Re: [Ekiga-list] my config.xml file with comments

[yannick]

Le samedi 17 octobre 2015 à 16:31 -0700, Chris Tidal Wave a écrit :
> Please delete my privious email and do not post it to the
> distribution list.
>  
> It contains information that I accidentally sent to the ekiga list.

I'm sorry we do not have the power to do such thing. Those datas are
now inside a lot of computers worldwide, under a lot different
legislation. They even are now on web archives which has been acceded
by a lot of unknown people.

Please consider this as a security breach and take appropriate mesures
on your side to secure your system. (i.e. mesures that would turn those
leaked datas useless).

Regards,
Yannick

>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Chris
>  
> From: Chris Tidal Wave [mailto:ch...@tidalwavetelecom.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:45 PM
> To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
> Subject: my config.xml file with comments
>  
>  
>  
> Best Regards,
> ~~Chris
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga SIP presence

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 05 février 2014 à 21:57 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> On 05/02/14 21:49, Yannick wrote:
> > Le mercredi 05 février 2014 à 21:14 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> >> On 05/02/14 20:47, Yannick wrote:
> >>> Le mercredi 05 février 2014 à 20:15 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> >>>> Le 05/02/14 16:48, John Lane a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 05/02/14 13:10, Damien Sandras wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 05/02/14 11:35, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 03/02/14 13:12, John Lane wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was wondering if it is possible to get Ekiga presence
> >>>>>>>> (online/offline)
> >>>>>>>> to embed in a web page?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have seen mention of a script
> >>>>>>>> http://www.ekiga.org/news/2007-05-22/presence-button
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> However this appears to be gone: Not Found. The requested URL
> >>>>>>>> /status/presence.php was not found on this server."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This was perhaps removed when upgrading ekiga.net.  Any idea,
> >>>>>>> Damien, Yannick?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_button
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, I had broken the configuration but it is now back.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I see it's back but it returns this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> document.write(" >>>>> border='0' width='171' height='45' alt='My status' />");
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should it not just return the image?
> >>>
> >>> Use this page instead:
> >>> http://www.ekiga.net/yannick/helper.php
> >>
> >> Could this page be moved to the wiki, for ex. at
> >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_button ?
> >
> > Well... It is there already.
> 
> Indeed, but I meant move the *text* to the wiki, and remove 
> /yannick/helper.php file.  The goal is to have all the documentation in 
> one place instead of several Seb sites.
> 

This page is somewhat a "helper" : you can try the button on it, see the
actual result of the code you'll past. We can't do it in the wiki. I
find it more convenient to have the ability to test it.

> (For ex., I plan to create a wiki page called "Utilities" where we will 
> put this web button.)
> 


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga SIP presence

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 05 février 2014 à 21:14 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> On 05/02/14 20:47, Yannick wrote:
> > Le mercredi 05 février 2014 à 20:15 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> >> Le 05/02/14 16:48, John Lane a écrit :
> >>
> >>> On 05/02/14 13:10, Damien Sandras wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Le 05/02/14 11:35, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 03/02/14 13:12, John Lane wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was wondering if it is possible to get Ekiga presence
> >>>>>> (online/offline)
> >>>>>> to embed in a web page?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have seen mention of a script
> >>>>>> http://www.ekiga.org/news/2007-05-22/presence-button
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However this appears to be gone: Not Found. The requested URL
> >>>>>> /status/presence.php was not found on this server."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This was perhaps removed when upgrading ekiga.net.  Any idea,
> >>>>> Damien, Yannick?
> >>>>>
> >>>> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_button
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I had broken the configuration but it is now back.
> >>>>
> >>> I see it's back but it returns this:
> >>>
> >>> document.write(" >>> border='0' width='171' height='45' alt='My status' />");
> >>>
> >>> Should it not just return the image?
> >
> > Use this page instead:
> > http://www.ekiga.net/yannick/helper.php
> 
> Could this page be moved to the wiki, for ex. at 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_button ?

Well... It is there already.

> 


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga SIP presence

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 05 février 2014 à 20:15 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le 05/02/14 16:48, John Lane a écrit :
> 
> > On 05/02/14 13:10, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > 
> > > Le 05/02/14 11:35, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> > > 
> > > > On 03/02/14 13:12, John Lane wrote: 
> > > > > Hello, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was wondering if it is possible to get Ekiga presence
> > > > > (online/offline) 
> > > > > to embed in a web page? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have seen mention of a script 
> > > > > http://www.ekiga.org/news/2007-05-22/presence-button 
> > > > > 
> > > > > However this appears to be gone: Not Found. The requested URL 
> > > > > /status/presence.php was not found on this server." 
> > > > 
> > > > This was perhaps removed when upgrading ekiga.net.  Any idea,
> > > > Damien, Yannick? 
> > > > 
> > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_button
> > > 
> > > No, I had broken the configuration but it is now back.
> > > 
> > I see it's back but it returns this:
> > 
> > document.write(" > border='0' width='171' height='45' alt='My status' />");
> > 
> > Should it not just return the image?

Use this page instead:
http://www.ekiga.net/yannick/helper.php

> > 
> > And are there options for different images (like one that's a bit smaller?)
> No idea. I'm cc'ing Yannick, the author of that code so that he can
> tell you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga websites outage

[Yannick]

Le samedi 18 janvier 2014 à 18:44 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Good evening,
> 
> Due to a bad manipulation on my side, Ekiga websites are currently
> down.
> 

On my end, those are working:
http://ekiga.org/
https://ekiga.im/index.php (replace the URL for ekiga.net)

but ekiga.net is indeed broken atm.

> I am not sure when the service will be back. I apologize for this.
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Best Wishes for 2014

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 01 janvier 2014 à 10:44 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Good morning everyone,
> 
> Let me wish you a Happy New Year !
> 
Happy new year ! Thank you Damien !

My best wishes to everyone.

> I will work this year for an Ekiga come back, with tons of new
> features and improvements, both for the softphone and for the
> Ekiga.net platform.
> 
I'll give a hand for the platform.

> You can expect a 5.0 release before spring. That will be the first
> step.

Good news ! I've Gnome 3.10 running ; I'll test on it.

Yannick
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga use license (commercial use?) & Ekiga/Diamondcard software questions

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 16 octobre 2013 à 14:13 -0400, Stuart Gathman a écrit :
> On 10/16/2013 01:55 PM, zanag...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > So, then, where the license says "The act of running the Program is
> > not restricted" is where it grants the rights for anyone to use the
> > software to make & receive phone calls for commercial purposes? (in
> > order to make a profit)
> > 
> > Do I have that correct?

Yes. This is generally referred as the "freedom 0" by Richard Stallman,
the creator of this license.

This page explain the philosophy of the GPL in common words:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
"The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
../..
“Free software” does not mean “noncommercial”. A free program must be
available for commercial use, commercial development, and commercial
distribution."

Side note : people in general start counting from 1, but in the computer
field people have the habit to start from 0.
> > 
> > (To be clear, in my above question, I'm not referring to making
> > money off of the actual software itself, in any way.)

You also can make money with Ekiga itself, but in this case you need to
comply to some rules explained in the GPL. The purpose of those rules is
to protect the freedom of all users of Ekiga, including their freedom to
use it for commercial purpose. 

The whole purpose of the GPL is to prevent anyone to mess with what
you're doing with Ekiga as a user, your activity being commercial or
not. That's the reason why the GPL do not talk much about the usage of
the software. Simply put, the more a license speaks about the usage of
the software, the more you are restricted as a user.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what is meant by "output from the Program" in the above
> > license quote.  Would someone be able to interpret and briefly
> > summarize what that means?  (I want to understand whether or not
> > that part applies to me.)
> Output from the program refers to meta-programs.  :-)  I.e. programs
> like compilers, code generators, etc. - software that writes software.
> As a (not real) example, suppose Ekiga had a button labelled "Copy
> Me!", which created a nice installer for ekiga to send to someone
> else.  (That is a trivial - in theory - example of software that
> writes software.)  That copy would be subject to GPL.
> 
> Note that there is *no* restriction on selling, or making a profit by
> distributing the program.   You simply *must* provide the source code
> (free or at nominal charge) when doing so.  If you were to get ekiga
> all configured, with a really easy installer, then you could
> conceivably sell it - provided you include, or make easily available,
> the source for ekiga *and* any modifications to ekiga.  Of course, a
> competitor can use the source to create a competing product - so you
> have to have some other factor that would make customers want to buy
> *yours*.  Maybe your support or warranty - as suggested in the licence
> itself.  Perhaps you have a book or manual to go with it that details
> your sales techniques.
> 
> The GPL is *not* against profit.  It is against using restricted
> source code as a "lock-in".  GPL software can be, and is part of
> profitable businesses.  They just need other sorts of "lock-in".
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga use license (commercial use?) & Ekiga/Diamondcard software questions

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 16 octobre 2013 à 00:34 -0400, zanag...@aol.com a écrit :
> Hello folks.
> 
> I just joined this forum in hopes that you all would be so kind as to
> help me answer a couple questions.
> 
> 
> First, in case this is helpful information in answering my questions:
> 
> I am looking to use my home PC to: (1) make outgoing phone calls to
> others with land lines and mobile phones; and to: (2) receive incoming
> phone calls from others with land lines and mobile phones.
> 
> 
> My first question:
> 
> I saw the GNU license for Ekiga at:
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
> 
> (I apologize if the answer to my next question is there.  I wasn't
> able to find it.)
> 
> Can you please tell me if it is permissible under the Ekiga use
> license to use the Ekiga software & Ekiga soft phone to make/receive
> phone calls with my home PC (as stated above) for the purposes of
> seeking/soliciting and conducting business (for a self-employed
> independent freelance home-based business)?
> 
> 
Yes, you can. In fact this licence grant you the right to use this
software for any purpose.

Here is the license :
https://git.gnome.org/browse/ekiga/tree/COPYING?id=EKIGA_4_0_1

The interesting part for you is :
"Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
covered by this License; they are outside its scope.  The act of
running the Program is not restricted, and the output from the Program
is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the
Program (independent of having been made by running the Program).
Whether that is true depends on what the Program does."

> And my next questions:
> 
> I hope you don't mind my asking -- If Diamondcard has its own soft
> phone, then do I still require the Ekiga software & Ekiga soft phone?


Any software using the SIP protocol will do, no matter if endorsed by
diamondcard.us.

But please consider you are then using 2 thing : the ekiga software and
a service provided by diamondcard. You should check if diamondcard is
suitable for your activity. Ekiga and diamondcard are not directly
related.
> 
> If not, what would be the benefits of using the Ekiga software & Ekiga
> soft phone over using the Diamondcard software & Diamondcard soft
> phone? (assuming that what I would use it for was to be limited to
> what I stated above towards the beginning of this e-mail)
> 
It's up to you to do the comparison and find what better suits you. We
are committed to standards.

Best regards,
Yannick
> 
> Thanks much!
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Re: [Ekiga-list] usability

[Yannick]

Le jeudi 05 septembre 2013 à 14:21 +0900, fred k a écrit :
> > ... you do *not* have [to] do/know all that if you use a
> commercial...
> I have a question. When you use commercial SIP provider, do you mean
> your voice/video/data goes through a server at the SIP provider before
> reaching called party (i.e., non-peer-to-peer model)? If this is the
> case, why NAT problems goes away? (Pointer to this ML archive or
> another appreciated to save your time.) My understanding is that in
> Ekiga (or SIP in general, possibly), called party address to IP
> address:port translation is done at the SIP server and following
> call-setup/negotiations and payload communications are peer-to-peer. 

I assume he was referring to a SIP proxy, i.e. the commercial SIP
provider provide a proxy to relay the communications (audio, video, i.e.
the RTP steams). In this case it is not end-to-end anymore, but it is
part of the SIP specification. This can solve the NAT issue.

The solution to avoid having a commercial provider and solve the NAT
issue is something like the p2psip effort:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P2psip
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/p2psip/current/maillist.html

Beside, we could improve the ekiga tools for supporting NAT with an ICE
implementation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Connectivity_Establishment
Even if it will cover most cases and improve Ekiga, ICE will probably
not be enough without a proxy somewhere, which p2psip try to implement
directly in all clients.

And I doubt IPV6 will solve this issue, as it will probably remains bad
habits from some people to put NAT, justifying it by "security", even if
the specification try explicitly to avoid NATs. Still IPv6 will
certainly help a lot.

Regards,
Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga as fax carrier

[Yannick]

Le mardi 25 juin 2013 à 13:57 +0800, Bret Busby a écrit :
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Genghis Khan wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 04:30:38
> > From: Genghis Khan 
> > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list 
> > To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
> > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga as fax carrier
> > 
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:26:07 +0200
> > Eugen Dedu  wrote:
> >
> >> On 21/06/13 18:01, geo cherchetout wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I can send faxes using Ekiga. :-) It is in french, sorry, but I know
> >>> many people here can read it:
> >>>
> >>> http://cherchetout.pagesperso-orange.fr/FaxOverVoIP.html
> >>
> >> Interesting... I added some words about it at
> >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Manual#Introduction, thank you!
> >>
> >
> > It sounds important. May you or any other french speaker please
> > translate this document?
> >
> 
> I think that Google has a facility for translation between languages - 
> something like "translate this page".

In one hand, this seems a fun way to hack a bit of hardware to get the
fax feature. In the other hand, the Opal stack of ekiga has support for
fax and some software hacking could provide full software support for
fax in Ekiga.

Btw, thank you for this tutorial.

Ref. http://www.opalvoip.org/wiki/index.php?n=Main.FaxSupport

In the table "Connecting a fax to the internet" provided in the link
above, the use case here seems to be raw PCM/Audio RTP + connecting an
hardware fax to the audio output of the PC and the serial port.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] [GUADEC 2013 Proposal]

[Yannick]

Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 à 09:37 -0300, Jim Diamond a écrit :
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 18:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote:
> 
> > On 16/05/13 17:47, Jim Diamond wrote:
> >>On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 16:31 (+0200), Eugen Dedu wrote:
> 
> >>>On 16/05/13 16:03, Jim Diamond wrote:
> As an(other?) example, I am having no luck when behind a NAT router.
> I see no gui option to set up STUN.  I search the web a bit and find
> out I need to use gconf-editor.  Too bad that it doesn't exist on
> 
> >>>You can use gconftool to modify the stun server.  You can even modify
> >>>the file itself, in ~/.gconf directory.
> 
> >>Eugen,
> 
> >>thanks.  I have no problem editing files by hand, but...
> >>you say "the file".  But there are currently 22 files under there.  It
> >>is not completely obvious
> >>- what file needs editing;
> >>- what directory that file should be in; and
> >>- what syntax is required.
> >>(None of the files I currently have contain the string "stun", so I am
> >>starting from square 1.  No doubt if I read enough docs or search the
> >>web, I will find it (... yep, "apps/general/nat" is the file), but I
> >>can't help but think that one or two "custom" config files would be
> >>just as easy as using gconf, and thus removing a dependency from what
> >>could be ("should be" in my humble opinion) desktop-neutral program.)

If I remember correctly, there is an option, probably the disable-gconf
one, to store the configuration of Ekiga in one single file. AFAIK this
work was done for the windows port which lacks gconf, by Snark. I do not
know if you can use it under GNU/Linux.

> 
> > Damien is working to replace gconf by gsettings, I think this fixes
> > your concerns, is that right?
> 
> Well, maybe.  If I knew what the name of my schema was or whether I
> should use schemadir, and what path I want, and the name of the key,
> it would probably be easy to use.  But knowing all that probably means
> I could just create the right file in the right place with my
> favourite text editor.
> 
> I'm guessing that someone who uses gnome on a regular basis knows and
> can do this stuff in their sleep.  However, getting back on the "why
> does ekiga want to be a gnome-specific tool" bandwagon, there are
> those of us who, for one reason or another, don't use gnome.  And
> learning a bunch of gnome-specific stuff for one program is arguably
> not time well spent.
> 
> Incidentally, if someone wants to update the page
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router
> it says
>How can I easily use Ekiga behind a NAT/PAT gateway?
> 
>   Ekiga has extensive and improved NAT support thanks to
>   STUN. In most cases, you do not have any configuration to do,
>   and you can even be reachable from the outside without any
>   port forwarding: just run the Configuration Assistant until
>   the end.
> which seems to be no longer true.
> 
> Cheers.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please

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Le vendredi 15 février 2013 à 04:16 -0800, Darren Ballegeer a écrit :
> Sorry for my blindness. I went thru the FAQ, but still need to know if I can 
> use Ekiga to make phone calls from my PC. To non-tech folk like me, the scope 
> of the ekiga service is not clear. Thanks
> 
> 

Yes, Ekiga is able to place PC-to-phone calls.

There is a provider built-in (diamoncard) or you can use your own.

There is a small list of tested providers in our wiki here (quite
outdated):
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/List_of_PC_to_phone_providers

PC-to-phone calls is an essential part of the SIP protocol used by Ekiga
(and this is true for H.323 as well, still the H.323 protocol is
nowadays replaced by the SIP protocol)

There is tons of company providing the PC-to-phone service using the SIP
protocol at low rates.

> -Original Message-
> From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Glen 
> Cunningham
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please
> 
> G'day Darren,
> 
> On Thursday 14 February 2013 00:53:54 Darren Ballegeer wrote:
> > Link doesn’t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise...
> 
>On the main page 
> Underneath the heading "Documentation" there are 5 links, the first one is 
> marked "Frequently Asked Questions".  Try that.
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

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Le dimanche 17 février 2013 à 13:31 +0800, Bret Busby a écrit :
> I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to 
> make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet "connected up" 
> with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via 
> Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated,
> and 
> is of low resolution, compared with Skype. 

AFAIK the video codec used in the test call is the worst available i.e.
H.261. This explains the low resolution and the big pixels.

Practically the test call shows if video works, it does not show how
good it can be.

In a call with another client supporting better codec (especially H.264)
the video is much better. You can force ekiga to negotiate only with the
best codec (e.g H.264, or H.263) by deselecting other codecs in
preferences, or put the codec you wish in the top of the list.
Unfortunately the test call will only accept H.261.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please

[Yannick]

Le mercredi 13 février 2013 à 05:53 -0800, Darren Ballegeer a écrit :
> Link doesn’t work and no site of FAQ on wiki. Please advise...

That's weird, here the link works.

The main entrance is here :
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ekiga-list [mailto:ekiga-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Dedu
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:18 PM
> To: Ekiga mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] FAQ please
> 
> On 12/02/13 20:05, Darren Ballegeer wrote:
> > Hi, I see that an FAQ is referenced on your website but no link, etc. 
> > How can I view it? I need info on paid service for non-video calls – 
> > rates, plans, etc.
> 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/FAQ
> 
> But better to take a look at the whole wiki site.
> 
> --
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Binaries and building Ekiga 4.0.0 from sources

[Yannick]

Additional packages :

* Fedora 18: seems official now
cf. http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-package-announce/msg93774.html

* Ubuntu PPA (not tested, WARNING: this PPA includes tons of stuff and
some are low level, be *very* careful using it!):
^^ WARNING
https://launchpad.net/~kalon33/+archive/experimental-stuff


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[Ekiga-list] Binaries and building Ekiga 4.0.0 from sources

[Yannick]

Hi,

Here is a quick review I made about people building Ekiga for various
systems :

Building from sources (of course you have instructions in our wiki...) :

* Linux from scratch:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/xsoft/ekiga.html

Binaries: (Warning: I've no clue how good those packages are...)

* OpenSuse
http://software.opensuse.org/package/ekiga

* Mageia & Fedora
http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=ekiga&submit=Search
+...&system=&arch=

Regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.9.90 [UNSTABLE] available

[Yannick]

The announcement is now visible on http://ekiga.org/

Regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Welcome Victoria !

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Congrats to both parents and welcome to the "bout d'chou" ;)

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Advertisements on Ekiga.org with OpenX?

[Yannick]

Le lundi 30 janvier 2012 à 19:22 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> I'm not against some targetted ads...

How do we select one?

I've read the whole thread, and the technical question is not a hard
thing. But selecting one, having to follow it regarding quality of
service, cost, interoperability etc. is a whole new thing for us and not
a minor task as putting an ad on the web site is.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/

[Yannick]

Le dimanche 15 janvier 2012 à 00:48 +0200, Genghis Khan a écrit :
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:24:08 +0100
> Yannick  wrote:
> 
> > Done. Thank you for the idea.
> > 
> Thank you for your attention.
> 
> Lines 8 and 12 are the same, please omit one.
> 8.   href="http://ekiga.org/rss.xml"; />
> 12.  type="application/rss+xml" title="Ekiga ~ Free Your Speech RSS"
> href="http://ekiga.org/rss.xml"; />

Indeed, and this is a bug. It only appears on the home page. I choose to
not fix it because it would involve either hacking drupal core (which
adds line 12 on the home page) or a module of drupal (which adds line 8
to all pages), but I do not have much spare time and I need to ease the
maintenance, i.e. rely on easy updates. My bad.

The best solution will be an official fix for the module. The bug report
is here: http://drupal.org/node/884746

Regard,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ATOM/RSS News Feeds on http://ekiga.org/

[Yannick]

Le vendredi 13 janvier 2012 à 22:30 +0200, Genghis Khan a écrit :
> Please add the following code and ATOM/RSS News Feeds to all the pages
> of Ekiga.org
> 

Done. Thank you for the idea.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] NO ANSWER

[Yannick]

Le mardi 03 janvier 2012 à 18:04 -0500, mig-sys...@videotron.ca a
écrit :
> 
> I POSTED THAT D 4 REPORT ON DECEMBER 22 + 23 BUT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY  
> FEEDBACK. IS ANYBODY LOOKING INTO THIS OR HAS IT BEEN OVERLOOKED ?
> PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
> AT THE SAME TIME I TRIED EKIGA AND TWINKLE ON UBUTU 11.10 AND HERE I GOT  
> THE OPPOSITE RESULTS, EKIGA DID NOT WORK AT ALL BUT TWINKLE DID - WITH THE  
> SAME PROBLEM, I CAN HEAR THE OTHER SIDE BUT THEY CAN'T HERE ME. I WOULD  
> REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME BETTER RESULTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
> REGARDS.
> MIKE
> _

Hello,

We need the full debug file to understand the issue, please do not cut
the output to what seems relevant.

> (ekiga:1731): libebook-DEBUG: e-book.c:129: EBook GDBus connection
is  
> closed, remote peer vanished
> (ekiga:1731): libebook-DEBUG: e-book.c:129: EBook GDBus connection
is  
> closed, remote peer vanished
> (ekiga:1731): libebook-DEBUG: GDBus connection is closed, remote
peer  
> vanished

There is no SIP protocol in this, thus we cannot understand where the
issue is.

Your issue, having audio going only in one way, _seems_ related to NAT
issue...

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga, debian: cannot make a call

[Yannick]

Le mardi 03 janvier 2012 à 01:29 +0400, Dmitry Shkirmanov a écrit :
> PDU is likely too large (1605 bytes) for UDP datagram.

IMHO the issue is here.

Try to remove some codecs, like audio G726, CELT etc. until the PDU rich
a safe size. (~1500 if I recall correctly)

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga sites are being upgraded, please be patient...

[Yannick]

Hello,

The documentation (wiki) is now back online. Please check if the wiki is
working well and report.

The white pages are back too (LDAP). It seems quicker than before ;)

Thanks goes to Damien Sandras for the work behind the scene :)

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.3.2 [UNSTABLE] available

[Yannick]

Hi,

I updated our website ekiga.org accordingly.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Wiki to be updated

[yannick]

Le vendredi 02 juillet 2010 à 16:55 +0200, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> On 07/02/10 06:57, Yann wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to update the
> > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/HowTo_install_Ekiga_packages#Ubuntu
> > paragraph in order to add a Ubuntu 10.04 section. But I cannot create
> > an account for the wiki. Is it restricted? if yes, please can someone
> > with editing rights add the Ubuntu 10.04 section ?
> 
> Yannick will create you an account, thank you very much!
> 

Done. Yann, please pick up a new password ASAP. (you should get an
email)

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Using telepathy to register to ekiga.net

[yannick]

Le dimanche 20 juin 2010 à 08:39 +0100, Andrea a écrit :
> On 20/06/10 05:14, YannUbuntu wrote:
> > 2010/6/20 Andrea :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to register to ekiga.net using the Ubuntu chat account dialog 
> >> (I think it is using
> >> telepathy).
> >> Can't get it to work. Network Error.
> >>
> >> I've saved the ip traffic with wireshark if anybody has time to have a 
> >> look.
> >> I've read that telepathy/sofiasip used to have issues with NAT/ekiga but 
> >> can't figure out if I've
> >> hit that or it is something else.
> >>
> >> I'm behind a NAT.
> >>
> >> Hope this is not the wrong place for this request.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> > 
> > Hello Andrea,
> > If you are using Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid, you can try to update the opal
> > package by adding ppa:sevmek/ppa to your Software Sources and then
> > update your packages and restart Ekiga.
> > Hope this helps.
> > ~Yann
> 
> I will try that, but I wanted to see if the "Chat Accounts" was going to work.
> I was *not* using Ekiga.
> 
> It seems to send 3 request. 1st and 3rd use my local IP, but the 2nd uses the 
> public IP.
> Don't know enough about sip to understand.
> 

This is documented in the Empathy FAQ:
http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#My_Ekiga_account_doesn.27t_work.
"My Ekiga account doesn't work.
This is a problem in the ekiga.net server. Unfortunately this can't be
fixed in Telepathy because it will break the compatibility with other
SIP servers."

AFAIK, this is indeed an issue with the server configuration, but as
Ekiga use another mecanism for client behind a NAT and as it works with
other servers and is an IETF standard (STUN), you could as well ask
Empathy devs to add this feature in their client. On our side we cannot
fix it in a short time as our server administrator is not available at
the moment...

Sorry for the inconvenience. Empathy should work if not behind a NAT
with our server.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Opening sip-URLs with Ekiga on Windows (out of Firefox)

[yannick]

Le jeudi 17 juin 2010 à 15:18 +0200, Michael Hauptfeld a écrit :
> Hello!
> 
> Does anybody know how I can force Windows, Ekiga or Firefox to open URLs
> like "sip:0...@example.org" or (even better) "sip:012348672" with Ekiga?
> 
> I don't exactly know which of the above is responsible for opening such
> an url.
> 
> I want to collect telephone numbers in a wiki, so that I can call them
> directly by clicking on the telephone number.
> 

There is a bug report about this issue here:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499350

Sometimes ago, I've setup an experimental tool allowing integration of a
web button showing presence here:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/helper.php

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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.2.7 [STABLE] available

[yannick]

Le lundi 31 mai 2010 à 18:59 +0100, Peter Robinson a écrit :
> The release is now built for Fedora rawhide as well as 13/12/11 and
> will be headed to the relevant Fedora updates-testing repositories
> very shortly (likely tomorrow).
> 

I updated our wiki accordingly:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/HowTo_install_Ekiga_packages#Fedora

Thank you very much!

Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] ANNOUNCE - Ekiga 3.2.7 [STABLE] Windows version available

[yannick]

Le lundi 31 mai 2010 à 00:42 +0200, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> This is the seventh stable release of the 3.2 version of Ekiga.

Ekiga 3.2.7 for Windows 32bits is available on Ekiga.org:
http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 3.2.6 can't register my sip address

[yannick]

Le mardi 25 mai 2010 à 16:14 -0500, Luis Felipe López Acevedo a écrit :
> 2010/5/25 Eugen Dedu 
> On 25/05/10 00:13, Luis Felipe López Acevedo wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I'm having problems to use Ekiga 3.2.6. This is what I
> get when I run it:
> 
> http://pastebin.com/ME3GBu2H
> 
> 
> There is no reply to REGISTER packet.  Could you check that
> your firewall does not block the reply (port 5060)?
> 
> 
> I can't find any information about any of my routers blocking that
> port.
> 
> I'm new to these things about routers and ports so I made a drawing of
> my network:
> 
> http://download.tuxfamily.org/introsmedia/temporal/lan.png
> 
> NUTABE and NUTABE-2 are the names of the computers I have in my
> network.
> 
> I'm using Ekiga in NUTABE, and when I run it I get the error message
> that says that it couldn't register my sip address. However, if I
> connect NUTABE directly to the "ADSL router D-Link DSL-500B", Ekiga
> seems to work ok because I can use the echo test. So I think the
> problem is somewhere in the wireless router.
> 
> Just in case, these are screenshots of the ports redirected in my
> routers:
> 
> Wireless router:
> http://download.tuxfamily.org/introsmedia/temporal/d-link-dir-280.png
> ADSL router:
> http://download.tuxfamily.org/introsmedia/temporal/d-link_dsl-500b.png
> 
>  
> 2010/05/24 16:53:23.511   0:05.269
>  subscriber:0xb737db70 SIP Sending PDU (546 bytes) to: rem=udp
> $86.64.162.35:5060,local=udp$190.28.9.2:5060,if=192.168.0.100%
> eth0
> REGISTER sip:ekiga.net SIP/2.0
> CSeq: 1 REGISTER
> Via: SIP/2.0/UDP
> 
> 190.28.9.2:5060;branch=z9hG4bK96857671-ec65-df11-8b7e-001d09921757;rport
> User-Agent: Ekiga/3.2.6
> From:
> ;tag=94c95771-ec65-df11-8b7e-001d09921757
> Call-ID: 7ebc5771-ec65-df11-8b7e-001d09921...@nutabe
> To: 
> Contact: ;q=1,
> ;q=0.500
> Allow:
> INVITE,ACK,OPTIONS,BYE,CANCEL,SUBSCRIBE,NOTIFY,REFER,MESSAGE,INFO,PING
> Expires: 3600
> Content-Length: 0
> Max-Forwards: 70
> 
> Maybe your case is solved by NAT patch, I am not sure, what
> GNU/Linux distribution do you use?  If ubuntu, there is a
> package somewhere on ppa, I advise you to use it.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm using Trisquel GNU/Linux 3.5 (based on Ubuntu Karmic) and the
> version of Ekiga I'm using is from Yannick's PPA. 
> 

Here is 3.2.6+NAT patch:
https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows

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Le lundi 24 mai 2010 à 12:10 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit :
> just in case you didn't know : Visiting ekiga.org with Windows and
> clicking on the download link redirects to
>  http://ekiga.org/undefined 
> 
> 
> 
> i guess you wanted it to redirect to 3.2.7 SVN build which contain
> NSIS eugen (excelent ! ) Fix  ? 

Ok, ok, by popular demand I just fixed it. You can now use the button
for a direct download on the front page for windows.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows

[yannick]

Le mardi 18 mai 2010 à 13:16 -0500, Robert Steinmetz AIA a écrit :
> Thanks for all the work on getting the Windows version updated and
> fixed. I've been waiting a while to test it. 
> For What It's Worth as mentioned above the link on the Ekiga.org
> homepage still leads to a "Page Not Found" error but the "other
> downloads" link below it works and takes you to the download page
> referenced above. 

I know. We plan to release Ekiga 3.2.7 soon. My plan for the website is
to fix everything at the time we will announce it. For now the windows
version is a *pre-release*; as it fix the very bad bug which could erase
user personal datas, it is good enough to be public now.

I do think the less you give the *masses* updates, the more valuable it
is to them. It is quite différent for people having special interest on
our project; for them the more updates, the better. I do use channel of
communication with feedback, like bug reports, the mailing list, forums
etc. and provide them repositories with updated clients in a pre-release
state. This is my personal strategy. As I also am the one dealing with
the website, I find useful to discuss it publicly here. And I just tried
to express it now. I was just doing it before.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows

[yannick]

Le lundi 17 mai 2010 à 19:17 +0200, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
> >>Le vendredi 30 avril 2010 à 10:10 +0200, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> >>>The only major issue which made that it is no longer downloadable is non
> >>>reproducible on my machine, so I cannot fix it.
> 
> Cool. Can we get our download link back, please? Or do we have to go
> through the wiki like the old days? Is the 3.2.7-pre build poisonous?
> 
> Sorry to sound irritated, but the windows build has been only accessible
> through the wiki for *a year* or so. And when it has been finally moved
> to the front page, it's been disabled *without explanation* for what? at
> least a couple of months now. I find this rather tragi-comic.
> 
> (Actually, this is a compliment. I love the software, only for the
> download link.)

You're right to ping us... I've put a new link on the donwload page. 

Eugen, I had to change to the new version up on your web, is it the
release for windows, or do you plan to upgrade it?

Thus Michal, this link might change, but AFAIK it is usable and better
than the previous one.

For the explanation you can find it in this mailing list. I plan to make
an annoucement on Ekiga.org but this will take time. I also have to
change the donwload button on the front page, but as the code is quite
dirty there, it will take a bit of time. But I would like to have this
button and the annouce ready at the same time.

In the meantime, you can use the download page:
http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] unable to add account because GUI lacks controls, under Ekiga 3.2.6 on Ubuntu 10.04

[yannick]

Le lundi 17 mai 2010 à 15:48 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit :
> hello 
> 
> 2010/5/17 Eugen Dedu Well, you should
> have a menu in Accounts dialog box, with Accounts and Help.  I do not
> understand why you do not have it.  Could you see it somewhere...?
> 
> 
> 
> Isn't he using the new feature in 10.04, which puts the menu of the
> app on the top gnome panel? but on the accounts window, this menu did
> not change
> 

Seems to me too. Jack, what is your ubuntu flavor? I just tried
Edubuntu, and there is no such issue.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga for Windows

[yannick]

Le vendredi 30 avril 2010 à 10:10 +0200, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> On 01/04/10 21:21, Robert Steinmetz AIA wrote:
> > Can someone please tell me what the current status of Ekiga on Windows is? I
> > understand that the latest version 3.2.6 has issues with Windows and is no
> > longer down-loadable from the Ekiga site.
> >
> > Are these issues being worked? Is there another (older?) version which works
> > acceptably under Windows?
> 
> Sorry to reply so late.
> 
> I am working slowly to get it working.  For now, it compiles, it 
> installs and exits cleanly, cf. 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Building_Ekiga_for_Windows.  I need to 
> make tests for communications.
> 
> The only major issue which made that it is no longer downloadable is non 
> reproducible on my machine, so I cannot fix it.
> 

Someone tested also the issue for uninstall on IRC and was not able to
reproduce. IMHO it is either a rare case, either something completly
unrelated to Ekiga.

BTW, will you patch with STUN support for RTP? (the "NAT patch")

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Fedora 12 testing packages for NAT traversal support

[yannick]

Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 13:17 -0400, Bob Goodwin a écrit :
> On 26/04/10 08:07, yannick wrote:
> > Le samedi 24 avril 2010 à 17:18 -0400, Bob Goodwin a écrit :
> >
> >>
> >>  Good I will try it, probably tomorrow. Thanks for the explanation.
> >>
> >>  Bob
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> > I updated the page with an explanation and our default design:
> > http://ekiga.net/yannick/f12/
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Yannick
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> I ran the rpm, ekiga runs as before. I'm not sure what difference I
> might see but certainly no damage appears to have been done.
> 
> [b...@box6 ~]$ uname -a
> Linux box6 2.6.32.11-99.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Apr 5 19:59:38
> UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> 
> I still here my echo test audio coming back chopped into half second
> chunks, the initial announcement is perfectly clear, just my audio
> has a problem sending voice through ekiga.
> 
> Echo test on Qtel [The Linux voip program for amateur radio] works
> normally.
> 
> Bob
> -- 

The fix is for call failure or calls working just one way. Audio issue
is more probably bad interaction between Ekiga and Pulse Audio.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Fedora 12 testing packages for NAT traversal support

[yannick]

Le samedi 24 avril 2010 à 17:18 -0400, Bob Goodwin a écrit :
> On 24/04/10 16:41, yannick wrote:
> > Le samedi 24 avril 2010 à 16:07 -0400, Bob Goodwin a écrit :
> >
> >> On 24/04/10 15:57, David Ford wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Thanks Yannick and Chipper
> >>> I will do a fresh install of FC 12 and give it a try
> >>> Thanks again
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>> On 24/04/10 11:21, yannick wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Chipper did binary packages for Fedora 12 including the NAT traversal
> >>>> patch (add STUN support for the audio and video streams).
> >>>>
> >>>> Please test them and report here:
> >>>> http://ekiga.net/yannick/f12/
> >>>>
> >>>> (You just need to install opal-3.6.6-1.1.fc12.i686.rpm if your using the
> >>>> 32 bits version of Fedora, or opal-3.6.6-1.1.fc12.x86_64.rpm if you're
> >>>> using the 64 bits version)
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks to Chipper.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Yannick
> >>>>
> >>>> ___
> >>>>  
> >>>
> >>  What is "opal?" Is it a replacement for Ekiga? Can I install it on
> >>  my F-12 box here? Must I remove Ekiga first?
> >>
> >>  Bob
> >>  
> > OPAL is an Ekiga dependency.
> >
> > Among other libraries, Ekiga use mainly PTLIB and OPAL.
> > PTLIB basically offer the hardware management part, while OPAL basically
> > offers protocols (like H323, SIP) and codecs (like speex, H261,...).
> > The website for PTLIB and OPAL is here: http://www.opalvoip.org/
> >
> > Ekiga is build on them. You already have OPAL installed. The version I
> > propose is the same as the one you have already + a small patch for
> > better NAT traversal support of the audio and video streams.
> >
> > You just have to install as I told in the first message, it should just
> > replace the existing OPAL. Then use Ekiga as usual. (There is no need to
> > change the Ekiga package, the patch is small and it is binary
> > compatible)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Yannick
> >
> 
> Good I will try it, probably tomorrow. Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 

I updated the page with an explanation and our default design:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/f12/

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Fedora 12 testing packages for NAT traversal support

[yannick]

Le samedi 24 avril 2010 à 16:07 -0400, Bob Goodwin a écrit :
> On 24/04/10 15:57, David Ford wrote:
> > Thanks Yannick and Chipper
> > I will do a fresh install of FC 12 and give it a try
> > Thanks again
> > David
> >
> > On 24/04/10 11:21, yannick wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Chipper did binary packages for Fedora 12 including the NAT traversal
> >> patch (add STUN support for the audio and video streams).
> >>
> >> Please test them and report here:
> >> http://ekiga.net/yannick/f12/
> >>
> >> (You just need to install opal-3.6.6-1.1.fc12.i686.rpm if your using the
> >> 32 bits version of Fedora, or opal-3.6.6-1.1.fc12.x86_64.rpm if you're
> >> using the 64 bits version)
> >>
> >> Many thanks to Chipper.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Yannick
> >>
> >> ___
> >
> 
> What is "opal?" Is it a replacement for Ekiga? Can I install it on
> my F-12 box here? Must I remove Ekiga first?
> 
> Bob

OPAL is an Ekiga dependency.

Among other libraries, Ekiga use mainly PTLIB and OPAL.
PTLIB basically offer the hardware management part, while OPAL basically
offers protocols (like H323, SIP) and codecs (like speex, H261,...).
The website for PTLIB and OPAL is here: http://www.opalvoip.org/

Ekiga is build on them. You already have OPAL installed. The version I
propose is the same as the one you have already + a small patch for
better NAT traversal support of the audio and video streams.

You just have to install as I told in the first message, it should just
replace the existing OPAL. Then use Ekiga as usual. (There is no need to
change the Ekiga package, the patch is small and it is binary
compatible)

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[Ekiga-list] Fedora 12 testing packages for NAT traversal support

[yannick]

Hi,

Chipper did binary packages for Fedora 12 including the NAT traversal
patch (add STUN support for the audio and video streams).

Please test them and report here:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/f12/

(You just need to install opal-3.6.6-1.1.fc12.i686.rpm if your using the
32 bits version of Fedora, or opal-3.6.6-1.1.fc12.x86_64.rpm if you're
using the 64 bits version)

Many thanks to Chipper.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga w/VoipDiscount.com -

[yannick]

Le mercredi 21 avril 2010 à 19:35 -0400, Bob Goodwin a écrit :
> On 21/04/10 17:58, David Ford wrote:
> > Hi Bob - I just added myself to the audio and video groups - and Now I 
> > can Register!!
> >
> > The echo test still doesn't work though.
> >
> > I think the voice group must be an Ubuntu thing I'm not sure which of 
> > the two made the difference as I don't want to mess with it now it's 
> > half working!
> > David
> 
> Ok, I added myself to the audio group and that made a difference. It
> rung through to my cell phone but immediately switched to the voice
> mail function. However the announcement came through loud and very
> clear! Progress!
> 
> I was looking for a "voice" group earlier and there was none.
> There's probably a "video" group too but I don't have a working web
> cam connected and can't afford to waste bandwidth streaming video. I
> only get 17 gigs down, 5 gigs up, per 30 day period on this
> satellite isp, and I have other users on my LAN. I am running at 45%
> usage now. We live in a rural area and there's no cable or DSL
> available.

Hi,

I did a test using a fresh installation of Ubuntu 9.10 (with virtualbox)
and my own packages ( https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa ).

The results are:
I can register to ekiga.NET and place a call to 5...@ekiga.net with audio
and video.
The user is *not* part of any groups like audio/video/voice. Thus, AFAIK
this issue is not relevent using a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 installation.

Still, in my own setup (ubuntu 9.10, but upgraded from version to
version since a long time now) my user is part of the groups audio and
video. I do not remember if I did this and why...

Thus, maybe this issue is maybe the result of an old behavior in Ubuntu
(and maybe Debian).

Could you please tell us what are the distros you are using and when you
installed it (using which version)?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL

[yannick]

Le mardi 20 avril 2010 à 00:52 +0100, Chris Vine a écrit :
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:57:36 +0200
> Eugen Dedu  wrote:
> > Chris Vine wrote:
> > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:05:00 +0200
> > > yannick  wrote:
> > >>> At the moment I cannot connect to anyone via ekiga, including the
> > >>> echo test.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is probably nothing to do with the opal patch: I have noticed
> > >>> before that sometimes ekiga works and sometimes it doesn't.
> > >>> Possibly the asterisk server is down, or something like that.
> > >>>
> > >> I just tested and it works atm.
> > > 
> > > OK I have just tested again and ekiga registers but when I call
> > > sip:5...@ekiga.net (or any other number) it says "Could not connect
> > > to remote host".
> > > 
> > > So perhaps the opal patch has broken something.
> > 
> > Could you send the -d 4 output?
> 
> The ekiga.net echo test has decided to work for me again and I can now
> make test calls again.
> 
> I am afraid that the opal patch does not help with the bug at
> http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/203885
> 

Probably.

Without de -d 4 outpout it is hard to tell where is the culprit.
Please use a paste service like this one and post and -d 4:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Sucess between two ekiga clients.

[yannick]

Le samedi 17 avril 2010 à 23:51 +0400, Игорь Мартынов a écrit :
> мне очень приятно читать ваши письма, и я люблю француский, но к 
> сожелению давно на нем не разговаривал, конечно Ekiga приятный ip 
> телефон, но в россии более распространен Skyp  а с друзьями я общаюсь
> по 
> Linhone, хранилище  у меня добавлено, стоит последняя для karmic но
> сайт 
> не имеет моего родного языка с выходом lucid возможно что то изменю в 
> своем мнении, и с удовольствием пообщаюсь, с Вами вспомня свой
> французский

Please, use english.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Sucess between two ekiga clients.

[yannick]

Le samedi 17 avril 2010 à 17:07 +0200, yannick a écrit :
> > which gives a jaunty version. On the jaunty side , Nat fails as the
> > video and audio are not sent. So I came back to the jaunty-updates
> > version but with the same problem (3.2.0 ) , I guess I should
> upgrade
> > the jaunty box to karmic and lucid ..
> > 
> 
> I will build a Jaunty version this week-end with the nat patch here:
> https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa 

Jaunty patched version is built, as well as a Lucid version.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Sucess between two ekiga clients.

[yannick]

Le samedi 17 avril 2010 à 16:42 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit :
> 2010/4/13 yannick :
> > Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 13:46 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit :
> > Use this command "aptitude show libopal3.6.6" to perform a check against
> > the version; it must have "~nat" in its name to be sure it is the
> > patched version.
> >
> > e.g. on my system:
> >
> > $ aptitude show libopal3.6.6
> > Paquet : libopal3.6.6
> > Nouveau: oui
> > État: installé
> > Automatiquement installé: oui
> > Version : 3.6.6~ppa~karmic2~nat
> > ../..
> 
> 
> Actually I wasn't using the right ppa , I was using the ppa released :
> 
> https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ekiga-released
> 
> which gives a jaunty version. On the jaunty side , Nat fails as the
> video and audio are not sent. So I came back to the jaunty-updates
> version but with the same problem (3.2.0 ) , I guess I should upgrade
> the jaunty box to karmic and lucid ..
> 

I will build a Jaunty version this week-end with the nat patch here:
https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa

> 
> I saw your ppa https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ekiga-stable-prerelease
> with builds od the lastest stable Trunk . do you think I should give
> it a try ? I guess it does not include the magic nat patch then ?
> 

No it does not. I use it before a release for testing purpose. It has
not been updated since long now; it is almost the same as 3.2.6.

> 
> 
> No offense but with the upnp issue implemented , we wouldn't have any
> nat issue as most domestic routers have Upnp activated by default now
> 

Well, we do adverstise coders of good will about it, but nothing has
come yet:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Love#Developers_corner

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Sound sometimes disabled

[yannick]

Le mercredi 14 avril 2010 à 10:40 +1000, Murray Collingwood a écrit :
> Hi all
> 
> I'm getting quite frustrated with this app.  
> 
> I try calling e...@iptel.org on three separate calls.
> The first two calls can work perfectly - the third call there will be
> a sound problem.
> 
> Either:
> a) The volume icon on the call screen will be disabled as though all
> sound is disabled
> or
> b) The icon will be active but the playback volume control will be at
> 0 and disabled
> 
> These three calls are all placed one after the other, nothing is
> changed between the calls.
> A fourth call will most likely work again.
> 
> While 2 out of 3 maybe okay for Meatloaf it's not good enough for me.
> 
> I have hunted through various list emails and it would seem there has
> always been trouble with Ekiga and sound on Linux.
> I tried disabling all of the sound controls and just configuring Ekiga
> but that didn't help either.  
> I tried various options with Ekiga and the Linux sound preferences,
> still no change.
> I even ran Ekiga in a debug mode to look at the logs, and while there
> is a heap of messages generated I can't really tell what I'm looking
> at.
> 
> You can view the log at http://focus-computing.com.au/ekiga.log
> 
> Does anybody have a solution for this?

I'm not 100% sure, but my guess is:

Upgrade to Ekiga 3.2.6 should fix this.

Why?
In the log you provided, the issue seems (after a quick look):
2010/04/14 10:07:21.826   0:24.369   Media Patch:0xb4f16b90
GMAudioInputManager_ptlib   Closing device Logitech USB Headset
(PTLIB/ALSA)
2010/04/14 10:07:21.826   0:24.369   Media Patch:0xb4f16b90 AudioInputCore  
Falling back to SILENT (Ekiga/Ekiga)
2010/04/14 10:07:21.826   0:24.369   Media Patch:0xb4f16b90 
GMAudioInputManager_nullSetting Device SILENT (Ekiga/Ekiga)
2010/04/14 10:07:21.826   0:24.369   Media Patch:0xb4f16b90 AudioInputCore  
Opening device with 1-8000/16
2010/04/14 10:07:21.826   0:24.369   Media Patch:0xb4f16b90 
GMAudioInputManager_nullOpening Device SILENT (Ekiga/Ekiga)

The sound device is set to "SILENT", which just means... what it means!

In Ekiga 3.2.6 there is this fix:
"Make sure the output device is set before a call"
http://ekiga.org/news/2009-09-22/ekiga-3.2.6-available

Please refer to this page for downloads:
http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Sucess between two ekiga clients.

[yannick]

Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 13:46 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit :
> 2010/4/11 yannick :
> > At the moment we are testing a patch which should improve connectivity
> > when Ekiga is behind a NAT (technicaly it fix STUN support to the RTP
> > streams -i.e. the audio and video streams-)
> >
> > You can find it for Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic here:
> > https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa
> > (it is Ekiga 3.2.6+the patch)
> 
> As I said , I already use Your PPA for karmic & jaunty . The weird
> thing is that it had yesterday build for jaunty. I understand that I
> might have installed on the jaunty Box the unpatched builds and thus
> this might give problems.

Use this command "aptitude show libopal3.6.6" to perform a check against
the version; it must have "~nat" in its name to be sure it is the
patched version.

e.g. on my system:

$ aptitude show libopal3.6.6
Paquet : libopal3.6.6
Nouveau: oui
État: installé
Automatiquement installé: oui
Version : 3.6.6~ppa~karmic2~nat
../..

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Sucess between two ekiga clients.

[yannick]

Le samedi 10 avril 2010 à 18:05 +0200, michel memeteau a écrit :
> Hello just to give my experience.
> 
> I has several call between two natted Ubuntu Box in france  :
> Livebox/jaunty/ekiga3.2.0   - neufBox/karmic/ekiga 3.2.6
> 
> So far call sucess with both audio & video was close to 90% which is very 
> good.
> 
> My main problem is that even if the neufbox is 4096/900kbits  , the
> livebox is 1024/256kbits , so the upstream on the livebox is really
> painful . SO far I put 160 Kbits ( was wriiten Ko/s in 3.2.0 but
> corrected in 3.2.6 ) and 500 on my side .
> 
> on both sides we don't have the patented plugins installed, because
> I'm not sure it's still possible on both distro .So using speex/theora
> with 320*240 on both side gives really average results but it's still
> okay. I tried once to install theora 1.1 but it just make opal fail.
> did anyone succeed ?
> 
> Sound with speex is amazing , taking less than 3 Ko/s
> 
> I updated the jaunty box to 3.2.6 ppA ( thx yannick )and will test it tonight
> 
> So  :
> 
> - Congrats & thanks  to all that take on their time to make Ekiga
> improve all the time (empathy for example failed on working with our
> gmail accounts)
> 
> - Do you have any advices on this setup?

Hi,

It is always good for us to know our software gives good results. Thank
you for the feedback.

At the moment we are testing a patch which should improve connectivity
when Ekiga is behind a NAT (technicaly it fix STUN support to the RTP
streams -i.e. the audio and video streams-)

You can find it for Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic here:
https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa
(it is Ekiga 3.2.6+the patch)

I will most probably build it for Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 and the incoming
Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 in 1 week or 2.

Reports about this patch are positives for now. It is includuded in the
dev branch of OPAL, and if the testing continue to give good results it
will most likely be included in the next Ekiga release.

The patch itself is small, apply only to OPAL and is binary compatible
with Ekiga 3.2.6, which means you can patch OPAL yourself if you have
Ekiga 3.2.6 already and it should work with just patching/rebuilding
OPAL.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL

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Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 10:48 +0100, Chris Vine a écrit :
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:15:05 +
> Chris Vine  wrote:
> [snip]
> > > > I am not using karmic.  Can you please post the patch here and I
> > > > will recompile libopal.
> > > 
> > > Attached.
> > 
> > Thanks.  It applies to opal-3.6.6 and compiles OK.  It will probably
> > be sometime next week before I am able to test it with a remote
> > participant.
> 
> At the moment I cannot connect to anyone via ekiga, including the echo
> test.
> 
> This is probably nothing to do with the opal patch: I have noticed
> before that sometimes ekiga works and sometimes it doesn't. Possibly the
> asterisk server is down, or something like that.
> 

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 3.2.6 in 9.10 Karmic

[yannick]

Le lundi 29 mars 2010 à 10:55 -0500, Ian Murdoch a écrit :
> Hi Yannick,
> 
> I started with Ekiga 3.2.5 in 9.10 Karmic and then updated from your
> ppa to 3.2.6, which proved to be unusable because of defects reported
> in the list by others: voice cut-off immediately after connection -
> freezing after disconnection - etc. Now I have updated to your latest
> patched version and Ekiga is alive again and working well in all
> departments! So this is just a note to thank you for your excellent
> and dedicated work in maintaining Ekiga and for your most generous
> spirit in making your voluntary contributions available to all. Thanks
> indeed.
> 
> My best wishes to you and all the team.

Hi,

That's very nice of you :) Speaking about credits, Damien Sandras did a
lot to 3.2.6, and Julien Puydt too (Snark), and Eugen Dedu. Lots of the
work also happen in the OPAL/PTLIB library. Specifically, the last patch
was contributed by one of the main contributor to OPAL trunk (Robert)
all based on a report issued by an Ubuntu user on launchpad; whitout his
valuable report and his pugnacity the patch would not be here (see:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/517580 ). Eugen
managed to get it into OPAL for Ubuntu. I just used the patch into my
previous package of 3.2.6 which is not really high tech if you compare
to other people mentionned (mostly copy'n paste). Personnaly I would
congrats the whole team for your good experience. IMHO this is just
another exemple of community based developement.

We are now testing this patch at a moderate scale, before going to the
large scale if everything goes well.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] pc-to-phone problem

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Le dimanche 28 mars 2010 à 12:00 +0200, François Patte a écrit :
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Le 27/03/2010 16:01, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> > François Patte wrote:
> >> Bonjour,
> >>
> >> I am new to Ekiga and I just opened an account at diamondcard.us to be
> >> able to call "normal" phones.
> >>
> >>
> >> For the ekiga account panel, it is OK: I have a line:
> >>
> >> Ekiga Call Out with state "registered" and it enabled (line is ticked).
> >>
> >>
> >> I tried to call my phone and this does not work: I called:
> >>
> >> sip:00331x...@sip.diamondcard.us
> >>
> >> and the messsage "call terminated" is immediately given in Egiga window!
> >>
> >> I tried without 00 prefix: same result.
> >>
> >>
> >> I tried to change address sip.diamondcard.us into:
> >> eugw.ast.diamondcard.us (I found this address on the web) and I get:
> >> authentication failed...
> > 
> > Well, I think the only solution to find out what happens is that you
> > send us the -d 4 output, see
> > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_get_a_debug_output
> > 
> 
> OK. I tried this before but was unable to read the log Finaly, I
> used the script to decrypt the output and saw that pc-to-phone "speaks"
> udp packets To use Ekiga, I set up iptables for tcp only! Clearly it
> seems that I have to do the same job for udp!
> 
> Is there a place where to find help? (I can do it, but advices are
> wellcome, I am not an expert).
> 

Here.

Yup, Ekiga uses UDP only. Then range 5060 to 5065 is IMHO enough for
direct access, or more generally 5000 to 5100 (UDP only)

> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL

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Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 à 22:42 +0100, kapetr a écrit :
> -- Eugen Dedu wrote:
> > 
> > Right now 500 works.
> > 
> > Could you send us the -d 4 output?  (By the way, the
> > pcap was empty.)
> > 
> > Try also with the original version to see if echo works.
> > Thus you can
> > compare both versions.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Eugen
> > 
> 
> 
> Hello Eugen,
> 
> First I have test again Ekiga 3.2.5 with Yours patched libopal - with
> the same result - no replays to INVITE - just packet fragments.
> But with direct Internet connection (ADSL modem in bridge mode (== no
> NAT)) it works.
> 
> Then back to NAT, then
> 
> uninstall patched libopal (and Ekiga) and then new install of Ekiga 3.2.5
> with original (from distro) libopal.
> 
> The result is the same - packet fragments, no calls possible.
> 
> BTW: in the past with Ekiga 3.2.6 there ware not this fragment problem,
> just the "SDP port" problem.
> 
> In attachments are "patched/nopatched" logs and libcaps. I hope it will
> help.
> 
> FYI: the last empty libcap was evoked by Firefox, which don't warn when
> he can't read file (due permissions) and "uploads" into my webmail empty
> file ?! :-/
> 
> Maybe would help to add patched libopal to
> 
> https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ekiga-released
> 
> to test the newest Ekiga 3.2.6 with this patch ?
> 
> 

You can test ekiga 3.2.6 for karmic with the patch here:
https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive/ppa

I do no used "ekiga-released" as I consider it as official and I do not
want to confuse users of it with some testing.

> --kapetr
> 
> P.S: the 4. attachment is in next message.
> 
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Client compatibility with ekiga.net

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Le jeudi 18 mars 2010 à 11:28 +0100, Mounir Lamouri a écrit :
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Eugen Dedu
>  wrote:
> > Well, to my knowledge, windows version should work.  What do you mean by
> > "does not work" and "buggy"?  I need to find time to work on windows
> > version...
> 
> If I recall correctly, I was calling (from GNU/Linux) a Windows
> client. When the Windows client click to answer, nothing happened.
> Also, the contact list was always empty even after adding a contact
> which was online.
> Unfortunately, I do not own a Windows OS so I can't reproduce this bug.


I had chats lasting hours using the GNU/Linux version with the windows
version at the other end. It is not that broken. If I remember correctly
there was such issue sometimes, but if the other end give a try it
works. It was with 3.2.5 on the windows side...

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Re: [Ekiga-list] NAT issues with VoIP clients

[yannick]

Le jeudi 18 mars 2010 à 18:17 +0100, yannick a écrit :
> Le jeudi 18 mars 2010 à 18:10 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> > My Name wrote:
> > >> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:00:06 +0100
> > >> From: Eugen Dedu 
> > >> Message-ID: <4ba0fc86.1070...@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>
> > >>
> > >> Given the recent posts (and others), I have just written a page
> > >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29
> > >> explaining the problems of VoIP clients with NATs.  I am not 100% sure
> > >> of what I wrote, and it remain open questions.  Please help to improve
> > >> it by making remarks/improving it.
> > > 
> > > The Ekiga wiki is broken.  It runs me in circles when I try to register, 
> > > so I can't add to the discussion.  (Don't bother to fix it for me.  I 
> > > don't really want to start contributing to the wiki anyway.)  But since I 
> > > can't add a comment, I'll post it here.
> > 
> > The new registration is forbidden on the wiki.  yannick, could you add a
> > text such as "For new registrations, please contact XYZ" on the
> > registration page?  I can help you for the line to add (something like
> > an "echo 'The new reg... '").
> > 
> 
> I'll try. For now it is wriiten here since long:
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/How_to_edit_the_wiki
> (last link ont he main page)

I can't find a way to edit the login page :/ (well for now, when we will
change the mechanics for drupal, it should be possible)

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Re: [Ekiga-list] NAT issues with VoIP clients

[yannick]

Le jeudi 18 mars 2010 à 18:10 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> My Name wrote:
> >> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:00:06 +0100
> >> From: Eugen Dedu 
> >> Message-ID: <4ba0fc86.1070...@pu-pm.univ-fcomte.fr>
> >>
> >> Given the recent posts (and others), I have just written a page
> >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29
> >> explaining the problems of VoIP clients with NATs.  I am not 100% sure
> >> of what I wrote, and it remain open questions.  Please help to improve
> >> it by making remarks/improving it.
> > 
> > The Ekiga wiki is broken.  It runs me in circles when I try to register, so 
> > I can't add to the discussion.  (Don't bother to fix it for me.  I don't 
> > really want to start contributing to the wiki anyway.)  But since I can't 
> > add a comment, I'll post it here.
> 
> The new registration is forbidden on the wiki.  yannick, could you add a
> text such as "For new registrations, please contact XYZ" on the
> registration page?  I can help you for the line to add (something like
> an "echo 'The new reg... '").
> 

I'll try. For now it is wriiten here since long:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/How_to_edit_the_wiki
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Re: [Ekiga-list] NAT issues with VoIP clients

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> > On 17/03/10 16:00, Eugen Dedu wrote:
> >> Given the recent posts (and others), I have just written a page
> >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29
> >>
> >> explaining the problems of VoIP clients with NATs.  I am not 100% sure
> >> of what I wrote, and it remain open questions.  Please help to improve
> >> it by making remarks/improving it.
> 

I added some infos about ports. It still need more work on this...

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL

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Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 12:31 +0100, kapetr a écrit :
> Hello, 
> 
> this post is for all, which are interesting about NAT problems with Ekiga,
> 

Hi,

Upstream has been notified (the OPAL project), I'm waiting their answer
as I've not much time. Still I highly appreciate your effort to work
this out :)

Best regards,
Yannick

> especially for: 
>  Yannick Defais  
>  Eugen Dedu
>  Damien Sandras
> 
> I was go into Deep ...
> 
> As suggested by Yannick, this problem with NAT (even if not symmetric)
> and Ekiga could be a problem with NAT implementation on my DSL router.
> 
> It is ZyXEL P-660HW-T3 v2 
> 
> So ... I have also other modems:
> - ZyXEL P660RU-T3 and
> - HUAWEI EchoLife HG520i
> 
> I have try them all - with the same result!
> 
> RTP goes out, but not in - by calling sip:5...@ekiga.net
> 
> Problem of this "blackbox" routers is, that theirs logs are unusable.
> 
> So I did that:
> 
> - I have installed 2. PC with Ubuntu 10.04
> - -"- connect to it the modem in BRIDGE mode, so this host gets public
> IP address via PPPoE
> - -"- setup on it DHCPd and routing/forwarding with NAT
> 
> [iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.10.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE]
> 
> 
> And then, on 1. PC I have run Ekiga (no proxy, 1 (Ekiga) account, network
> detection enabled)
> 
> --->>> call to sip:5...@ekiga.net
> 
> AND  I can hear my echo :-)
> 
> So - I have run on 2. PC (NAT-router) wireshark and I see, that linux
> NAT maps port to the same (i=5060 to e=5060, i=5072 to e=5072, and so
> on).
> 
> ***
> In such case, I'm not surprised, that it works :-|
> ***
> 
> In such case is not problem, that Ekiga in INVITE packet (SDP) sends
> his iPort, then if NAT maps it to the same, then the other side sends
> his RTP audio output to (eAddr/iPort) and it goes through.
> 
> So I have changed the linux NAT  behaviour with replacing masquerade
> rule with:
> 
> [iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.10.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
> --random]
> 
> So now are the ports of ekiga NOT mapped to the same numbers (e.g. 5062
> to 5062).
> 
> Now is wireshark output at 2. PC (NAT) much more interesting.
> 
> - Ekiga make STUN request for his local RTP port and gets from STUN server
> mapping:
> e.g. 192.168.10.2/5062 to 88.83.179.98/55906, but as I wrote may times,
> Ekiga sends to the other site 88.83.179.98/5062 as the port to which
> the other side have to sends his audio.
> 
> Of course it fails, then in NAT table on 2. PC is no mapping for 
> 88.83.179.98/5062
> coming in. This packets are dropped by 2. PC.
> 
> Maybe acts iptables NAT with "--random" as symetric NAT (so it would
> not work even if Ekiga would not be buggy), but this is absolutely not
> the Point. The point is, that Ekiga send to the other side bad RTP contact.
> 
> Now I have evidence of that.
> 
> The "hole punching" can't help.
> My Ekiga sends punch packets to 96.64.162.35/16584 (RTP contact of other
> side get from replay to INVITE), but the other side sends his "punch
> packets" and then audio to wrong 88.83.179.98/5062 instead of proper
> 88.83.179.98/55906 (which would be remapped by NAT to proper 
> 192.168.10.2/5062).
> 
> Uff ...
> 
> *
> conclusion:
> *
> 
> Ekiga can work only behind such (port) restricted NAT, which maps posts
> to the same.
> But that behaviour, expecting such things, is faulty.
> 
> So it is not random/exception that Ekiga do not work for me, it is rather
> random/exception that Ekiga works for others.
> 
> Even if I am in minority :-)
> 
> - Damien Sandras wrote:
> > I'm sorry to contradict you, but it does work :-)
> 
> Sorry, Damien, it does not :-) 
> 
> ***
> 
> With this behaviour of Ekiga could probably not call out 2 people (PCs)
> behind the same NAT. Or maybe Yes, but only with Luck.
> 
> If both Ekigas would chose the same RTP port (e.g. 5075) for making call,
> then NAT could not map them to the same (5075) for both.
> 
> If e.g. 192.168.10.2/5075 would by "NATed"  to 88.83.179.98/5075, then
> 192.168.10.3/5075 could not be mapped to 88.83.179.98/5075 too.
> 
> So if 192.168.10.3/5075 would be mapped e.g. to 88.83.179.98/4321, then
> 192.168.10.3 would not get audio back.
> And maybe ?!?! this audio would get 192.168.10.2 !!!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all,
> 
> 
> I'm looking forward to Yours responses
> 
> --kapetr
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga do not work behind NAT -- Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL

[yannick]

Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 19:21 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 18:39 +0100, kapetr a écrit : 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > as asked by "Yannick Defais" ,
> > I have add twinkle log and wireshark output to
> > 
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/517580
> > 
> > to comparison to Ekigas STUN problem.
> > 
> > it affect also chain "Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL"
> 
> Can you post to the bug report an ekiga -d 4 output and a new libpcap
> trace ?
> 

Damien, on my request, kapetr first upgraded to Ekiga last stable and
provided both a d 4 and a wireshark log. Please read the report...

Here they are:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38855655/ekiga.log.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38855685/ekiga.wireshark.log

Same for twinkle:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39822198/twinkle.test.log
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39822161/twinkle.libcap.gz

/me hands a cup of coffee to Damien ;)

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> case. 
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Ubuntu using DSL

[yannick]

Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 10:32 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 09:01 +0100, kapetr a écrit :
> 
> > I have spend many hours in studying wireshark and twinkle logs, and I
> > 99,999% sure, I'm right: Ekiga can't work behind comon ((port)restricted)
> > NAT.
> > 
> I'm sorry to contradict you, but it does work :-)

This is not really helpfull Damien. The user claims Ekiga fails to call
500 where twinkle works, we need to understand how, at least, don't you
think?

kapetr, I'm sorry but in short I agree with Damien: it does work. But
not for all "common ((port)restricted) NAT". e.g. It works for Eugen
behind a "port restricted NAT", but not work for you.

There is no such beast as a "common ((port)restricted) NAT"; the classic
NAT classification failed, and the STUN mechanism, understood as "a
complete solution to the NAT traversal problem", is now deprecated.
Further information about this here:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5389#section-2

Fact is, NAT routers designers failed to get a common agreement about
NAT traversal (if they ever intented to get to such goal). NAT routers
is just a jungle; they just do as it pleases them and enough of them do
not pay attention to a universal NAT traversal solution.

How does ekiga work in case of "port restricted NAT"?

As you noticed, the signaling part of the protocol (SIP) use some new
ports it gets from the STUN server. Thus you can register to ekiga.net
and try to place a call.

Your issue is with the audio and video streams; once the call is placed
you do not get audio or video back as your router just refuse inbound
connection using "classic" ports, i.e. in the range 5060-5100.

In your case, Ekiga use a technique often referred as "hole punching".
e.g. see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP_hole_punching
In your bug report here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/517580
in the wireshark log, events number 57 to 60 are "hole punching" (ekiga
tries to use 4 ports for audio+video streams, 1 for audio, 1 for video
and 2 more additional for statistics about those streams like packet
order, packet late etc.)

In the view of the classical classification of NATs, this technique
should work because "An external host (hAddr:hPort) can send packets to
iAddr:iPort [i means internal or local] by sending packets to
eAddr:ePort [e means external or remote] only if iAddr:iPort had
previously sent a packet to hAddr:hPort." as you can read here for
"Port-Restricted cone NAT":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation#Types_of_NAT

But we can take for granted that in your case, there is some additional
rules in your NAT router that forbid using some ports, like the ones
ekiga tries to use for audio and video streams, even if it tries first
"hole punching". For some other people, like Eugen, "hole punching" does
work.

As I told before, the classical NAT classification is just wrong when
applied universally.

I hope this will help you understand why such assumption like "NOBODY
behind NAT can use Ekiga", as you wrote in your bug report for Ubuntu,
is just wrong. It does work for most people behind a NAT if you agree
the classical NAT classification, not being universally right, is also
not completely wrong and most probably right in most cases, as lots of
valuable people defined it, and as some Ekiga users behind NATs can rely
on it.

Make no mistake, the new way of dealing with NAT: ICE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Connectivity_Establishment is
just another more complex workaround for this bad situation and
ultimately recommend using a proxy to establish end-to-end
communication.

Finally, as I asked on the bug report, could you provide a wireshark log
in the report using twinkle to see how it deals in your case?

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] destructive Ekiga Win-XP un-install

[yannick]

Le samedi 13 février 2010 à 10:09 -0800, Stan a écrit :
> It did it right in front of my eyes.

This is not a proof. What you saw is your computer deleting your files,
not ekiga. e.g. some viruses add themselves to various binaries and do
actions when this binary is used.

The windows binary is cross compiled from a GNU/Linux platform; this
process is quit safe against viruses. Some days ago, people did a check
against the binary for viruses and they did not find anything. The
website ekiga.org is pointing to the right binary as Eugen stated.

I'll try to reproduce your issue, but be aware again: it is not because
you are using some software when something bad happen that it is a proof
this particular software behave badly.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Automatic Network Detection is broken atm (STUN server is down)

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The default STUN server is UP again.

Le samedi 06 février 2010 à 18:20 +0100, yannick a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> One of our service is down atm: the STUN server.
> 
> If you have a new warning about port forwarding, here is a quick fix:
> $ gconftool-2 -s /apps/ekiga/general/nat/stun_server stun.ideasip.com
> --type=string
> 
> (in 1 line)
> This will switch the STUN server to another one.
> Here is a list of public STUN servers:
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/STUN
> 
> To revert back to the default setting use this line:
> $ gconftool-2 -s /apps/ekiga/general/nat/stun_server stun.ekiga.net
> --type=string
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> Best regards,
> Yannick
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[Ekiga-list] Automatic Network Detection is broken atm (STUN server is down)

[yannick]

Hi,

One of our service is down atm: the STUN server.

If you have a new warning about port forwarding, here is a quick fix:
$ gconftool-2 -s /apps/ekiga/general/nat/stun_server stun.ideasip.com
--type=string

(in 1 line)
This will switch the STUN server to another one.
Here is a list of public STUN servers:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/STUN

To revert back to the default setting use this line:
$ gconftool-2 -s /apps/ekiga/general/nat/stun_server stun.ekiga.net
--type=string

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Windows link hacked

[yannick]

Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 14:10 -0500, Darren Albers a écrit :
> Why do you think it is a trojan?   The ekiga-setup scans as clean to
> my AV.Virustotal is down so I can't check it there but it looks
> clean.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:35 PM, davandg  wrote:
> > Hi !
> > The windows's link link to a trojan !
> > See :
> > http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code
> >
> > Please change this fast !
> >

It is the intended link:
http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/stable/ekiga-setup-3.2.6-release.exe

This place is own by the guy who released the windows version: Mickael
Rickman.

I understand this might be confusing as it is not in the ekiga.net
domain.

Damien, what you think? Should we copy it on ekiga.net ?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] how to Run Ekiga from Command line

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Le lundi 01 février 2010 à 17:40 -0800, anil v a écrit :
> Hi All,
> 
>   I want to Use Ekiga from command line  instead of using GTK/Gnome
> UI . Can any one please suggest me how can I strip down the GTK UI.


Hi,

This is not possible. Still a lot of efforts has been put in the code to
separate the GUI from the engine, AFAIK it will require more work on the
code to have a console version of Ekiga. In other words, the basis for
that feature are there.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Call-in from regular phones to Ekiga conferencing

[yannick]

Le jeudi 14 janvier 2010 à 18:03 +0200, Lars Nooden a écrit :
> I see that Ekiga can call out to regular phone numbers:
> 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Documentation#Ekiga_Call_Out_Account_.28PC_to_Phone.29
> 
> Can Ekiga be set to allow call-ins from regular phones to an SIP
> conference call?
> 
> Specifically, can a number be published for people to call to a local
> dial-in number and join an SIP conference call?
>  http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=29131
> 
> If so, how can it be done, how many callers can be accommodated, what
> are the rates, and any other important details.


Hi,

It seems you need a commercial service; we do not provide this kind of
service ourselves. Ekiga, based on the SIP standard, can use many
commercial SIP providers. A search engine is your friend.

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[Ekiga-list] Ekiga.org is now powered by Drupal.

[yannick]

In a continuous effort to improve our work flow and our communication
with you, the users of Ekiga, we decided sometimes ago to move our main
website, Ekiga.org, to a modern Content Management System.

This is a reality: Ekiga.org is now powered by Drupal.
http://drupal.org/

We choose Drupal as it focus on flexibility, security and is community
oriented. We hope to deliver more news and bring more features soon. As
of now, we improved the download section (especially for the windows
binary) and added a roadmap to the project. The design as been polished
too, while still being familiar. We hope you like it!

Future website work will focus on wiki integration and migration of
Ekiga.net to Drupal.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] sip account given by ekiga.net do not work !

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Le vendredi 15 janvier 2010 à 18:47 +0100, Jonathan MERCIER a écrit :
> dear sir i have a little problem with my ekiga.net account
> with this conf : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/img/1263575572.png
> ekiga d'ont want register my sip account
> i have check before the pasword with a recall
> if someone have an idea
> thanks
> 
> Note: with my sip account given by fedora (because i am a packager)
> ekiga work nice
> 

Hi,

We fixed this issue yesterday on IRC; it was a NAT issue and was solved
with port forwarding. The fedora server does accept private IP for
REGISTER.

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[Ekiga-list] New certificate for Ekiga.net

[yannick]

Hi,

Since a month, Ekiga.net had an invalid certificate. It now has a new
one for free for the coming year. A special thanks to TheBonsai and
Damien who helped me and to Michel Memeteau who get the first one.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga client startup sequence - all contacts sent to the server.

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Le samedi 09 janvier 2010 à 11:30 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :
> yannick a écrit :
> > Le vendredi 08 janvier 2010 à 18:21 -0500, Eugene Kanter a écrit :
> >> Eugen,
> >>
> >> Your explanation makes no sense whatsoever. It is the same as email
> >> client like evolution sending an entire contact list to an email
> >> server upon startup.
> > 
> > Your comparison is not right:
> > Your email client do not support the "presence" feature.
> > By definition, presence means you must inform your contacts about your
> > status.
> 
> There's something not clearly right in what you say.
> 
> We have to send the contacts to the server so we get *their* presences. 
> This is how SIP seems to work : you store the contacts, and you have to 
> tell the server you want to know about them (XCAP helps there).
> 

Indeed. Thus, it seems the first case in my previous post turns into:
-disable presence for the buddy list (the roster).

Thank you Snark for pointing this out.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga client startup sequence - all contacts sent to the server.

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Le vendredi 08 janvier 2010 à 18:21 -0500, Eugene Kanter a écrit :
> Eugen,
> 
> Your explanation makes no sense whatsoever. It is the same as email
> client like evolution sending an entire contact list to an email
> server upon startup.

Your comparison is not right:
Your email client do not support the "presence" feature.
By definition, presence means you must inform your contacts about your
status.

I see 3 possibilities about this regarding privacy:
- you turn off presence (e.g. setting it to "offline" in Ekiga, but this
is not available yet). It should be possible to add this feature for a
low coding cost... I consider implicit for the user to understand, if
"offline" is available in the client, other presence's possibilities are
not privacy safe.
- Adding more features for privacy:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-simple-simple-05#section-2.3
But this is not simple work to implement it and it involves hard work on
client, server and usability.
- You get rid off the central server and use a new protocol based on
peer-to-peer. There is no standard yet for this, but an effort is going
on this: http://www.p2psip.org/ This is even more work...

Best regards,
Yannick

> 
> Eugene.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Eugen Dedu
>  wrote:
> > Eugene Kanter wrote:
> >> Damien,
> >>
> >> I believe sending contacts out without informing the user is a severe
> >> privacy violation.
> >>
> >> Comments, anyone?
> >
> > Each contact you have is there because you use it sometimes.  And when
> > you use it, the server knows that and can potentially store it.  So
> > hiding the contacts does not reduce your privacy in fact.
> >
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Issues

[yannick]

Le mardi 05 janvier 2010 à 14:01 -0800, Bruce Ferrell a écrit :
> pulse isn't right anywhere and the only the the pulse devs says is
> it's
> the applications fault Which I would say OK to except it's ALL the
> applications. 

Well, I'm using Ubuntu since long now, and for *me*, 9.10 is the worst
experience ever with this distro. Please, do not take for granted Ubuntu
is getting worst, it is just my own experience...

I've 2 computers running it; 1 "netbook" which was unusable with it
("MSI wind": no USB support at all and a bad luminosity flickering all
time) and a desktop with garbage sound in all applications like you
(based on an Asus A8N-E motherboard). Both computers were working fine
with the previous Ubuntu.

In both cases I tried to:
1- find relevant bug in launchpad (the ubuntu bug tracking system) and
2- take the latest updates for critical components of the system
involved in the bug)

e.g. you could try this PPA which contains latest pulseaudio release:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa
It helped in my case, even if still not perfect.

You could also try to allow the "karmic-proposed" repository, it has an
updated kernel.

As a side note, the good news for Ubuntu users is the incoming release
(10.04 LTS) will be based on Debian (I mean they will stick close to it
this time); thus the overall quality will probably be better...

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Happy New Year

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Le vendredi 01 janvier 2010 à 00:49 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Happy New Year to everyone !
> 
> Let all your dreams come true...

Happy new year folks!

Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Video resolution

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Le mardi 22 décembre 2009 à 17:30 +0800, Bret Busby a écrit :
> Hello.
> 
> I am wondering what prospect exists, for the video resolution, and thus 
> the displayed video size on screen, to be increased?
> 
> I have recently purchased a Logitech C300 webcam, which apparently has 
> video resolution of up to 1.3MP; 1280 x 1024, I think.
> 
> The webcam came with access to a Logitech free videocall facility' 
> "Vid", which apparently (on this computer, anyway) allows for video 
> resolution of up to 640 x480, at 30fps.
> 
> So, I am wondering whether any intent exists, for Ekiga to provide for 
> image resolution of 640 x 480, or, better, also, 800 x 600, or, even 
> better, also, 1280 x 1024, at 30fps.
> 

The higher you can get with Ekiga 3.2.x is: 704x...@30fps

(This is 4CIF, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4CIF )

Best regards,
Yannick

> Thanks in anticipation.
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] A problem with ekiga.net?

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Le mardi 22 décembre 2009 à 21:00 +0200, Fred Dei-Cont a écrit :
> Problem 1: Since a few days I can't access www.ekiga.net. The Page
> Load 
> Error of Firefox (3.0.16) is:
> 
>   Secure Connection Failed
>   www.ekiga.net uses an invalid security certificate.
>   The certificate expired on 16/12/2009 22:08

Hi,

I've got a new certificate for free, we are in the process to setting it
up. Please be patient, this will hopefully be fixed in a few days
(depends on the availability of the people of the team managing
ekiga.net...)

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net certificate

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Le samedi 19 décembre 2009 à 16:59 +0100, pal...@inwind.it a écrit :
> www.ekiga.net certificate expired on 12/16/2009
> What should people do when connecting to the site?
> 

For now, just pass the warning. I'm trying to get my hand on a free
certificate...

Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Best regards,
Yannick

> Best regards,
> 
> Antonio
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga presence web buttons and WordPress

[Yannick]

Le vendredi 18 décembre 2009 à 21:32 +0100, Bjarne Juul Pasgaard a
écrit :
> Thanks,
> 

You're welcome.

> That was fast! Exactly what I was looking for!
> 
> When will this service go public?

Well, this service was there for months, I'll start working on a new web
interface for ekiga.net in the coming days, I'll include that as part of
it. Hopefully it will be public in a few weeks. But make no mistake, we
will release when it's ready... In the meantime you can use the below
URL, it is active since months and should work pretty well.

Best regards,
Yannick

> 
> Best regards,
> Bjarne
> 
> On Friday 18 December 2009 17:23:04 Yannick wrote:
> > Le vendredi 18 décembre 2009 à 14:58 +0100, Bjarne Juul Pasgaard a
> > écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm having problems with the instructions for adding an Ekiga presence 
> > > web 
> > > button (see 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_Button) 
> > > to my WordPress blog as WordPress doesn't allow that kind of javascript 
> > > in 
> a 
> > > Text Widget.
> > > 
> > > My idea was therefore that it would be easier to integrate an Ekiga 
> presence 
> > > web button on a web page if the PHP script on ekiga.net returned the 
> graphics 
> > > directly instead of a javascript. In that case, one would have to add 
> > > something the following to the web page that were to include the presence 
> > > button:
> > > 
> > >  > > src='http://www.ekiga.net/status/presence2.php?user=USERNAME' border='0' 
> > > alt='My status' />
> > > 
> > > Comments?
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Try this ALPHA service:
> > http://ekiga.net/yannick/helper.php
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Yannick
> > 
> > > 
> > > /Bjarne
> > > 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga presence web buttons and WordPress

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Le vendredi 18 décembre 2009 à 14:58 +0100, Bjarne Juul Pasgaard a
écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having problems with the instructions for adding an Ekiga presence web 
> button (see 
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_Interoperability#Web_Button) 
> to my WordPress blog as WordPress doesn't allow that kind of javascript in a 
> Text Widget.
> 
> My idea was therefore that it would be easier to integrate an Ekiga presence 
> web button on a web page if the PHP script on ekiga.net returned the graphics 
> directly instead of a javascript. In that case, one would have to add 
> something the following to the web page that were to include the presence 
> button:
> 
>  src='http://www.ekiga.net/status/presence2.php?user=USERNAME' border='0' 
> alt='My status' />
> 
> Comments?

Hi,

Try this ALPHA service:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/helper.php

Best regards,
Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Maybe was asked lot of time... what is the best platform for ekiga?

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Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 14:56 -0500, Stuart Lesnett a écrit :
> On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 12:22 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 11:14 +, Anres Moya a écrit : 
> > > Ok. I see now. The key is not not to use this (3) alpha version. Strange
> > > it advertised on website. What is the best way to install stable
> > > backport on ubuntu 9.10? Just few days with this system. 
> > > 
> > > linphone works with video. But it shows plain messages, so if other side
> > > uses formated type i am reading all XML messages including "user typing
> > > message" that is boring ;) My router changes headers so my kamailio deny
> > > its requests with content-length mismatch. Connecting via VPN as
> > > workaround ;) Hm, good idea to try Ekiga on VPN, 
> > 
> > Ekiga 3.2.6 is supposed to be stable. We ran thousands of calls with
> > it without problem.
> > 
> > However, external dependancies like pulseaudio or ALSA are sometimes
> > giving problems.
> > 
> > 
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> > v_/_   Be IP   : http://www.beip.be/
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> 
> It is nice to point the finger at someone else, but I'm afraid this is
> ekiga's  problem for 3.2.5 and 3.2.6.  I have sent dumps to Yannick
> after moving to Ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 with both releases containing NO
> sound and Windows followed suit. The last stable release of ekiga I've
> seen is 3.0.1
> 
> I even removed pulseaudio from 9.10 which did release SKYPE to select
> ALSA.
> 
> I have also told Yannick that Berkeleytips new Asterisk server works
> fine both audio and video which leads back to your SERVER.  
> 

Hi,

I'm quite busy atm. If it was reported on the Ubuntu BTS, I've put it on
hold for now. I'll get a look at it in 2 or 3 weeks probably. Sorry for
the delay, but I've few spare time atm. :(

Best regards,
Yannick

> I have been forced to return to SKYPE because it works.
> 
> Stu
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 2.0.12 on Debian Lenny, Good news

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Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 17:50 +0100, pal...@inwind.it a écrit :
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:03:01 -0800
> peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> 
> > Have you updated the system or changed it otherwise 
> > since the failure a day or two ago?
> 
> I did nothing to my system. It looks like 500 and 520 were not working 
> properly for some reason.
> 
> Best,
> 

Hi,

The service was down.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

I'll work on our ekiga.net website soon to provide accurate informations
about the service...

Best regards,
Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Is 520 audio only?

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Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 19:54 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 19:36 +0100, yannick a écrit : 
> > Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 13:31 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> > > >> For information, this bug is about 520 does not work with video.
> > > This
> > > >> is normal, 5...@ekiga.net is audio-only, cf.
> > > >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmm, that's not what this says:
> > > > https://www.ekiga.net/index.php?page=services
> > > > 
> > > > Although it may well be right that 5...@ekiga.net doesn't support
> > > > video, in which case the two pages need to be brought into line.
> > > 
> > > Indeeed, the "and video" should be removed.  Yannick, Damien?
> > > 
> > 
> > In my own test, 520 is audio only; Damien, can you confirm?
> > 
> 
> I do.

The inconsistency in documentation is my bad; I'll fix that ASAP
(hopefully this week-end).

Sorry for the inconvenience,
Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Is 520 audio only?

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Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 13:31 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> >> For information, this bug is about 520 does not work with video.
> This
> >> is normal, 5...@ekiga.net is audio-only, cf.
> >> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers
> >>
> > 
> > Hmmm, that's not what this says:
> > https://www.ekiga.net/index.php?page=services
> > 
> > Although it may well be right that 5...@ekiga.net doesn't support
> > video, in which case the two pages need to be brought into line.
> 
> Indeeed, the "and video" should be removed.  Yannick, Damien?
> 

In my own test, 520 is audio only; Damien, can you confirm?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] problem with ekiga karmic and audio

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Le mercredi 11 novembre 2009 à 19:39 -0500, Dinesh a écrit :
> I have installed ubuntu karmic 32-bit version.
> I configured ekiga as in my old 8.10 ubuntu but now, after the logon,
> when i try to make a test call i hear no audio form the  server and
> from my voice. The call has satus OK but nothig else happend. I have
> also installed skype (i have money in there) and it works completly. 
> 
> Anyone can help me please?
> 

Maybe an issue with Pulse Audio:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382234

> thank you 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga win32 cross compilation on ubuntu 9.04

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Le mercredi 11 novembre 2009 à 13:13 +0530, Sohil Shah a écrit :
>  Hi,
>  I removed the --debug-opal flag from ekiga configure
> make clean;make uninstall; make distclean; cd ../win32;make
>  and it solved my problem giving me the next set of errors
> .
> .
> .
> 
>  adding: Ekiga/plugins/g722_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 57%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/theora_video_pwplugin.dll (deflated 65%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/h264_video_pwplugin.dll (deflated 65%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/speex_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 64%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/gsmamrcodec_pwplugin.dll (deflated 42%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/h263-1998_video_pwplugin.dll (deflated 64%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/ilbc_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 42%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/ima_adpcm_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 61%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/gsm0610_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 58%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/h264_video_pwplugin_helper.exe (deflated 64%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/g726_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 54%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/h261-vic_video_pwplugin.dll (deflated 72%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/mpeg4-ffmpeg_video_pwplugin.dll (deflated 65%)
>   adding: Ekiga/plugins/lpc10_audio_pwplugin.dll (deflated 45%)
>   adding: Ekiga/avutil-50.dll (deflated 46%)
>   adding: Ekiga/libsasl.dll (deflated 55%)
> zip -9r /home/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/dist/ekiga_build-3.2.6.zip Makefile
> diff INSTALL
> zip warning: name not matched: INSTALL
>   adding: Makefile (deflated 75%)
>   adding: diff/ (stored 0%)
>   adding: diff/ptlib_vistastuck.diff (deflated 62%)
> tar cfvz /home/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/dist/ekiga_build-3.2.6.tgz Makefile
> diff INSTALL
> Makefile
> diff/
> diff/ptlib_vistastuck.diff
> tar: INSTALL: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> make: *** [/home/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/dist/zips] Error 2
> 

Seems a path error to me.
AFAIK you build in /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/
but zip and tar try to deflate in /home/ekiga-3.2.6/


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga win32 cross compilation on ubuntu 9.04

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t; -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/cairo
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/pango-1.0
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/glib-2.0
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/libpng12
> -mms-bitfields
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/glib-2.0
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/glib-2.0/include
> -mms-bitfields -DPTRACING=1 -fno-exceptions
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/opal
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/directx
> -mms-bitfields -DPTRACING=1 -fno-exceptions
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/directx
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/sigc++-2.0
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/sigc++-2.0/include
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include/libxml2
> -I/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/include -march=pentium-mmx
> -DPTRACING -mwindows -Wall -Wextra -Winit-self -Wswitch-default
> -Wswitch-enum -Wstrict-aliasing=2 -Wfloat-equal -Wshadow
> -DSTATIC_LIBS_USED -march=pentium-mmx -o .libs/ekiga.exe accounts.o
> callbacks.o conf.o dialpad.o assistant.o main.o misc.o preferences.o
> statusicon.o statusmenu.o ekiga.o plugin-gconst.o ../win32/ekiga-rc.o
> -L/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib ../lib/.libs/libekiga.a 
> ../lib/engine/.libs/libekiga_engine.a -lddraw 
> -L/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/openldap-2.3.28/lib 
> /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/libldap.dll.a -llutil 
> /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/liblber.dll.a -lsasl2 
> -lgtk-win32-2.0 -lgdk-win32-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 
> -lpangowin32-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgmodule-2.0 
> -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -lopal_d -lavifil32 
> /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/libspeexdsp.dll.a -lpt_d -lwinmm 
> -lwsock32 -lsnmpapi -lmpr -lcomdlg32 -lgdi32 -lavicap32 -liphlpapi -lregex 
> /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/libexpat.dll.a -ldsound -ldxerr9 
> -ldxguid -lstrmiids -lole32 -luuid -loleaut32 -lquartz -ldnsapi 
> /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/libsigc-2.0.dll.a 
> /home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib/libxml2.dll.a -lws2_32 
> -L/home/einfochips/sohil/ekiga-3.2.6/win32/lib
> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/4.2.1-sjlj/../../../../i586-mingw32msvc/bin/ld: 
> cannot find -lopal_d

AFAIK, lopal_d is the debug version of OPAL. Question is why Ekiga is
searching for the the debug version of opal? Is it because of your
ekiga's configure?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Hardy 8.04 version of Ekiga

[yannick]

Le dimanche 08 novembre 2009 à 11:34 -0500, Bill Collins a écrit :
> Currently using the version in the repository.
> 
> Is there an updated version of Ekiga for the Hardy 8.04 version of
> Ubuntu?
> 

No.

> If so how to install?

You'll need to compile it:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Download_Ekiga_sources
(which is not easy if you're used to compilation...)

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

[yannick]

Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 09:31 +0530, Sohil Shah a écrit :
> Hi,
>  The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are 
> well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover 
> from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also 
> suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be 
> clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also 
> insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference.
> These are merely my suggestions; No intentions of being 
> offensive :-)).

The documentation part, which is now in the wiki, will be reworked as
part of the wiki move to drupal. But it is a huge work I will do after
the Ekiga.net move to Drupal. Unfortunately, none of the core team use
Fedora/Red Hat, thus it is very hard for us to document it... If you
want, you can document this part; ask me and i'll grant you access to
the wiki.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

[yannick]

Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 13:20 +, David Ford a écrit :
> Already a great improvement!
> A few small things though.
> 1 - Community page says "You can subscribe on the right of this page"
> - it would be better, perhaps, to say "See below for mailing list
> information" - There is no subscribe info on the right.
> 

Fixed.

> 2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on
> all the wiki pages linked from the new site :
>   * Documentation
>   * Downloads -> Linux
>   * -> snapshots
>   * -> source
> Or maybe just in the wiki main menu?
> (I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install
> instructions.)
> 

I did not find out how to change the main menu in the wiki.

The plan is to move the wiki inside Drupal; this will fix the navigation
issue. It might happen even sooner than I first though...

> Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows!
> A big pat on the back to everyone.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Yannick

> David 
> 
> On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote: 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
> > manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
> > expected it.
> > 
> > We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
> > 
> > For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
> > explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
> > Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.
> > 
> > The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
> > know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
> > or the theme of the website much more easily.
> > 
> > Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
> > public. We want to provide the best experience possible.
> > 
> > BETA Ekiga.org:
> > http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > On behalf of the Ekiga team,
> > Yannick
> > 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

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Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 15:26 -0700, Ed a écrit :
> I would
> rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the
> front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the
> debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was
> broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if
> it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for
> current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo.
> Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a
> separate "home" page - as part of Community maybe?

Distro support is quite hard to achieve. I probably could code something
to get automatically the version of Ekiga available in the main distros.
But for an accurate view of available version outside the main
repositories we will need a contributor for each distro. Please contact
us if you want to give us relevant informations about a distro (any
distro; I speak about "main" distro when I think doing the support
myself but "main" is not much important, it just mean "less work for
me").

Actually 3 members of the team deals with packaging our latest version
for Debian, Ubuntu and windows. You probably do not use one of them; the
green button on the main page automatically detect if you use one of
them (you need javascript enabled in your browser) and present the
visitor a direct link to the relevant information for debian or ubuntu
or windows. For now it is hand written and I plan to have an
administrator interface in Drupal for this feature.

Snapshot is IMHO more important than you think. We need tests and
testers. The more snapshots are tested, the best a release will be. I do
not plan to move it deeper.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

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Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 15:26 -0700, Ed a écrit :
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, geo cherchetout
>  wrote:
> > Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos :
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
> >> manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
> >> expected it.
> >>
> >> We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
> >>
> >> For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
> >> explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
> >> Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.
> >
> > Hello Yannick,
> >
> > On the main page, in the window "Get Ekiga!" the link "Download Ekiga" is
> > broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads
> >
> >
> 
> New site looks clean and to the point - Just thinking that after the
> first or second latest release summary* it becomes less useful and you
> loose the sense that there is additional info at the bottom. I would
> rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the
> front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the
> debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was
> broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if
> it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for
> current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo.
> Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a
> separate "home" page - as part of Community maybe?

I agree the idea of being more synthetic about the changes in Ekiga,
especially between majors versions. Its is the point with the scheme
numbering of Ekiga version and the website should reflect that.

It might seems quite simple to do, but it is not. The work of just
writing the changelog from one version to another, even if minor, is
quite time consuming and we are somewhat weak in term of people working
on the project. I must deal in one hand with the people working on the
project and there my goal is to ease the process, in the other hand with
our users needs where your idea seems quite good to me. But with the
actual situation of the software we are using (the current drupal
installation) this would mean even more work for our contributors
because this will require hand-writing it, and I doubt this will work
nicely on the long run.

The situation is not dark, as drupal is like a big framework with a lot
of possibilities, but IMHO its weakness is not dealing well with
"features". e.g. it should not be hard to write the necessary code to
get a revision software handler just like you designed it but drupal do
not provide it "out-of-the-box". I've dig up the question and I thing
using the drupal's modules taxonomy, views and features would help. It
will need some coding time but probably not too long. Unfortunately,
there is other tasks requiring love and being to my eyes more important,
i.e. ekiga.net improvements. I'll do that when I find the time, or if
someone wants to jump in he will be welcome. I will put it on the public
roadmap to do some advertising around it.

> 
>  I would also like to see, on the Ekiga.org page, a graph (RRDTool)
> and even RSS feed on the status of Ekiga.net - this should be the
> "designated offsite" goto notice location to get info on Ekiga.net
> when there may be problems. A graph of utilization would also go a
> long way in getting some well deserved credit for Ekiga.net.

I will do something like that for ekiga.net as part of my work on it.
Damien will work on upgrading the software running the server there, we
will see if there is a tool already designated for monitoring it I can
use for the website or if I will need to write it. Still as quality
assurance around ekiga.net is one of our concerns, we will find a
solution soon I think.

Best regards,
Yannick

> 
> * a listing of latest minor revision changes followed by a major
> revision summary works best IMHO - you could even add a "coming
> milestones" section - more of a coming features set than the developer
> focus that the raodmap page seams to have.
> 
> minor revisions changes summary (3.2.6 specifics & diff back to 3.0)
> major revision achievement summary (3.0)
> next major revision objectives (4.0)
> distro status listing & links
> ekiga.net graph & RSS
> ekiga.net news
> 
> much thx for Ekiga - great stuff! download page made me laugh - Ponies!
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

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Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : 
> > Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
> > > yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
> > > > The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
> > > > know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
> > > > or the theme of the website much more easily.
> > > 
> > > Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
> > > security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
> > > /cron.php is world wide accessible.
> > > 
> 
> If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and
> want to improve the website design, please
> do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the
> current skin so that we present the best 
> community website possible.

Hi,

The site was empty during the past night, it is now back up again (I
moved it...)

I'm using the zen theming engine for drupal. I find it helpful to start
theming.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

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Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
> yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
> > The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
> > know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
> > or the theme of the website much more easily.
> 
> Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
> security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
> /cron.php is world wide accessible.
> 

That's fixed. Thank you.

> Content-wise it seems to be nice. I appreciate the move.

:)

Best regards,
Yannick

> 
> Regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

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Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 21:01 +0100, geo cherchetout a écrit :
> Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos :
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
> > manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
> > expected it.
> > 
> > We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
> > 
> > For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
> > explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
> > Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.
> 
> Hello Yannick,
> 
> On the main page, in the window "Get Ekiga!" the link "Download Ekiga" is
> broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads
> 
> 

Indeed. Thank you. It is fixed now.

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[Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

[yannick]

Hi,

We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
expected it.

We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.

For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
or the theme of the website much more easily.

Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
public. We want to provide the best experience possible.

BETA Ekiga.org:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/

Best regards,
On behalf of the Ekiga team,
Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga Compilation on Windows

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Le mardi 27 octobre 2009 à 20:21 +0530, Sohil Shah a écrit :
> Hi,
> How to compile ekiga on windows XP ? I've downloaded and 
> installed mingw32 5.X.X; but I dont know how to use it for compiling 
> ekiga. I understand that there is a makefile under ekiga/win32 folder 
> which I can use to compile ekiga. Morever I couldn't find any precise 
> specific documentation online for compiling ekiga on windows.
> I've managed to compile the same package (ekiga 3.2.6) on Linux ( Fedora 
> 11 x86 ).
> 

You can use precompiled binaries for Windows (3.2.6):
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users

I'm working on fixing our website to make them more visible...

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Re: [Ekiga-list] support: can't call "Echo test"

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wagne...@seas.upenn.edu a écrit :
> Quoting yannick :
> 
>> AFAIK ARCH Linux ships will many codecs and Ekiga has a bad bug when too
>> many codecs are enbled.
>>
>> Try to disable all video codecs but H261, and try to call the echo test
>> again.
> 
> Perfect, that works!
> ~d

Try to add video codecs 1 by 1 until you reach the threshold.
Theora is good for communication with other linux users, H263_1998 is
good with windows SIP clients interoperability. H261 is not really
interesting except for testing with our echo test (it is the worst video
quality in our codecs).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] support: can't call "Echo test"

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wagne...@seas.upenn.edu a écrit :
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm having a bit of trouble setting up Ekiga.  When I try to call the
> echo test number (sip:5...@ekiga.net), nothing happens; the "call" icon
> gets grayed out and the "hang up" icon is activated, but no sound is
> produced (even if I make noise during the entire call), and there is
> otherwise no indication that the call has succeeded in any way.  Here's
> what I've done so far:
> 
> * Installed Ekiga 3.2.5
> * Registered an account on ekiga.net
> * Verified that the correct sound devices are being used
> * Verified that the ekiga.net account shows up as "Registered" in the
> "Accounts" dialog
> * Forwarded UDP ports 3478-3479,5000-5100 and TCP port 1720 to my
> machine, as suggested on
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Internet_ports_used_by_Ekiga
> * Snagged the debug output given by "ekiga -d 4" during an attempted
> call (it's short, included in full below)
> * Attempted to follow the troubleshooting guide at
> http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router with little
> success: the very first thing it asks you to do is run the Configuration
> Assistant NAT Test, which I can't find anywhere in the Configuration
> Assistant
> 
> Any clues would be marvelous.
> 

AFAIK ARCH Linux ships will many codecs and Ekiga has a bad bug when too
many codecs are enbled.

Try to disable all video codecs but H261, and try to call the echo test
again.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Debian snapshots reloaded

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Damien Sandras a écrit :
> Le vendredi 16 octobre 2009 à 18:35 +0200, Eugen Dedu a écrit :
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ekiga snapshots (trunk/master) on debian have just been updated, they
>> will be available this night UTC.  There are a few changes:
>>
>> - ekiga now depends on libboost packages, as per code changes, instead
>> of libsigc++
>> - all the plugins except pulse are grouped into one -plugins package, as
>> per official debian packaging; the replacement from -plugins-... to
>> -plugins should be done automatically
>> - ekiga is split between one executable, one library and two plugins
>> (evolution and ldap).  evolution-data-server is not mandatory: if it
>> exists, ekiga will use it, if not it just does not use it :o)
>>
>> - temporarily, until some bug involving EchoCanceler is fixed,
>> opal/ekiga use speex(dsp) libraries not from the system, but the version
>> from its own code
>>
>> Note also that the trunk is a bit unstable at the moment.
>>
> 
> 
> When pulse is the only audio plugin, does the audio devices page
> disappear as expected ?
> Does it solve Yannick's issues with sound events on transfer ?
> 

Good job eugen! I will port those packages to Ubuntu after I finished
the work on Ekiga.org (and before starting working on ekiga.net, as I
consider testing a high priority).

After releasing those packages for Ubuntu, I will test the issue with
events on transfer.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 3.2.6 won't call

[yannick]

Javier Barroso a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Eugen Dedu
>  wrote:
>> Javier Barroso wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Javier Barroso  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Damien Sandras  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Le mercredi 14 octobre 2009 à 18:17 +0200, yannick a écrit :
>>>>>> Le mercredi 14 octobre 2009 à 13:09 +0200, Javier Barroso a écrit :
>>>>>>> Then I tried to call to 1999 extension, but ekiga didn't let me dial
>>>>>>> (no dial tone in my softphone).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously this extension works perfectly, and I can call to it
>>>>>>> sometimes but other not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can look ekiga debug output in pastebin [2]
>>>>>> I do not see any attempt to call in this log. Damien? Eugen?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Me neither...
>>>> I'm sure a wrote 1999 in "address bar" and then enter key, but did't
>>>> let me dial.
>>> I want to say that in this case, it was my first try to make a call.
>>> So it is normal you won't see any call (no call before this failure).
>>>
>>> ekiga keeps unusable until I close it and open again (a new instance).
>>> Then I can call, but not all the morning is working fine.
>> Javier,
>>
>> We do not understand well what happens.
>>
>> Do you wait until ekiga is registered, before trying 1999?  Are the
>> accounts registered before trying 1999 (look at the Accounts window)?
> Yes ekiga is registered (it happens too after a while using ekiga)
> 
>> When you type 1999, you have sip:1999 in the URL bar and a combobox is
>> opened to show you some completions.  When you press the green phone, is
>> this combobox closed or not?  Is the address completed (something like
>> sip:1...@ekiga.net) or not?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Yesterday I switch to kde4 to give a try ekiga outside awesome (to
> discard wm issues)
> 
> Now I discover one issue:
> 
> When I type 1999 in URL bar and type "enter" key then not let me dial.
> But, If in this moment (after it is not working) I select a number
> from call history and I can call to it (double click in the list).
> 
> Then I type 1999 in URL bar and it works !
> 
> Now I'm not sure if when it happens (it not call), the address is
> completed or not ... Next time it happens to me I'll reply your last
> parraph
> 

What happen if you try to place the call using not a number, but
somthing close to the form of an email:
do not try sip:1999
try: sip:1...@yourprovider (your provider is what you entered in the
account window, under the field registrar)
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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 3.2.6 won't call

[yannick]

Le mercredi 14 octobre 2009 à 13:09 +0200, Javier Barroso a écrit :
> Then I tried to call to 1999 extension, but ekiga didn't let me dial
> (no dial tone in my softphone).
> 
> Obviously this extension works perfectly, and I can call to it
> sometimes but other not.
> 
> You can look ekiga debug output in pastebin [2]

I do not see any attempt to call in this log. Damien? Eugen?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga.net

[yannick]

JimmyVolatile a écrit :
> Ok. So this is why I've never been able to register on Ubuntu...
> 

It is not related. I'm using Ubuntu, and I can register. You issue is
something else.

> /JimmyVolatile
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:11 AM, yannick  wrote:
> 
>> W.P. a écrit :
>>> Is ekiga.net DEAD? With 3 PROMILLE active users it seems to be.
>>>
>>> (because of lacking of possibility to edit account?, etc -> some time in
>>> the past it WAS possible).
>>>
>> I will start working on this in a few days (in 1 week or 2 most probably)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yannick
>>
>>> W.P.
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