtL4g1F9a98DGCAIoRHZc50K26sroLgjPf7lRICo
>
> As always, please feel free to ask questions, give feedback, etc.
>
> Best
>
> Shauna 
>

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Re: [edx-code] Re: Improving theming in Open edX

2016-10-17 Thread Shauna Gordon-McKeon
Yes, I can!  Thanks for catching that.

The link is this one:
https://openedx.atlassian.net/wiki/display/FEDX/Challenges+with+comprehensive+theming+in+Eucalyptus

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Stuart O'Day  wrote:

> Hi Shauna,
>
>Can you provide the link to "(summarized here)"?
>
> Thanks,
> Stuart
>
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 12:36:57 PM UTC-4, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> In the couple of months since I’ve joined edX, I’ve heard a lot of
>> discussion in the community about theming.  Given the level of interest in
>> and trouble with theming, we’ve decided to go beyond dealing with each
>> problem on a case by case basis, and see if we can address some of the
>> underlying issues - together.
>>
>> We have a pretty solid understanding of the main issues with theming
>> (summarized here) and a decent sense of what’s important to you, but we’d
>> like to get a more systematic sense of your priorities.  To that end, we’ve
>> created a survey: http://bit.ly/2dZwVmP.  If you care at all about
>> theming, please fill it out!
>>
>> If the survey indicates enough interest, we’re going to launch a working
>> group to tackle these problems within the next couple of weeks.  Of course,
>> “launching a working group” is something we’re also trying to clarify and
>> redefine, so I understand if some of you feel a little in the dark about
>> what the next steps actually will be.  The very short version is “we’ll
>> work with the community to improve our design and implementation plans for
>> to reflect your needs and priorities, and then some combination of edX
>> teams and Open edX community members will implement those changes”.  If
>> you’re interested in helping define how working groups work, please check
>> out the discussion here: https://docs.google.com/docume
>> nt/d/1B3zTtL4g1F9a98DGCAIoRHZc50K26sroLgjPf7lRICo
>>
>> As always, please feel free to ask questions, give feedback, etc.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Shauna
>>
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[edx-code] Re: Improving theming in Open edX

2016-10-17 Thread Stuart O'Day
Hi Shauna,

   Can you provide the link to "(summarized here)"?

Thanks,
Stuart


On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 12:36:57 PM UTC-4, Shauna Gordon-McKeon 
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> In the couple of months since I’ve joined edX, I’ve heard a lot of 
> discussion in the community about theming.  Given the level of interest in 
> and trouble with theming, we’ve decided to go beyond dealing with each 
> problem on a case by case basis, and see if we can address some of the 
> underlying issues - together.
>
> We have a pretty solid understanding of the main issues with theming 
> (summarized here) and a decent sense of what’s important to you, but we’d 
> like to get a more systematic sense of your priorities.  To that end, we’ve 
> created a survey: http://bit.ly/2dZwVmP.  If you care at all about 
> theming, please fill it out!
>
> If the survey indicates enough interest, we’re going to launch a working 
> group to tackle these problems within the next couple of weeks.  Of course, 
> “launching a working group” is something we’re also trying to clarify and 
> redefine, so I understand if some of you feel a little in the dark about 
> what the next steps actually will be.  The very short version is “we’ll 
> work with the community to improve our design and implementation plans for 
> to reflect your needs and priorities, and then some combination of edX 
> teams and Open edX community members will implement those changes”.  If 
> you’re interested in helping define how working groups work, please check 
> out the discussion here: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B3zTtL4g1F9a98DGCAIoRHZc50K26sroLgjPf7lRICo
>
> As always, please feel free to ask questions, give feedback, etc.
>
> Best
>
> Shauna 
>

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