Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Andy’s point that the KXUSB actually has 0 to 5V output on its TxD line is correct. This is most likely the limiter in how long of a cable you can have between the KXUSB and the KAT500. The actual length is probably best derived by trial and error. As K9YC points out, the rise and fall times of

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Spinning VFO B very quickly shuts down K3

2023-11-28 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R
Hi Al; Strange, check for corrupt FPF, here are my notes. Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech Corrupt FPF, confirmed by looking at the Config menu item “XV1” then tapping 9 and looking for strange entries for XV9, RF or IF usually have weird values,  (144 and 28 are the default). Check that ADC ref is NOT

Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/28/2023 6:46 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: Isn't it true that the KAT500 USB cable uses RS-232 protocol but TTL signal levels? T RS-232 is NOT a matched transmission line -- it's a low-Z source and high-Z input. The limitation on line length is not signal strength, but rounding of the

Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Durbin
Scope traces for a typical KAT500 serial data interface can be found here - https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ypk0ks16rl03d55ugm4t9/KAT500-signal-levels.pdf?rlkey=7iahis4xp0jnua3c8s577cxjq=0 I can also confirm that KAT500 works just fine when interfaced with a genuine MAX 3232 RS-232 line driver.

Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread W2HX
Well to be pedantic the RS-232 (EIA-232) spec says the following: " Valid signals are either in the range of +3 to +15 volts or the range −3 to −15 volts with respect to the "Common Ground" (GND) pin; consequently, the range between −3 and +3 volts is not a valid RS-232 level." So the

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2023-11-28 Thread Jack Hubbard
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Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
So that everyone reading understands, the KAT500 IS RS-232/IEEE-232 compatible in its voltage levels. It is NOT TTL (0,5v) compatible. 73, Jack, W6FB Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 28, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: > >  > "Indeed, it is NOT true that the KAT500 uses TTL signal levels

Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Durbin
"Indeed, it is NOT true that the KAT500 uses TTL signal levels for the serial port. " Ah, but I said "Isn't it true that the KAT500 USB cable uses RS-232 protocol but TTL signal levels? " Perhaps I should have been more specific. My recollection is that the USB/Serial cable transmits a TTL

Re: [Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Andy, you do a great job of keeping me on my toes. But... Indeed, it is NOT true that the KAT500 uses TTL signal levels for the serial port. The KAT500 has voltage translation circuitry that allows for the use of quasi-RS232 signal levels. Quasi? Yes, the transmit data goes to +12 Volts, but it

[Elecraft] USB/3.5mm Extension?

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Durbin
"Yes. At the point for the extension, the signals are RS-232, not USB. You should be able to use a much longer cable if need-be." Isn't it true that the KAT500 USB cable uses RS-232 protocol but TTL signal levels? TTL may not be as tolerant of length extension as true RS-232. Certainly no