Thought i'd post a followup to my question about the quietness of this supply.... Bought one a couple weeks ago.... At least in my installation it seems quiet as a mouse....
Scott ne9u Sent from my C64 elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: >Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (John Kramer) > 2. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (d...@lightstream.net) > 3. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (John Kramer) > 4. Re: SideKar vs PX3 More (steve) > 5. Re: P3 TX mon (Dr. William J. Schmidt, II) > 6. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (Joe Subich, W4TV) > 7. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (Phil Wheeler) > 8. Australia trip (Thaire Bryant) > 9. Hi Res K3S+P3 Studio Picture (1920x1080) available for > download (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) > 10. (K3S) Transferring configuration from K3 (Terry Schieler) > 11. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (John Kramer) > 12. KPA presents high SWR to rig (Deepak VU2CDP) > 13. [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday trailer (Al Sather) > 14. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (Jim Brown) > 15. Re: [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday trailer (Bob N3MNT) > 16. Re: [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday trailer (Al Sather) > 17. Re: P3 TX mon (W4CCS) > 18. Re: [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday trailer (Jim Brown) > 19. KX3 Suite for Sale (Patrick Taylor via Elecraft) > 20. Re: P3 vs SDR-IQ (Walter Underwood) > 21. Re: KPA presents high SWR to rig (Guy Olinger K2AV) > 22. Re: Australia trip (Phil Anderson) > 23. Re: Incremental build /design suggestions? (Kevin Cozens) > 24. Re: KPA presents high SWR to rig (Deepak VU2CDP) > 25. Re: Incremental build /design suggestions? (Bob McGraw - K4TAX) > 26. Re: Incremental build /design suggestions? (Jim Brown) > 27. Re: Incremental build /design suggestions? (Don Wilhelm) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:57:26 +0200 >From: John Kramer <jkra...@iafrica.com> >To: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> >Cc: Joe Word <n9vx....@gmail.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net, "Eric > Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <e...@elecraft.com> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <b431de41-90db-40b9-8129-30c50bafc...@iafrica.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >Wayne > >Apologies, I have never seen a P3 in action before, I live too far away from >locations >that have regular hamfests. Maybe I should go and watch some youtube clips. >I just thought the basic architecture in the P3 would be the same as my >PX3. >But, reading your last two paragraphs, tells me the issue I have with my PX3 >also happens on the P3 - In tracking mode averaging info is reset the moment >you tune. I find this loss of averaging when tuning, to be totally counter >intuitive when trying to home in on a signal. It?s difficult to see a station, >and find where you are trying to tune to, when the display loses its averaging. > >Thanks for the good work at Elecraft, and your quick response > >73 >John, ZS5J C91J A25J > > > > > > > >On 31 Jul 2015, at 3:42 PM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: > >John, > >The P3 and PX3 use entirely different interfaces to the radio. The P3 taps >into the K3/K3S 8.2 MHz I.F., while the PX3 uses a baseband I/Q signal from >the KX3. While both methods provide the basic benefits of a panadapter, the >P3's implementation provides higher performance, using more expensive >hardware, and is priced accordingly. > >The P3 is incredibly smooth in its tuning and presentation, and the unit is >widely regarded as one of best panadapters available. Averaging, fixed-tune >mode, noise blanking, peak detection and its many other features are all free >of any sort of tuning noise or artifacts. > >If you're in "fixed-tune" mode, where the VFO/filter cursor moves across the >screen, averaging information is preserved. There is no increase in the noise >floor, no matter how fast you tune. > >In "tracking" mode, where the VFO/filter cursor stays fixed at the center of >the screen, averaging information is reset when you tune. This has always been >the case, but I'll mention this to our panadapter design staff and see if it >might be possible to preserve the averaging data in tracking mode. > >In any case, I hope you can observe a P3 in action sometime. > >73, >Wayne >N6KR > > >On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:13 AM, John Kramer <jkra...@iafrica.com> wrote: > >> I think I know what Joe is getting at?.and I agree with him, if I understand >> him correctly. When he refers to ?noise floor? >> he means that he loses averaging when he tunes, resulting in the crazy >> spectrum display (what Joe refers to as noise). >> >> I haven?t seen or used a P3, but I bought my first Elecraft products 3 weeks >> ago - a KX3 and PX3. If the P3 behaves in the >> same manner as the PX3 then I can see what Joe is complaining about. Right >> out the box my PX3 had this frustrating >> feature of losing averaging the moment you spun the VFO on the KX3. I >> pointed this out to a local KX3/PX3 owner, and >> he told me to download the latest firmware which allows you to select ?fixed >> mode? or ?fixed track?. I downloaded the >> firmware. YES, it kinda fixes the problem?.you can now tune the radio and >> KEEP the averaging?.but the problem is >> that now your receive filter goes down the display as you tune. This is >> better than the previous method, however >> you now have your receive filter heavily offset from the centre of the >> display. You might tune down the band, with your >> RX filter at the bottom of the scale, and you are now unable to see much >> below, but you can see a huge chunk of >> the band above you. >> >> I bought the KX3 and PX3 for portable ops. My main rigs for the past 5 years >> are Flex rigs. I have the 5000/3000/1500 >> and will be getting a 6500 soon as my shack rigs. With these rigs and PSDR, >> your RX filter REMAINS CENTRED and when >> you tune around the band, you DON?T LOSE your averaging. This is how I like >> it to be, and if Elecraft can achieve this >> in a firmware update, I would be very happy. >> >> 73 >> John, ZS5J >> >> >> >> >> >> On 31 Jul 2015, at 2:56 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft >> <e...@elecraft.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Joe - Do you have signal averaging turned on to reduce the noise floor? >> If you do, it has to stop averaging when the freq is being changed while >> tuning, temporarily raising the noise floor slightly. It then re-starts >> multi-pass averaging once you stop tuning. This is normal for signal >> averaging. I run with averaging set =2 or 3 passes. When I tune I barely >> notice a small increase in the noise floor. >> >> If you have a lot of local pulse noise, you might want to turn on the P3s NB >> function to help. >> >> If Averaging is turned off, I can't think of a normal scenario where the >> noise floor would go up when tuning the band. It certainly does not here. >> >> Anyone else have any ideas? >> >> 73, >> >> Eric >> /elecraft.com/ >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:15:51 -0400 (EDT) >From: "d...@lightstream.net" <d...@lightstream.net> >To: "John Kramer" <jkra...@iafrica.com> >Cc: Joe Word <n9vx....@gmail.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: > <50345.71.74.118.201.1438352151.squir...@mail.expedient.net> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >John, > >It's true that in Fixed tune mode when you cross the boundary at either >end of the current span, the screen refreshes to the new span and you lose >your waterfall history. But in Tracking mode, don't you lose waterfall >history each time you tune? > >Regarding your PX3, have you tried positioning MKR A on the signal of >interest, and then tapping the 'SELECT' knob on the PX3 to instantly take >you there? By doing that, you won't lose track of that signal. If you >decide you want to go back, push and hold the 'SELECT' knob to return to >your previous frequency. > >73, Dale >WA8SRA > >> ><snipped /> And also, in Fixed mode, when >> it reaches the >> end of the display, it jumps back to the middle, and refreshes the >> waterfall - so any waterfall >> history that you had, is lost :( >> I have never used a Flex 6000 series radio, but I have been using, and >> still have the 5000A, >> 3000 and 1500. The system they use works just the way I want it - the RX >> filter remains centred >> in the display, and when you tune, the averaging remains on at all times. >> >> 73 >> John, ZS5J >> >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:27:03 +0200 >From: John Kramer <jkra...@iafrica.com> >To: "d...@lightstream.net" <d...@lightstream.net> >Cc: Joe Word <n9vx....@gmail.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <51d6ce0e-ea80-4c1f-9934-1c5136e82...@iafrica.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >Dale > >See, there are limitations to both tracking and fixed modes. >1. Yes, in tracking mode you don?t lose your waterfall - BUT you lose your >averaging when you tune. >2. If you want averaging to stay on all the time - tuning or not, then you can >choose ?fixed?, but then the limitation with that mode, is that your VFO >filter moves along the display, drops off the edge, and refreshes the >waterfall history. > >I would like to see a combination of both, which is the way it works with >Flex and PSDR - VFO receive filter remains centred, and does not move off to >one side?.and at the same time, while tuning, averaging remains on all >the time. > >Yes, I have tried the MKR option, but find it quite fiddly, lots of knob >pushing to >achieve something, so I generally don?t use it. > >73 >John, ZS5J C91J A25J > > > > > > >On 31 Jul 2015, at 4:15 PM, d...@lightstream.net wrote: > >John, > >It's true that in Fixed tune mode when you cross the boundary at either >end of the current span, the screen refreshes to the new span and you lose >your waterfall history. But in Tracking mode, don't you lose waterfall >history each time you tune? > >Regarding your PX3, have you tried positioning MKR A on the signal of >interest, and then tapping the 'SELECT' knob on the PX3 to instantly take >you there? By doing that, you won't lose track of that signal. If you >decide you want to go back, push and hold the 'SELECT' knob to return to >your previous frequency. > >73, Dale >WA8SRA > >> ><snipped /> And also, in Fixed mode, when >> it reaches the >> end of the display, it jumps back to the middle, and refreshes the >> waterfall - so any waterfall >> history that you had, is lost :( >> I have never used a Flex 6000 series radio, but I have been using, and >> still have the 5000A, >> 3000 and 1500. The system they use works just the way I want it - the RX >> filter remains centred >> in the display, and when you tune, the averaging remains on at all times. >> >> 73 >> John, ZS5J >> >> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:43:38 -0400 >From: steve <sm.shearer...@gmail.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SideKar vs PX3 More >Message-ID: <55bb899a.10...@gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Brian, Thank you for the link... >the last time I looked at the netbooks the price was high... Or >discontinued. >I use MINT (replacement for xp) on my "full" sized old laptop and it >runs fldigi and wsjtx just fine (and USB sound card) and speed is about >the same, too. >Mint (linux) works the KX3 and PX3 utilities, also. >It would be nice to have a smaller computer. > >73, steve WB3LGC > > >On 30-Jul-15 8:40 AM, brian wrote: >> It seems this dilemma can be solved by something like a 10" screen >> WINDOWs laptop. You get display, keyboard, the ability to run >> FLDIGI. They probably run on batteries as long as the rig et al. A >> few years ago I had an ACER aspire 1 (?). It ran everything I tried >> including sound card stuff. >> >> Here is one for about $125. >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AOA150-1447-8-9-Inch-Processor-Sapphire/dp/B001EYV9TM >> >> >> >> 73 de Brian/K3KO >> >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:49:52 -0500 >From: "Dr. William J. Schmidt, II" <b...@wjschmidt.com> >To: W4CCS <w4...@w4ccs.com> >Cc: "<Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX mon >Message-ID: <31c5388b-fa31-485b-acfc-eca5b0fab...@wjschmidt.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Interesting. I wondered how this worked. My P3TXMON was shipped this week so >ill get to play with it soon, but one would think the scale would be >adjustable so that whatever power is seen, you could make that the full scale. >This is just a scaling issue. Otherwise running the KPA500 with the 2000 watt >sensor will only use one-quarter of the scale. Obviously the digital display >still works right because no scaling is involved. > > >Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ > >Owner - Operator >Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC >Staunton, Illinois > >Owner ? Operator >Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ >Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. >Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com > >email: b...@wjschmidt.com > > >> On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:29 AM, W4CCS <w4...@w4ccs.com> wrote: >> >> Received the P3 TXMON option yesterday.. Took about 10 minutes to install >> and works flawless.. THANKS Elecraft..!! >> >> >> >> The only drawback I see is the lack of the option to set full scale at 1500 >> watts and not 2000 watts.. Just a personal preference But all is good.. >> >> >> >> Clyde Scott - W4CCS >> >> Moultrie, GA - EM81cg >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to b...@wjschmidt.com > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:03:28 -0400 >From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <55bb8e40.9080...@subich.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > >> It?s difficult to see a station, and find where you are trying to >> tune to, when the display loses itsaveraging. > >As a long time user of the P3, I strenuously disagree with that >assessment. > >73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >On 2015-07-31 9:57 AM, John Kramer wrote: >> Wayne >> >> Apologies, I have never seen a P3 in action before, I live too far away from >> locations >> that have regular hamfests. Maybe I should go and watch some youtube clips. >> I just thought the basic architecture in the P3 would be the same as my >> PX3. >> But, reading your last two paragraphs, tells me the issue I have with my PX3 >> also happens on the P3 - In tracking mode averaging info is reset the moment >> you tune. I find this loss of averaging when tuning, to be totally counter >> intuitive when trying to home in on a signal. It?s difficult to see a >> station, >> and find where you are trying to tune to, when the display loses its >> averaging. >> >> Thanks for the good work at Elecraft, and your quick response >> >> 73 >> John, ZS5J C91J A25J >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 31 Jul 2015, at 3:42 PM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: >> >> John, >> >> The P3 and PX3 use entirely different interfaces to the radio. The P3 taps >> into the K3/K3S 8.2 MHz I.F., while the PX3 uses a baseband I/Q signal from >> the KX3. While both methods provide the basic benefits of a panadapter, the >> P3's implementation provides higher performance, using more expensive >> hardware, and is priced accordingly. >> >> The P3 is incredibly smooth in its tuning and presentation, and the unit is >> widely regarded as one of best panadapters available. Averaging, fixed-tune >> mode, noise blanking, peak detection and its many other features are all >> free of any sort of tuning noise or artifacts. >> >> If you're in "fixed-tune" mode, where the VFO/filter cursor moves across the >> screen, averaging information is preserved. There is no increase in the >> noise floor, no matter how fast you tune. >> >> In "tracking" mode, where the VFO/filter cursor stays fixed at the center of >> the screen, averaging information is reset when you tune. This has always >> been the case, but I'll mention this to our panadapter design staff and see >> if it might be possible to preserve the averaging data in tracking mode. >> >> In any case, I hope you can observe a P3 in action sometime. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:13 AM, John Kramer <jkra...@iafrica.com> wrote: >> >>> I think I know what Joe is getting at?.and I agree with him, if I >>> understand him correctly. When he refers to ?noise floor? >>> he means that he loses averaging when he tunes, resulting in the crazy >>> spectrum display (what Joe refers to as noise). >>> >>> I haven?t seen or used a P3, but I bought my first Elecraft products 3 >>> weeks ago - a KX3 and PX3. If the P3 behaves in the >>> same manner as the PX3 then I can see what Joe is complaining about. Right >>> out the box my PX3 had this frustrating >>> feature of losing averaging the moment you spun the VFO on the KX3. I >>> pointed this out to a local KX3/PX3 owner, and >>> he told me to download the latest firmware which allows you to select >>> ?fixed mode? or ?fixed track?. I downloaded the >>> firmware. YES, it kinda fixes the problem?.you can now tune the radio and >>> KEEP the averaging?.but the problem is >>> that now your receive filter goes down the display as you tune. This is >>> better than the previous method, however >>> you now have your receive filter heavily offset from the centre of the >>> display. You might tune down the band, with your >>> RX filter at the bottom of the scale, and you are now unable to see much >>> below, but you can see a huge chunk of >>> the band above you. >>> >>> I bought the KX3 and PX3 for portable ops. My main rigs for the past 5 >>> years are Flex rigs. I have the 5000/3000/1500 >>> and will be getting a 6500 soon as my shack rigs. With these rigs and PSDR, >>> your RX filter REMAINS CENTRED and when >>> you tune around the band, you DON?T LOSE your averaging. This is how I like >>> it to be, and if Elecraft can achieve this >>> in a firmware update, I would be very happy. >>> >>> 73 >>> John, ZS5J >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 2:56 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft >>> <e...@elecraft.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Joe - Do you have signal averaging turned on to reduce the noise floor? >>> If you do, it has to stop averaging when the freq is being changed while >>> tuning, temporarily raising the noise floor slightly. It then re-starts >>> multi-pass averaging once you stop tuning. This is normal for signal >>> averaging. I run with averaging set =2 or 3 passes. When I tune I barely >>> notice a small increase in the noise floor. >>> >>> If you have a lot of local pulse noise, you might want to turn on the P3s >>> NB function to help. >>> >>> If Averaging is turned off, I can't think of a normal scenario where the >>> noise floor would go up when tuning the band. It certainly does not here. >>> >>> Anyone else have any ideas? >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Eric >>> /elecraft.com/ >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to li...@subich.com >> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 08:36:20 -0700 >From: Phil Wheeler <w...@socal.rr.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <55bb95f4.5060...@socal.rr.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >I agree with Joe. My usage of the P3 and the PX3 >is 100% fixed-tune mode, and I find both the P3 >and PX3 to work very well for me. They do differ >in amplitude scale in A-B comparisons, but this is >compensated for by scale adjustments. > >I've never really found a situation where Tracking >mode is helpful, but maybe I'm missing something. > >73, Phil W7OX > >On 7/31/15 8:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >>> It?s difficult to see a station, and find where >>> you are trying to >>> tune to, when the display loses itsaveraging. >> >> As a long time user of the P3, I strenuously >> disagree with that >> assessment. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2015-07-31 9:57 AM, John Kramer wrote: >>> Wayne >>> >>> Apologies, I have never seen a P3 in action >>> before, I live too far away from locations >>> that have regular hamfests. Maybe I should go >>> and watch some youtube clips. >>> I just thought the basic architecture in the P3 >>> would be the same as my >>> PX3. >>> But, reading your last two paragraphs, tells me >>> the issue I have with my PX3 >>> also happens on the P3 - In tracking mode >>> averaging info is reset the moment >>> you tune. I find this loss of averaging when >>> tuning, to be totally counter >>> intuitive when trying to home in on a signal. >>> It?s difficult to see a station, >>> and find where you are trying to tune to, when >>> the display loses its averaging. >>> >>> Thanks for the good work at Elecraft, and your >>> quick response >>> >>> 73 >>> John, ZS5J C91J A25J >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 3:42 PM, Wayne Burdick >>> <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: >>> >>> John, >>> >>> The P3 and PX3 use entirely different >>> interfaces to the radio. The P3 taps into the >>> K3/K3S 8.2 MHz I.F., while the PX3 uses a >>> baseband I/Q signal from the KX3. While both >>> methods provide the basic benefits of a >>> panadapter, the P3's implementation provides >>> higher performance, using more expensive >>> hardware, and is priced accordingly. >>> >>> The P3 is incredibly smooth in its tuning and >>> presentation, and the unit is widely regarded >>> as one of best panadapters available. >>> Averaging, fixed-tune mode, noise blanking, >>> peak detection and its many other features are >>> all free of any sort of tuning noise or artifacts. >>> >>> If you're in "fixed-tune" mode, where the >>> VFO/filter cursor moves across the screen, >>> averaging information is preserved. There is no >>> increase in the noise floor, no matter how fast >>> you tune. >>> >>> In "tracking" mode, where the VFO/filter cursor >>> stays fixed at the center of the screen, >>> averaging information is reset when you tune. >>> This has always been the case, but I'll mention >>> this to our panadapter design staff and see if >>> it might be possible to preserve the averaging >>> data in tracking mode. >>> >>> In any case, I hope you can observe a P3 in >>> action sometime. >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:13 AM, John Kramer >>> <jkra...@iafrica.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I think I know what Joe is getting at?.and I >>>> agree with him, if I understand him correctly. >>>> When he refers to ?noise floor? >>>> he means that he loses averaging when he >>>> tunes, resulting in the crazy spectrum display >>>> (what Joe refers to as noise). >>>> >>>> I haven?t seen or used a P3, but I bought my >>>> first Elecraft products 3 weeks ago - a KX3 >>>> and PX3. If the P3 behaves in the >>>> same manner as the PX3 then I can see what Joe >>>> is complaining about. Right out the box my PX3 >>>> had this frustrating >>>> feature of losing averaging the moment you >>>> spun the VFO on the KX3. I pointed this out to >>>> a local KX3/PX3 owner, and >>>> he told me to download the latest firmware >>>> which allows you to select ?fixed mode? or >>>> ?fixed track?. I downloaded the >>>> firmware. YES, it kinda fixes the problem?.you >>>> can now tune the radio and KEEP the >>>> averaging?.but the problem is >>>> that now your receive filter goes down the >>>> display as you tune. This is better than the >>>> previous method, however >>>> you now have your receive filter heavily >>>> offset from the centre of the display. You >>>> might tune down the band, with your >>>> RX filter at the bottom of the scale, and you >>>> are now unable to see much below, but you can >>>> see a huge chunk of >>>> the band above you. >>>> >>>> I bought the KX3 and PX3 for portable ops. My >>>> main rigs for the past 5 years are Flex rigs. >>>> I have the 5000/3000/1500 >>>> and will be getting a 6500 soon as my shack >>>> rigs. With these rigs and PSDR, your RX filter >>>> REMAINS CENTRED and when >>>> you tune around the band, you DON?T LOSE your >>>> averaging. This is how I like it to be, and if >>>> Elecraft can achieve this >>>> in a firmware update, I would be very happy. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> John, ZS5J > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:44:57 -0000 >From: "Thaire Bryant" <w2...@myfairpoint.net> >To: <qr...@mailman.qth.net>, <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>, > <g...@yahoogroups.com>, <coll...@listserve.com> >Subject: [Elecraft] Australia trip >Message-ID: <003a01d0cba7$dc415330$94c3f990$@myfairpoint.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I will be traveling in and near Australia for the month of August and plan >to operate /p and /mm with a KX3. > >My dates and locations are below. I would appreciate hearing of any Radio >related events (club meetings, > >boot sales, flea markets, etc) that I might be able to attend. Thanks in >advance for any info provided. > > > >August 4-9 Sydney > >August 9-11 Cairns > >August 11-14 Ayers Rock > >August 14 Alice Springs > >August 15 Perth > >August 16-30 /mm as C6APF region 3 NW of Australia and near 4W and YB. > > > >73 es TU > > > >Thaire W2APF > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:04:49 -0700 >From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <e...@elecraft.com> >To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: [Elecraft] Hi Res K3S+P3 Studio Picture (1920x1080) available > for download >Message-ID: <55bb9ca1.7000...@elecraft.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >A cool new 1920x1080 high-res studio picture of the K3S with P3 available for >download. > >Its perfect for use on hi-res desktop monitors for wallpaper backgrounds etc. >and can be easily resized for others. Its the same picture (but in higher >res) >as the new K3S picture we have just added to our main web page at >http://elecraft.com > >A link to it this high-res version will be up on our K3S product web page >shortly, but I've also included a temporary direct link here that will be it >available for the next week or two. (When you go this link, click on >"Download" >to get the larger full resolution version. > >https://elecraft.egnyte.com/dl/0EtirEAPf9/k3s_wallpaper.jpg_ > >73, >Eric >/elecraft.com/ > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:04:28 -0500 >From: "Terry Schieler" <w...@swbell.net> >To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: [Elecraft] (K3S) Transferring configuration from K3 >Message-ID: <005901d0cbaa$94a9f6f0$bdfde4d0$@net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Elecraft has advised me that my new K3S will be shipping in several days. I >believe I recall some comments here regarding saving my current K3 >configuration to the K3 Utility in order to transfer it to the new K3S. Seems >like the suggestion some time back was to change the serial number in the K3 >configuration to the serial number of the new K3S then upload that saved >configuration to the K3S. That seems straight forward enough. But wasn't >there some kind of disclaimer comment regarding what would and would not >transfer. Can anyone please clarify this for me. Thanks. > >73, > >Terry, W0FM > >------------------------------ > >Message: 11 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:09:41 +0200 >From: John Kramer <jkra...@iafrica.com> >To: Phil Wheeler <w...@socal.rr.com> >Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <4f5a827e-4c4e-4ea6-88fb-034828a68...@iafrica.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Phil > >So?.you?re okay using ?fixed tune? where your VFO window moves off-centre, and >heads off >towards the edge of the screen - at this point you can?t see whats ahead of >you because you?re >near the edge of the pan adapter. If you go any further, you fall off the >edge, and it plonks you back >in the centre, the waterfall refreshes, and you lose your waterfall history. >That?s okay ? > >Wouldn?t it be better if your VFO window remained centred in the pan adapter, >even if you tuned up >the band ? so you can see equally whats going on above and below your >frequency ? Yes, you can >do that in tracking mode?but then we get back to the issue of it resetting and >removing the >averaging feature. >If you haven?t tried an SDR radio that can do both - ?fixed" and ?tracking" at >the same time, perhaps >you should try, and see what you?re missing out on. If the clever guys at >Elecraft can come up with >a firmware update that will allow you to do both?simultaneously, would you >choose to rather have your >VFO window jump off the edge every time you get to the end, as in ?fixed tune? >? Perhaps they could >give us a menu choice of all three options - ?fixed tune?, ?tracking? and >?fixed tracking?. Would you stifle >the opportunity of having this menu choice ? > >I better stop, I?m starting to feel like I?m repeating myself :-) Have a good >weekend fella?s. > >73 >John > > > > > > > >On 31 Jul 2015, at 5:36 PM, Phil Wheeler <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote: > >I agree with Joe. My usage of the P3 and the PX3 is 100% fixed-tune mode, and >I find both the P3 and PX3 to work very well for me. They do differ in >amplitude scale in A-B comparisons, but this is compensated for by scale >adjustments. > >I've never really found a situation where Tracking mode is helpful, but maybe >I'm missing something. > >73, Phil W7OX > >On 7/31/15 8:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >>> It?s difficult to see a station, and find where you are trying to >>> tune to, when the display loses itsaveraging. >> >> As a long time user of the P3, I strenuously disagree with that >> assessment. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2015-07-31 9:57 AM, John Kramer wrote: >>> Wayne >>> >>> Apologies, I have never seen a P3 in action before, I live too far away >>> from locations >>> that have regular hamfests. Maybe I should go and watch some youtube clips. >>> I just thought the basic architecture in the P3 would be the same as my >>> PX3. >>> But, reading your last two paragraphs, tells me the issue I have with my PX3 >>> also happens on the P3 - In tracking mode averaging info is reset the moment >>> you tune. I find this loss of averaging when tuning, to be totally counter >>> intuitive when trying to home in on a signal. It?s difficult to see a >>> station, >>> and find where you are trying to tune to, when the display loses its >>> averaging. >>> >>> Thanks for the good work at Elecraft, and your quick response >>> >>> 73 >>> John, ZS5J C91J A25J >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 12 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:59:22 +0530 >From: Deepak VU2CDP <vu2...@gmail.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] KPA presents high SWR to rig >Message-ID: > <CADiSzvzQ-9i-rnZo7=7famsokbj56b+p_ud2oxv_acqcwc5...@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hi all, > >Using KPA-500 with an FT 2k. All was well until last weekend when suddenly >the rig shows high SWR when i put the amp in OPER mode. The SWR checks out >fine on the rig's in-built meter when the amp is in STBY mode. But cannot >get the rig to key the amp as the needle on the rig's meter swings wildly >to the right the moment i put the amp in Operate. > >I saw a couple of posts in the archives similar to mine but could't find >any solutions from them. Can anyone help in identifying the cause of such >behaviour and the fix? > >73, >Deepak VU2CDP > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 13 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:35:11 -0700 >From: Al Sather <apsat...@shaw.ca> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday trailer >Message-ID: <55bba3bf.4070...@shaw.ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >Greetings > >I know this is a bit of topic but I this this list has the expertise to >give me good answers. > >My station is a KX3-KXPA100 with a PX3. I have a quiet, to me, 30 amp >switching power and a 2000 watt Honda generator that generates some, but >not objectionable noise. The NB on the KX3 clears that up totally. I >also have a 20 amp liner Astron power supply but it is heavy, bulky for >use in a small trailer. And, it may be light for running an amp. >I course I do not need to run it at 100 watts, either. > >I am trying to decide if it best to operate from the trailer's AC or >directly from the batteries. >And, if I use the batteries alone are there precautions I need to take. > >Of course, if available I would use "shore power". The AC from the >trailer seems to be adequate when running with or without "shore power" >or with my generator. > >I guess my real concern is the issue of using DC directly, and what >should happen for protecton between my batteries and station. > >73, Al ve7ear > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 14 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:51:39 -0700 >From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <55bba79b.2050...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >On Fri,7/31/2015 6:08 AM, Joe Word wrote: >> 1. I am using Tracking mode and have Averaging set at 14. I want to see the >> SSB pattern smoothly and not like an O'scope. I always slow the pattern >> down to see clearly the transmitted bandwidth and treble/bass balance. > >So your primary interest is the quality of the other guy's signal? > >> 2. I do not use Fixed mode, If I am tuning up the band I want to see whats >> ahead, in Fixed mode you can not. But the scope pattern stays '"clean" in >> Fixed mode, I wish it stayed "clean" in Tracking mode. When I say "clean" I >> mean Averaging does not revert back to 0 while tuning. > >What you want is not possible -- Averaging is working on the IF signal. >We can choose to always center it, or tune across it. When we tune in >Tracking Mode, it MUST begin averaging again. > >Suggestion: If you have not already done so, assign several Span widths >and functions to the soft F-keys: What I find useful are 2 kHz, 10 kHz, >20 kHz, 60 kHz, 100 kHz, 200 kHz, Peak (Toggle On/Off), Fixed (Toggle >On/Off). Once you've done this, try looking a bit wider as you tune. You >may find that you can see things (like stations splattering). > >The P3 is a VERY versatile instrument. It's worth studying the Operating >Manual to see all of the tools available. If you know what you're doing, >it's possible to make some high precision, calibrated measurements. > >73, Jim K9YC > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 15 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:01:29 -0700 (MST) >From: Bob N3MNT <b...@hogbytes.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday > trailer >Message-ID: <1438362089254-7605602.p...@n2.nabble.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >I have run the exact same configuration from the TT battery with no issue. >Pull power directly from the battery with both legs ( 12V and gnd) fused. I >generally run about 40W as I have had little need to run more. You will >need to monitor battery voltage so as not to pull the battery too low. I >have not run from battery with power to the trailer as I expect some noise >from the convertor. If I have shore power, I run from my switching supply. > > > >-- >View this message in context: >http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-Running-a-KX3-station-from-a-holiday-trailer-tp7605600p7605602.html >Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 16 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:07:46 -0700 >From: Al Sather <apsat...@shaw.ca> >To: Bill <k4...@nfarl.org>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday > trailer >Message-ID: <55bbab62.2080...@shaw.ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >I should also add that I have approximately a 10 foot run of #8 wire >running from the batteries to the inside of the trailer, hoping I would >not have a significant voltage drop. This will terminate with a PP >distribution block. Total wire run should be less than 16 feet and >closer to 12 feet. >Al > >On 7/31/2015 9:49 AM, Bill wrote: >> The issue from running direct to battery is voltage drop to your >> KX100. You need 13.8v minimum to get full power out of the KX100. I >> run my KX3 and 857D out of a class B Sprinter and have had to resort >> to a power supply run from shore power (or my Honda 2KW) generator to >> get really clean power at adequate voltage levels. I have a direct >> line from my PP distribution block to my batteries, but the batteries >> will not power either rig at full output power. >> >> Bill k4yjj >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Al Sather <apsat...@shaw.ca >> <mailto:apsat...@shaw.ca>> wrote: >> >> Greetings >> >> I know this is a bit of topic but I this this list has the >> expertise to give me good answers. >> >> My station is a KX3-KXPA100 with a PX3. I have a quiet, to me, 30 >> amp switching power and a 2000 watt Honda generator that generates >> some, but not objectionable noise. The NB on the KX3 clears that >> up totally. I also have a 20 amp liner Astron power supply but it >> is heavy, bulky for use in a small trailer. And, it may be light >> for running an amp. >> I course I do not need to run it at 100 watts, either. >> >> I am trying to decide if it best to operate from the trailer's AC >> or directly from the batteries. >> And, if I use the batteries alone are there precautions I need to >> take. >> >> Of course, if available I would use "shore power". The AC from the >> trailer seems to be adequate when running with or without "shore >> power" or with my generator. >> >> I guess my real concern is the issue of using DC directly, and >> what should happen for protecton between my batteries and station. >> >> 73, Al ve7ear >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to bcobb...@gmail.com <mailto:bcobb...@gmail.com> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >> Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4392/10345 - Release Date: 07/31/15 >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 17 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:07:56 -0400 >From: "W4CCS" <w4...@w4ccs.com> >To: "'Dr. William J. Schmidt, II'" <b...@wjschmidt.com> >Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX mon >Message-ID: <04a301d0cbb3$72146c70$563d4550$@W4CCS.COM> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >Yes, the full scale is adjustable to 200 w, 700w, 1200w, and 2000w.. Maybe a >future firmware update will include an Auto option that will select whatever >power level it sees like most power meters have. I have mine set to 2000w >because I run a Command tech amp on 6m, but when I?m running the K3 by >itself, the bar display is very low.. However, the digital readout indicates >the correct power. > > > >CCS > > > >From: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II [mailto:b...@wjschmidt.com] >Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 10:50 AM >To: W4CCS >Cc: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX mon > > > >Interesting. I wondered how this worked. My P3TXMON was shipped this week so >ill get to play with it soon, but one would think the scale would be >adjustable so that whatever power is seen, you could make that the full scale. >This is just a scaling issue. Otherwise running the KPA500 with the 2000 watt >sensor will only use one-quarter of the scale. Obviously the digital display >still works right because no scaling is involved. > > > >Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ > > > >Owner - Operator > >Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC > >Staunton, Illinois > > > >Owner ? Operator > >Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ > >Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. > >Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com > > > >email: b...@wjschmidt.com > > > > >On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:29 AM, W4CCS <w4...@w4ccs.com> wrote: > >Received the P3 TXMON option yesterday.. Took about 10 minutes to install >and works flawless.. THANKS Elecraft..!! > > > >The only drawback I see is the lack of the option to set full scale at 1500 >watts and not 2000 watts.. Just a personal preference But all is good.. > > > >Clyde Scott - W4CCS > >Moultrie, GA - EM81cg > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to b...@wjschmidt.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 18 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:16:16 -0700 >From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Running a KX3 station from a holiday > trailer >Message-ID: <55bbad60.5000...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >On Fri,7/31/2015 9:35 AM, Al Sather wrote: >> Greetings >> >> I know this is a bit of topic but I this this list has the expertise >> to give me good answers. >> >> My station is a KX3-KXPA100 with a PX3. I have a quiet, to me, 30 amp >> switching power and a 2000 watt Honda generator that generates some, >> but not objectionable noise. > >Great generator, lots of them in our club. There's a fix for the noise. > >http://nccc.cc/pdf/CQP-RFI2013-2.pdf addresses this and a lot of other >noise sources. > > >> The NB on the KX3 clears that up totally. I also have a 20 amp liner >> Astron power supply but it is heavy, bulky for use in a small trailer. >> And, it may be light for running an amp. >> I course I do not need to run it at 100 watts, either. >> >> I am trying to decide if it best to operate from the trailer's AC or >> directly from the batteries. >> And, if I use the batteries alone are there precautions I need to take. >> Of course, if available I would use "shore power". The AC from the >> trailer seems to be adequate when running with or without "shore >> power" or with my generator. >> >> I guess my real concern is the issue of using DC directly, and what >> should happen for protecton between my batteries and station. > >Since 2004, I've been running all my gear on big 12V deep discharge >batteries that I "float charge" with a regulated supply set for about 14 >VDC. > > I've never found the need for any protection in line with the gear. We >do the same on FD, except that we use solar panels to charge the battery. > >One thing I have run into with a K3 running from the 12V system in my >2006 Toyota Sequoia (big SUV). I was operating 6M with the motor off, >and decided to start it. That somehow interrupted power to the K3 for a >few seconds, which caused a microprocessor to lose its place. To get it >going, I had to remove it from the 12V line and let it sit for a while >(10-15 minutes). > >The K3 doesn't like its power to be interrupted. The root cause of the >problem is that when you turn a K3 off using the front panel, it writes >its current operating conditions to RAM. When you interrupt power with >the K3 running, it can't do that. > >I don't know how this might relate to the KX3. > >73, Jim K9YC > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 19 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:27:33 +0000 (UTC) >From: Patrick Taylor via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Suite for Sale >Message-ID: > <1583059846.6653799.1438363653314.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >I just ordered a K3s so I?want to sell my KX3 (fully loaded with all options >including 2 m,MH3 mike, ant tuner, etc.). Also PX3 and KXPA100 (with ant >tuner). Prefer sales in Metro Philly area, but will consider shipping. Please >contact W3HVG off list. > >------------------------------ > >Message: 20 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:40:51 -0700 >From: Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> >To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 vs SDR-IQ >Message-ID: <70b06fc6-d87e-4521-9b03-c8e01899b...@wunderwood.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >On Jul 31, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote: > >> What you want is not possible -- Averaging is working on the IF signal. We >> can choose to always center it, or tune across it. When we tune in Tracking >> Mode, it MUST begin averaging again. > > >Not quite impossible. > >It could keep the averaging for the portion of the spectrum that was >displayed, and start new for the newly-displayed portion. Why throw away good >data? > >Or, it could overscan and keep averaging for an invisible area beyond the edge >of the display, then roll that into view as needed. > >Obviously, with either one, if you tune too fast, you get into an area with no >averaging data. > >I?m really surprised that this is a new idea. The first time I used a >bandscope, on an IC-756, I found the loss of averaging to be obviously broken >with a straightforward fix. > >wunder >K6WRU >CM87wj >http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 21 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:46:06 -0400 >From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> >To: Deepak VU2CDP <vu2...@gmail.com> >Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA presents high SWR to rig >Message-ID: > <canckpc1jdasputvwjwgb2nq8arrak+tidgp_aaj2nxwryzo...@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Are you switching in the KPA500 with the transceiver in TX and key down and >power output? That will destroy relay contacts in the KPA500. > >73, Guy K2AV > >On Friday, July 31, 2015, Deepak VU2CDP <vu2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Using KPA-500 with an FT 2k. All was well until last weekend when suddenly >> the rig shows high SWR when i put the amp in OPER mode. The SWR checks out >> fine on the rig's in-built meter when the amp is in STBY mode. But cannot >> get the rig to key the amp as the needle on the rig's meter swings wildly >> to the right the moment i put the amp in Operate. >> >> I saw a couple of posts in the archives similar to mine but could't find >> any solutions from them. Can anyone help in identifying the cause of such >> behaviour and the fix? >> >> 73, >> Deepak VU2CDP >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2av....@gmail.com <javascript:;> >> > > >-- >Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 22 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:53:59 -0500 >From: Phil Anderson <aldenmcduf...@sunflower.com> >To: Thaire Bryant <w2...@myfairpoint.net> >Cc: coll...@listserve.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net, > qr...@mailman.qth.net, g...@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Australia trip >Message-ID: <55bbb637.5020...@sunflower.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >Thaire, > >After Australia............consider going way north and DX from Svalbard >near the Artic Circle. > >73, w0xi >> Thaire Bryant <mailto:w2...@myfairpoint.net> >> Friday, July 31, 2015 10:44 AM >> I will be traveling in and near Australia > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >http://www.avast.com > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 23 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:55:19 -0400 >From: Kevin Cozens <ke...@ve3syb.ca> >To: K2 <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Incremental build /design suggestions? >Message-ID: <55bbb687.8080...@ve3syb.ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >On 15-07-31 09:15 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: >> I'm shooting for the cheapest setup that will be functional at the start and >> then add on as I go. Trying to get the order of importance down. >> >> >> >> Thoughts: >> >> 1. Base K3S 10w - stay CW mostly due to lower power. >> >> 2. Upgrade to 100w >[snip] >> 9. Antenna tuner > >I took a quick look at the K3S info. If you are going to upgrade to 100W I >would think the K3A antenna tuner would be an item you might want as entry >number 3 on the list. > >-- >Cheers! > >Kevin. > >http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract >Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're > | powerful!" >#include <disclaimer/favourite> | --Chris Hardwick > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 24 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:30:55 +0530 >From: Deepak VU2CDP <vu2...@gmail.com> >To: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> >Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA presents high SWR to rig >Message-ID: > <cadiszvxpxviaaoxvr6vhjdxpkpdfbt7yxtrh9aqbqbfajkd...@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hello Guy, > >No, i would never do that! :-) > >A friend told me that it may be the PIN diode, probably blown by static >discharge while swapping antennas. But he wasn't sure. I intend to do some >diagnosis tomorrow afternoon when i should have some free time. > >73, >Deepak VU2CDP > >PS: this one was put through the grind right after assembly in an >expedition (VU4KV) and has never given any problems until now. > >On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> Are you switching in the KPA500 with the transceiver in TX and key down >> and power output? That will destroy relay contacts in the KPA500. >> >> 73, Guy K2AV >> >> >> On Friday, July 31, 2015, Deepak VU2CDP <vu2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Using KPA-500 with an FT 2k. All was well until last weekend when suddenly >>> the rig shows high SWR when i put the amp in OPER mode. The SWR checks out >>> fine on the rig's in-built meter when the amp is in STBY mode. But cannot >>> get the rig to key the amp as the needle on the rig's meter swings wildly >>> to the right the moment i put the amp in Operate. >>> >>> I saw a couple of posts in the archives similar to mine but could't find >>> any solutions from them. Can anyone help in identifying the cause of such >>> behaviour and the fix? >>> >>> 73, >>> Deepak VU2CDP >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k2av....@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone >> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 25 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:13:29 -0500 >From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Incremental build /design suggestions? >Message-ID: <55bbbac9.7020...@blomand.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Here's my basic configuration which is on order at present: > >Item Ref. Price ea. Qty. Description > >K3S/100-F $2899.95 1 K3S 100W Xcvr. (Assembled) >KAT3A-F $369.95 1 K3S ATU (Fact. Installed) >KFL3A-1.8K $139.95 1 K3 1.8 kHz, 8 pole filter >KFL3A-500 $89.95 1 K3 500 Hz, 5 pole filter >KTCXO3-1 $119.95 1 K3S TCXO (0.5ppm) > >There's lots of room and options to "add on" later. > >73 Bob, K4TAX > > >On 7/31/2015 12:55 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote: >> On 15-07-31 09:15 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: >>> I'm shooting for the cheapest setup that will be functional at the >>> start and >>> then add on as I go. Trying to get the order of importance down. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thoughts: >>> >>> 1. Base K3S 10w - stay CW mostly due to lower power. >>> >>> 2. Upgrade to 100w >> [snip] >>> 9. Antenna tuner >> >> I took a quick look at the K3S info. If you are going to upgrade to >> 100W I would think the K3A antenna tuner would be an item you might >> want as entry number 3 on the list. >> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 26 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:17:04 -0700 >From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Incremental build /design suggestions? >Message-ID: <55bbbba0.1080...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >On Fri,7/31/2015 6:15 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: >> My primary focus is DX and I'm trying to juggle priorities (cash) to build >> my station. >> >> I'm upgrading from a YAESU FT-897D which works ok but doesn't deal with >> noise/band noise well. >> >> The intended end result will be K3S, Panadapter, Amplifier, External Antenna >> Tuner. The K3S will have the sub receiver, cw filters, ssb filters, data >> mode filter. > >I'm going offer a very different suggestion. For the cost of a 10W K3S, >you can probably buy a fairly loaded used 100W K3 with 100W tuner and >other accessories. Another $220 gets you the new K3SYNA board, which is >about 90% of the improvement offered by the new K3S. You'll also want >the KXV3B module, which includes a very nice preamp that improves >performance on 10M and 6M. Both are easy to add. Now that 10M is dead >most of the time and 6M E-skip season is nearly over, you won't need >that preamp for a while. :) > >I'm speaking from experience -- I've done exactly those upgrades to my >K3s, and have no plans to trade up to a K3S. You will find it a HUGE >upgrade from your 897. > >73, Jim K9YC > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 27 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:43:03 -0400 >From: Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> >To: ae...@carolinaheli.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Incremental build /design suggestions? >Message-ID: <55bbc1b7.90...@embarqmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Jer, > >Your list is OK -- unless -- if your goal is to minimize dis-assembly >when adding the items later in your list, then decide on the filters for >the main receiver before adding the subRX. The subRX must be removed to >add filters to the main board. > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 7/31/2015 9:15 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: >> >> Thoughts: >> >> 1. Base K3S 10w - stay CW mostly due to lower power. >> >> 2. Upgrade to 100w >> >> 3. Add sub receiver >> >> 4. Add better receive only antennas, vertical loop array or such. >> >> 5. Add filters to receiver and subreceiver >> >> 6. Add Panadapter >> >> 7. Add additional filters if needed ? >> >> 8. Add amplifier (if I can hear it I want to be able to work it). >> >> 9. Antenna tuner >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> I'd really love to just walk in and buy a fully stuffed setup at the start >> but I like to pay cash. >> >> >> >> Jer / AE4PB >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Subject: Digest Footer > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >You must be a subscriber to post. >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > >------------------------------ > >End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 135, Issue 40 >***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
