I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning that their rig is too small for that
feature. At under 9 lbs, and the dimensions less than a loaf of bread, the
K3 is already so small that it is nearing functional limits on the front
panel compared to the size of fingers. And, yes, I think the IC-706
Charles,
I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over
size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of
help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft
co-founder Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables were debated. I went
through over 200 iterations of
I want this on a T-shirt! - jeff wk6i
wayne burdick wrote:
I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over
size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of
help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft co-founder
Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables
Was just off to work and decided to take my K1 with me for a a play a lunch
time, picked up a antenna i had been playing with and just connected it to the
k1 in the shack with the antenna thrown around the room, but i was powering the
K1 from a varable bench supply at the time, put it in tune
I don't get this rant. There ARE band-stacking registers on the K3. In
fact, FOUR per band instead of the three per band on the ProIII and only two
per band in some other radios. Yes, the band-changing UI is different than
the ProIII and other radios, but you know what? ... I've gotten to like
Paul,
First of all, my condolences!
The easiest way to approach it is to look at the schematic and find
which devices connect to 12 volts, and suspect any or all of them until
they have proved themselves OK. The initial list is D19, Q7, Q6, U9 and
U5 (plus any components associated with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
When ever did a ham say, oh gosh, this radio is just too big?
You're new around here, aren't you?
:-)
I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning...
O...well then, you're free to design your own! Obviously many thousands
of happy
Elecrafters don't agree with
I'd like to understand more about the use of the
buttons M1 through M4, as they apply to memory recall
within a given band.
The best way for Elecraft to show off this radio's
bazillion functions is to create a meta-tagged MPEG4
video of someone (Wayne?) going through each function
of the entire
Steve Jackson wrote:
Yes, it would be nice to just hit the 40m button to
get there and then tap it again to move between
frequencies on that band. An hour up at HRO in
Sunnyvale playing with a PROIII front panel would have
convinced me of that.
I used to agree with that - that having Band
I had a 756PRO years ago which I sold after I got the K2. The band
scope was a nice toy, but I really didn't miss it. It made no
difference to my signal at the other end, and it didn't help me copy
people better either. As for helping to spot activity on a dead band,
well, the K2 has a nice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
When ever did a ham say, oh gosh, this radio is just too big?
I've looked at the Ten-Tec Orion and the bigger Yaesus and said
exactly that. A glance at the picture on my home page will explain
why.
Mind you, after I said that, I also said never mind, I can't afford
It's not the content of the response that's impressive - it's the fact that
you got one in the first place. This contributes to why so many people are
willing to lay down their hard earned cash on a radio they have never seen.
From Charles I do not accept.
From Wayne giant phone bill,
- Original Message -
From: Charles Allison
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug
Chris,
My wife got the bug bug, the straight key bug, the iambic key bug... fairly
recently too. She is a dedicated but fairly slow cw
I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY,
at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site,
talks about order-date. But with the initial
waiting periods, and now another 4-week delay
in shipments - it makes much more sense, to
start our K3 rig warranties, from the day
the units ship.
I
On this side of the lake these bits are known as brad-points...There is
another similar type known as Forstner, but they are much more expensive and
I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters...
Jerry, wa2dkg
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using
I would say because the display can be used for
lots more then JUST a band scope.
The band scope is most useful in AM mode that I
operate frequently, a bit harder to read when using ssb
and cw maybe...but it can tell you if a band has any
signals on it at a glance.
If you remember, you could
I was hoping someone would answer me on this one. The phone lines at
Elecraft don't open until I am at work.
I am about done with part 1 of the assembly of the KPA100 option. I opened
the K2 and removed pin 4 from P4 on the control board per the instructions.
Rather than connect the partially
Fred:
Don't worry, pal... they'll make it 'right'..
Tom Hammond N0SS
At 09:39 07/27/2007, Fred (FL) wrote:
I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY,
at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site,
talks about order-date. But with the initial
waiting periods, and now another 4-week
In the spirit of the movie Tommy Boy: That was -- awesome! ---
but sorry about your cats and hair though
I usually lurk here, but couldn't resist commenting on Wayne's response to
an apparent rant. I got my hands on the K3 in Dayton while working in the
Elecraft booth. I watched
On this side of the lake these bits are known as brad-points...There is another similar
type known as Forstner, but they are much more expensive and I am not sure they are
available in the smaller diameters...
After a few days use, I've found the diamond core drills to work pretty
W4ZV:
How are these indicated on the display? I don't see
an indication on the high resolution picture. Of course I
used an Orion for several years without band- stacking
indication but I hope the K3 has one.
No indication planned on the display. You select the per-band memory
Forstner bits are available to 1/8th inch, but are expensive. The reason
not to use them is that the cutting edge would dull in no time due to the
copper clad board. A real waste of a good bit.
Mike K4ELV
- Original Message -
From: Jeremiah McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I lost most of my hair, buried two cats, had a
son, and worked until dawn more times than I want to
admit.
I'm calling Yaesu today to find out how many cats they
buried in the development of the FT1000MP.
I want the BEST.
Or is this a Michael Vick reference?
I sure hope Wayne didn't fall
Don't feel bad Fred. It's such a problem for me I avoid keyers now. I
considered Arnie's option because, being nominally a leftie as a child I
learned the straight key left handed then learned the bug right handed
(ambidextrousness is a bonus at times). I never had any confusion with
muscle
I am not at all enamored with a band stacking register indicator. They
added one to the Orion and it is meaningless. How do I remember what band
stacking register 3 on 20 meters is vs. band stacking register 4 or band
staking register 3 on 40 meters. The display already shows you the
W0YK:
No indication planned on the display. You select the per-band memory you
want by tapping M-V followed by the appropriate M1-M4 button. (Programmed
by V-M.) Numbered memories 00-99 are global.
I've got it now. You directly access the desired stack
memory by choosing M1-M4. So
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
When I do use a keyer these days (e.g. my KX1 in the field) I use it like a
'bug', tapping the dash lever for each dash, etc. Not an ideal solution, but
it helps avoid my reverting to keyer muscle memory and 'forgetting' how to
use a bug again. For me, that happens very
No wonder I was being confused by all this - HEY, if you can access any
of the 4 memories randomly, then it is no longer a 'stack'!
From what little programming I learned, a 'stack' is accessed only from
the top - you stuff things into it, and then remove the topmost one,
throw it away if
Here is a sample conversation from the #elecraft channel.
Try out your irc skills. It would be nice to have a little more activity.
On irc IRC.WorldIRC.ORG (WordIRC) channel #elecraft
n7gmt well, not at home but ... :-)
nv7f yes, where can I buy that really small 50 ohm coax used inside
radios
Don Wilhelm wrote:
No wonder I was being confused by all this - HEY, if you can access
any of the 4 memories randomly, then it is no longer a 'stack'!
From what little programming I learned, a 'stack' is accessed only
from the top - you stuff things into it, and then remove the topmost
one,
Steve,
There is no direct relationship between your symptoms and what you
intended to accomplish. So this is something that inadvertently
happened along the way.
The first thing to do is inspect the control board visually - in most
cases an unsoldered or poorly soldered connection is to
unnecessary. I also like being able to directly access a
stack memory with just 2 button presses, rather than
potentially using 4 presses via scrolling, as in Orion and Omni VII.
Exactly. Leave it to Elecraft to thoughtfully consider the use case for
band-stacking registers and implement a
Hi,
A reminder that logs for the Colorado QSO Party need to be submitted by
July 31st. As of July 27th, 144 logs were received. Only about 20 are
mobile logs. From received logs it appears
there should be nearly 50 mobile logs. Please submit your in-state or
out-of-state logs
by the
unnecessary. I also like being able to directly
access a
stack memory with just 2 button presses, rather than
potentially using 4 presses via scrolling, as in
Orion and Omni VII.
Exactly. Leave it to Elecraft to thoughtfully
consider the use case for
band-stacking registers and implement
Hello,
The Flight of the Bumblebees is upon us again and I will try to be out on
the Appalachian trail as BB#35. I like to operate this contest a lot but I
never have too much success with the weather. Usually get rained out with
violent thunderstorms.
The weather for my BB area on Sunday
At 12:15 PM 27/07/07, you wrote:
We should probably stop perpetuating the name band-stacking
registers since the K3 has
random access band memories. That's just the name everyone knows the
function by since prior radios implemented it that way.
73,
Ed - W0YK
How about direct access band
Hello Good People..!
I just HAD to add my 2p/2c worth to this one..
Speaking primarily as a guy who has been involved in radio as a Window To
The Outside World..and a disabled operator
In a wheelchair, where radio IS his life.. for communication, pleasure and
the HIM the umpteenth Wonder Of The
Geoff, GM4ESD, has asked the relevant question how much shunt
capacitance is present in a PCB island when cut with a core drill?
I've tried to answer that question with a combination of theory and
measured data, which are in close agreement. The details are at
The link I posted has a direct jump to bookmark and might cause some
browsers a problem. The main prototyping page is at
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm and might be a better
starting point.
Jack K8ZOA
Jack Smith wrote:
Geoff, GM4ESD, has asked the relevant question how
In a previous post I stated that I had a set of bits that were designed
specifically for this purpose.
I dug the kit out of my PCB toolkit and have the following information.
Note: The reference to the company that made the kit yielded only one
reference
on Google and a post on kkn.net
John,
The 'random' goes with the 'access' and not with 'memory'.
The terms 'random access' and 'serial access' have been used since the
days computers started to move away from tape I/O devices (serial
access) to other devices where you could point to any data address and
access it (random
My point exactly!
John
k7up
At 01:12 PM 27/07/07, you wrote:
We have too much time on our hands.
Bob Serwy - N9RS
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:03 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE:
Hi Don Gary
As a person who has been sending RAM uploads to satellites since
1964, 21 years with the Air Force and 20 years working for NASA, I
have somewhat of an idea of what RAM is. Had to build loads and send
them real time on the fly many times in emergency situations, to
ensure things
Geoff, GM4ESD, has asked the relevant question how much shunt
capacitance is present in a PCB island when cut with a core drill?
-
I have found that it's useful capacitance at the right times and very
problematic at other times.
I've never used Manhattan style
I would -NOT- want to see the K3 larger, especially if only
to accomodate a band display! I've just sold an IC-756 PRO II
to help cover the cost of my K3 ... never used the band display.
The small size is a (minor) consideration in my choice. It will be
used in our RV six months out of each
Ah, yes, thanks for the reminder. I think the 'torpedo' refers to
Australia. I got this tip from a QRP manual.
David
G3UNA
- Original Message -
From: Jeremiah McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Wood bits
Warranty isn't an issue for me, given Elecraft's reputation.
As others have said in one way or another ... there aren't
many (any?) manufacturers/dealers that we'd stand in line to
say, Here, please take my money and ship when you can. (:-))
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The small size is a (minor) consideration in my choice.
It will be used in our RV six months out of each year,
as is/was my K2.
I wasn't going to contribute to the noise, but with people questioning the
relative importance of size I wanted to add one voice in favor of small.
I work from
What can I say? We pored over many ancient texts on archaeology,
architecture, alchemistry, and the Dynamics of Mojo. We consulted
Ouija. We drank strong northern California herbal teas and stout
Microbrew. Under the circumstances, the evidence was irrefutable: only
an enclosure exactly 4H, 10
Holy Crap, that tea must be good!
Can I add to my order some of that (what Wayne is
having) please?
:-)
[Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
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Fri Jul 27 17:55:49 EDT 2007
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So it had nothing to do with the fact that it looked nice? :)
Must remember to get cognitive gestalt into my next dull meeting at work!
73
Paul
M1PAF
-Original Message-
Under the circumstances, the evidence was irrefutable: only
an enclosure exactly 4H, 10 1/2W, and 10D would optimize
Expelliarmus!
Accio K3!
Leigh/WA5ZNU
N6KR wrote:
What can I say? We pored over many ancient texts on archaeology,
architecture, alchemistry, and the Dynamics of Mojo. We consulted
Ouija
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Ron, I plan to be atop MacDonald Pass (6,500 feet) just outside of Helena, MT
with my Outbacker and my KX-1 (and ATS-3A) as BB#219. So I hope to give you MT
for WAS...73, Ci
Ci Jones, WU7R
FISTS #10789, CC# 1853
SKCC #22, C#38
NAQCC #306
QRPARCI #12163
In a message dated 07/27/07 14:57:11
I purchased this encoder from CUI as a replacement for the stock encoder so
that it would tune faster in the 10Hz mode. The stock encoder is 25 CPR so
it tunes 1Khz per revolution in 10 Hz mode. With this encoder, you will tune
3 Khz per revolution in 10 Hz mode. Will sell for $25 and that
I have decided to slim down the shack in order to buy the latest and
greatest, so offer my K2 for sale. It is serial nr 4490 and has the
latest firmware. It has been checked and professionally aligned by
Wilcox Engineering (and the report will be sent with the rig). The K2
has:
- KPA100
- KDSP2
-
In a message dated 7/27/07 5:55:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
only
an enclosure exactly 4H, 10 1/2W, and 10D would optimize the index
of cognitive gestalt for a multipurpose amateur transceiver.
Sure beats having it be a monolithic black slab in the ratio
It is amazing to me that such a small group of individuals can design and
produce a product of this complexity and quality.
That a handful of people did this is just . amazing. Where is their
multimillion dollar research department, their HR department, their
executive support? How could they
wayne burdick wrote:
We drank strong northern California herbal teas and stout Microbrew.
I didn't know Starbuck's had strong herbal teas. But then, Elecraft
IS in the Bay Area, as is Barry Bonds. I was aware of the stout
Microbrew however.
73,
Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest
For the sake of the Archives, here's the epilogue.
I replaced D1 and D2, with no change in behavior. Tracing showed that
there was close to 0V at the outputs of U5 during transmit. With power
off, the resistances at the inputs of U5 were about 10 ohms! The op amps
must have been zapped as
One thing about Vibroplex: they never figured out how to make a weight!!
Their weights are small in diameter. That means they essentially make the
pendulum thicker! That doesn't work worth a darn.
My Vibroplex will drop to about 23 WPM with THREE Vibroplex weights loading
up the pendulum.
Maybe you've heard the old saying Too many Chefs spoil the Broth or words
to that effect. Many years of developing highly sophisticated space hardware
taught me and many in my field that nothing can compete with a compact and
highly motivated development team. In fact the best ones depend
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